Tokyo Olympics 2020
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:12 pm
Hey, guess which country is in trouble with W.A.D.A. and may "face Tokyo Olympics ban?"
It's the sixth version of The Swamp. What could possibly go wrong?
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I did a search before launching the thread!rass wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:30 pm The prior thread title was sublime enough that I'm calling foul here.
Frigging space bar.Pruitt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:49 pmI did a search before launching the thread!rass wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:30 pm The prior thread title was sublime enough that I'm calling foul here.
Russia is probably somewhat unique in terms of the level of state involvement in doping but it’s likely an issue with pretty much every international sports power and major sport. The US had Balco and Lance Armstrong; Spain had Dr. Fuentes; Britain all its issues with Team Sky; the list goes on and on. The extent to which athletes get away with “legal” doping through unneeded prescriptions and Therapeutic Use Exemptions is also pretty remarkable.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:00 pm After watching Icarus on Netflix a few years back, I have a tough time taking any of this stuff seriously.
Many moons ago, SNL had a skit where it was basically take any drug you want Olympics. Dude doing a deadlift tore his arms off... ha ha.
At this point, at least in certain countries, that's where we're at.
Joe K wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:25 pmRussia is probably somewhat unique in terms of the level of state involvement in doping but it’s likely an issue with pretty much every international sports power and major sport. The US had Balco and Lance Armstrong; Spain had Dr. Fuentes; Britain all its issues with Team Sky; the list goes on and on. The extent to which athletes get away with “legal” doping through unneeded prescriptions and Therapeutic Use Exemptions is also pretty remarkable.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:00 pm After watching Icarus on Netflix a few years back, I have a tough time taking any of this stuff seriously.
Many moons ago, SNL had a skit where it was basically take any drug you want Olympics. Dude doing a deadlift tore his arms off... ha ha.
At this point, at least in certain countries, that's where we're at.
Back to the days of East Germany as an Olympic powerhouse.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:43 pmJoe K wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:25 pmRussia is probably somewhat unique in terms of the level of state involvement in doping but it’s likely an issue with pretty much every international sports power and major sport. The US had Balco and Lance Armstrong; Spain had Dr. Fuentes; Britain all its issues with Team Sky; the list goes on and on. The extent to which athletes get away with “legal” doping through unneeded prescriptions and Therapeutic Use Exemptions is also pretty remarkable.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:00 pm After watching Icarus on Netflix a few years back, I have a tough time taking any of this stuff seriously.
Many moons ago, SNL had a skit where it was basically take any drug you want Olympics. Dude doing a deadlift tore his arms off... ha ha.
At this point, at least in certain countries, that's where we're at.
It's not even close, though. And, importantly, a lot of what you're pointing our are TEAMS that promoted doping, not countries, wholesale.
The scale of the doping practices in Russia and probably China are off the charts compared to other nations. There's no equivalency.
Track is so f-ing filthy, I don't know how anyone can watch it.
I’d say do 2022. They did Winter Games two years apart in 1992-94. They can do Summer Games in 2022-24.SportsDoc wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:46 am So, if Japan cancels, are there other options?
IE:
Move location but have Olympics in 2021 elsewhere.
Keep in Japan but move again to 2022.
Cancel completely and prepare for 2024.
It seems from reports it's cancel, but that seems so wrong for the athletes, who's window for competition is very short. Have somewhere else in 2021 seems unlikely. Who could get venues up and running that quickly. Move to 2022 seems a nice compromise, yet Japan already looking at 2032.
That's a really good idea. It doesn't really even affect NBC because it's not like they move cameras from one venue to another between events. Although I suppose they may do that for certain events that finish before other start.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am there also seems to be a good opportunity here to have a worldwide games if necessary. having the different sports stationed across the globe could help with infrastructure concerns and prevent so many people from gathering in one place. it's already to the point that fan travel is pretty much not happening
I'd think that NBC and Sky (or whomever has the rights in England and other bigger European countries) could easily do a technology share to make sure everything is adequately covered with cameras? seems like it could be done. also, more locations = more opportunities to spread out. the olympic village needs to peace out for this cycle. RIP condom usage stories.A_B wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:02 amThat's a really good idea. It doesn't really even affect NBC because it's not like they move cameras from one venue to another between events. Although I suppose they may do that for certain events that finish before other start.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am there also seems to be a good opportunity here to have a worldwide games if necessary. having the different sports stationed across the globe could help with infrastructure concerns and prevent so many people from gathering in one place. it's already to the point that fan travel is pretty much not happening
Yeah, the easiest route, technologically speaking, would be a division of labor where Network A covers one location in its entirety, Network B another, and so on. However, when you get into which stories each network wants to tell and how to cover them, it gets a lot more complicated. The way NBC focuses their storytelling on American athletes (and understandably so) would put extra stresses on the resources, budgets, personnel, etc. of the partner networks.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:10 amI'd think that NBC and Sky (or whomever has the rights in England and other bigger European countries) could easily do a technology share to make sure everything is adequately covered with cameras? seems like it could be done. also, more locations = more opportunities to spread out. the olympic village needs to peace out for this cycle. RIP condom usage stories.A_B wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:02 amThat's a really good idea. It doesn't really even affect NBC because it's not like they move cameras from one venue to another between events. Although I suppose they may do that for certain events that finish before other start.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am there also seems to be a good opportunity here to have a worldwide games if necessary. having the different sports stationed across the globe could help with infrastructure concerns and prevent so many people from gathering in one place. it's already to the point that fan travel is pretty much not happening
The Olympics is a massive money-maker for NBC because they advertise their own upcoming products so heavily, they would happily accept any version of the games they would get. The games itself is a loss-leader, something the network loses money on to get you to watch their other programming.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:19 pm that's a great point -- but I also wonder how much of that has been/will be affected by COVID. Zoom was going to be a major factor in the features they do already. Is having to adapt further a bigger deal than the efficiency of having games vs. not having games at all if it came to that?
AKA the 'Rulon Gardner' effect...DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:49 pm
However, any time someone "comes out of nowhere" to contend in an event and becomes an instant story that requires a profile, it gets tougher. Even a Zoom is made a little harder due to time zone differences in these cases.
And then it really was time to write. It was impossible. We had too much stuff. We had too much GREAT stuff. This guy was like a character out of Yankee Doodle Dandy. It couldn’t be real. Chuck and I were laughing and trying to write and laughing more … never had a story like it in our lives. People often ask me how I handle writer’s block — well knock on wood, thank my lucky stars, I’ve never had it. My thought about writer’s block is basically that my Dad worked in a factory almost his whole life, and he never had “factory block.” Sometimes the words don’t come as easily as others, but you do what you have to do.
But this wasn’t writer’s block. This was a writer’s overdose. I had no idea how to sum up a Wyoming farm boy who wrestled cows in a small town where a disc jockey reads the morning birthdays near Wilford Brimley’s fishing pond and grew up to defeat the indestructible Russian in perhaps the greatest Olympic upset going back to the days when Greeks ran naked through the …
Bit late to this party butDSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:34 amYeah, the easiest route, technologically speaking, would be a division of labor where Network A covers one location in its entirety, Network B another, and so on. However, when you get into which stories each network wants to tell and how to cover them, it gets a lot more complicated. The way NBC focuses their storytelling on American athletes (and understandably so) would put extra stresses on the resources, budgets, personnel, etc. of the partner networks.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:10 amI'd think that NBC and Sky (or whomever has the rights in England and other bigger European countries) could easily do a technology share to make sure everything is adequately covered with cameras? seems like it could be done. also, more locations = more opportunities to spread out. the olympic village needs to peace out for this cycle. RIP condom usage stories.A_B wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:02 amThat's a really good idea. It doesn't really even affect NBC because it's not like they move cameras from one venue to another between events. Although I suppose they may do that for certain events that finish before other start.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am there also seems to be a good opportunity here to have a worldwide games if necessary. having the different sports stationed across the globe could help with infrastructure concerns and prevent so many people from gathering in one place. it's already to the point that fan travel is pretty much not happening
TV for the Olympics is not easy, in large part because in the US, it's not about showing sports to hardcore fans. It's drawing in casual fans with human interest stories.wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:51 am* TV is easy. Most international sports leverage a world feed model anyway. Anyone who has watched world cup or other FIFA events in the US knows it because the commentators get a replay that does not match what they are talking about. But all of the runs, events, etc are fully covered. And since olympic coverage is replayed/timed from prime time editing is pretty easy.
* Story telling..they will figure it out.
* The big loss is the Opening and closing ceremonies. That is a ratings hit for the NBC..but I don't get the love of seeing teams march into a stadium and an extended superbowl halftime show/interpretive dance performance. But guess some feel the need to see the shirtless Samoan and overpriced Polo/Roots gear that the USOC and similar get paid to trot the athletes around in.
For 3 hours? When I was a kid, I thought it was cool seeing all the different flags and I loved the pageantry of it all. Now, it's just a bunch of kids walking in a circle on a track waving on a loop for 3 hours.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:34 amThat's one of my favorite parts. That's what separates the Olympics from just a bunch of guys running on a track or playing handball.