Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part IV - Welcome to Stupid Watergate

[DaveInSeattle]

Of course Trump wrote it. There is absolutely no way Mary Louise Kelly, who in has a Masters in European Studies from fucking Cambridge, would point to Bangladesh and say it’s Ukraine. Of course those shitbag Trump would believe him.

Not counting countries he has properties in, how many countries do you think Trump can point out in a map with just outlines? I say 20. Maybe.

I'll take the under. The WAY under...

[L-Jam3]

Canada, Mexico, Brazil, UK, Italy, Japan, China, Australia.

Maybe France, Spain, Ireland, Cuba, North and South Korea.

Couple that with Saudi Arabia and Russia where he has properties.

Jesus. We have a President that can find at most 17 countries on a map. Who thought it was a good idea electing a fucking moron for President?

[degenerasian]

I'm not sure he could even find those countries on a map, he just gets flown there.

[Johnnie]

Always good when you can just hit 'record' around the president.

[The Sybian]

Always good when you can just hit 'record' around the president.

Heard an interesting story from Nancy Pelosi's daughter. She is a documentary film producer. She was in the White House filming something about the living Presidents. Trump was demanding water, and nobody got it for him, so she reached into her purse and handed him a bottle of water. She was saying the WH is so absent of protocol, Trump took the bottle and drank it, nobody stopped him. She was saying she has been around several Presidents, and it was unthinkable that any of them could take a bottle of water from anyone and drink it. Not to mention Omarossa and others recording video in the Situation Room, where electronics are forbidden. Fuck, he openly discusses classified information in the Mara Lago dining room.

[Johnnie]

I hate living in a world where that's just an unfathomable, accepted truth and simultaneously I can be reprimanded if I don't make my email correspondence FOUO despite it being unclassified.

Like, I posted a couple photos of my on Instagram from my deployed location and I asked a couple people "does this look like it gives away anything?" Consensus was no, so I posted.

[Johnnie]

Ah, so John Bolton wants to get paid via a book deal in order to tell the truth. I see you there, Mr. Mustache.

[Ryan]

Conspiracy theory me says the GOP has been looking for a way to save face by finding him somewhat guilty but only at the hands of a fellow patriotic Republican

[tennbengal]

[tennbengal]

Here's one. Need three more.

[Pruitt]

Here's one. Need three more.

I have a shiny loony that says he backs off.

[mister d]

Or he's already gotten assurance this is one he and one other can safely take without swinging the vote.

[tennbengal]

Or he's already gotten assurance this is one he and one other can safely take without swinging the vote.

That’s more likely.

But the Bolton thing does throw a small wrench into their plan I would guess.

[Johnnie]

Fucking A, man. Republicans stick together.

It takes only 4 of those fuckers to oust McConnell as leader. But yet they circle the wagons no matter what.

[Steve of phpBB]

Or he's already gotten assurance this is one he and one other can safely take without swinging the vote.

That’s more likely.

But the Bolton thing does throw a small wrench into their plan I would guess.

This Bolton thing is nuts. But damn, the timing of the leak really makes it look like a Deep State conspiracy.

[Pruitt]

This Bolton thing is nuts. But damn, the timing of the leak really makes it look like a Deep State conspiracy.

[P.D.X.]

Or he's already gotten assurance this is one he and one other can safely take without swinging the vote.

That’s more likely.

But the Bolton thing does throw a small wrench into their plan I would guess.

This Bolton thing is nuts. But damn, the timing of the leak really makes it look like a Deep State conspiracy.

Or someone has a book coming out.

[Steve of phpBB]

Or he's already gotten assurance this is one he and one other can safely take without swinging the vote.

That’s more likely.

But the Bolton thing does throw a small wrench into their plan I would guess.

This Bolton thing is nuts. But damn, the timing of the leak really makes it look like a Deep State conspiracy.

Or someone has a book coming out.

Yeah but he's had the book coming out for a while. Either Bolton's people or someone in the government decided to leak this yesterday, in the middle of the defense arguments, or the press was aware of it earlier and just decided to report it yesterday in the middle of defense arguments.

[mister d]

Either Bolton's people or someone in the government decided to leak this yesterday, in the middle of the defense arguments ...

Isn't this just marketing?

[The Sybian]

Scanning the clip aggregating sites today is fun. The FoxNews spin is tremendous. Several pundits/hosts calling Bolton a radical Leftist, "another Swamp Liberal," and a tool of the Left. Yeah, John Fucking Bolton has secretly been a Liberal all of these years, just lying in wait forcing the most extremist Right Wing warmongering policies for decades, waiting for that moment to drop one tidbit about Trump. About as likely as the radical Muslims in Kenya planting Obama's birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser in 1961 in case he became President one day. But, it doesn't matter, because the mouth breathers will believe anything. Greg Gutfeld declared the Bolton leak somehow vindicates Trump, then in the same sentence says we have no idea what the Bolton leak actually says, because nobody has seen it.

[The Sybian]

Wow, this is just painful. Don't read the conversations. FFS.

[Johnnie]

That just makes my blood boil.

But here's the thing. The military will not have a sham trial the way the Senate will. A court martial is a military trial, not the punishment. Even if he gets court martialed, they have to prove he did something wrong. And this trial doesn't take place in a civilian court. Shows what these people know about the military.

[The Sybian]

That just makes my blood boil.

But here's the thing. The military will not have a sham trial the way the Senate will. A court martial is a military trial, not the punishment. Even if he gets court martialed, they have to prove he did something wrong. And this trial doesn't take place in a civilian court. Shows what these people know about the military.

Facts don't matter, just more gaslighting. They can say Vindman clearly committed 100s of crimes, but the Deep State is protecting him. Now the sheep can believe Vindman is lying due to his hatred of Trump, he is a criminal, and the entire military is part of a Deep State conspiracy to attack Trump's presidency.

[Johnnie]

This about covers Trump (75x gilded comment...with sources!):

[rass]

Love that last one from Dobbs

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[Jerloma]

That Sekulow rant on "lawyer lawsuits" was high comedy. These people are such clowns.

I missed that, but was he confusing FOIA lawsuit with lawyer lawsuits?

[rass]

Please don’t judge NJ by the rally this evening, or really by anything that happens in the Wildwoods in general.

[DaveInSeattle]

Please don’t judge NJ by the rally this evening, or really by anything that happens in the Wildwoods in general.

Not claiming this guy?

[DaveInSeattle]

Lets see how The Minister of Propaganda, Sean Hannity, is handling things tonight:

[The Sybian]

Lets see how The Minister of Propaganda, Sean Hannity, is handling things tonight:

I love how "let's hear from firsthand witnesses as a trial" is equated to "pushing an agenda due to your hatred of Trump." How are people stupid enough to believe this shit? Hannity needs a catchy nickname than "No Experience Hunter." Lame. And Congress should investigate a guy getting a board position at a private company because of his dad's connection equally to investigating the fucking President withholding Congressionally authorized funds to an ally at war for his own personal political gains? Really, no difference between a guy getting a cushy position he doesn't deserve versus... you get it. Holy fuck. The insanity of calling for Hunter Biden to testify at the impeachment trial is off the charts. Didn't Bill Barr go out to Ukraine to investigate already? And what crimes are they insisting Hunter committed other than sitting on a board? And Trump's quid pro quo is fine, but Joe Biden should be charged with a quid pro quo in exchange for something actually within the foreign policy interests.

[DaveInSeattle]

Lets see how The Minister of Propaganda, Sean Hannity, is handling things tonight:

I love how "let's hear from firsthand witnesses as a trial" is equated to "pushing an agenda due to your hatred of Trump." How are people stupid enough to believe this shit? Hannity needs a catchy nickname than "No Experience Hunter." Lame. And Congress should investigate a guy getting a board position at a private company because of his dad's connection equally to investigating the fucking President withholding Congressionally authorized funds to an ally at war for his own personal political gains? Really, no difference between a guy getting a cushy position he doesn't deserve versus... you get it. Holy fuck. The insanity of calling for Hunter Biden to testify at the impeachment trial is off the charts. Didn't Bill Barr go out to Ukraine to investigate already? And what crimes are they insisting Hunter committed other than sitting on a board? And Trump's quid pro quo is fine, but Joe Biden should be charged with a quid pro quo in exchange for something actually within the foreign policy interests.

I'm not a lawyer...but can Hunter Biden sue for defamation/libel?

[P.D.X.]

If it's good enough for Devin Nunes...

[Nonlinear FC]

Scanning the clip aggregating sites today is fun. The FoxNews spin is tremendous. Several pundits/hosts calling Bolton a radical Leftist, "another Swamp Liberal," and a tool of the Left. Yeah, John Fucking Bolton has secretly been a Liberal all of these years, just lying in wait forcing the most extremist Right Wing warmongering policies for decades, waiting for that moment to drop one tidbit about Trump. About as likely as the radical Muslims in Kenya planting Obama's birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser in 1961 in case he became President one day. But, it doesn't matter, because the mouth breathers will believe anything. Greg Gutfeld declared the Bolton leak somehow vindicates Trump, then in the same sentence says we have no idea what the Bolton leak actually says, because nobody has seen it.

When I worked for New America, one of the foreign policy experts was all over Bolton and what radical neocon he was. This was way back in 2008 or so. And Bolton has been aligned that way his whole career.

People in DC see that kind of spin and it's so hard to take anything they say seriously, ever, because if you have even the slightest grasp on recent history, saying Bolton is a Swamp Liberal is 100 percent laughable.

But it doesn't matter anymore. Say whatever you want to the durr hurr crowd and they believe it.

[tennbengal]

[Pruitt]

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President

[Steve of phpBB]

Lets see how The Minister of Propaganda, Sean Hannity, is handling things tonight:

I love how "let's hear from firsthand witnesses as a trial" is equated to "pushing an agenda due to your hatred of Trump." How are people stupid enough to believe this shit? Hannity needs a catchy nickname than "No Experience Hunter." Lame. And Congress should investigate a guy getting a board position at a private company because of his dad's connection equally to investigating the fucking President withholding Congressionally authorized funds to an ally at war for his own personal political gains? Really, no difference between a guy getting a cushy position he doesn't deserve versus... you get it. Holy fuck. The insanity of calling for Hunter Biden to testify at the impeachment trial is off the charts. Didn't Bill Barr go out to Ukraine to investigate already? And what crimes are they insisting Hunter committed other than sitting on a board? And Trump's quid pro quo is fine, but Joe Biden should be charged with a quid pro quo in exchange for something actually within the foreign policy interests.

I'm not a lawyer...but can Hunter Biden sue for defamation/libel?

Yes. And there's a good case to be made that unlike Nunes, Hunter Biden is not a public figure and thus does not need to meet the heightened standards under NYT v Sullivan.

But if he were to do that, his entire business history and mode of operation would become fair game in discovery. The main charge against him seems to be that he got on a board dealing with oil and gas in Ukraine with no relevant experience, because he was connected. Is that false?

[The Sybian]

But if he were to do that, his entire business history and mode of operation would become fair game in discovery. The main charge against him seems to be that he got on a board dealing with oil and gas in Ukraine with no relevant experience, because he was connected. Is that false?

That seems completely true, but most of the allegations are that he is involved in criminal activities and corruption. Nothing criminal about accepting a board position you aren't qualified for. I just love when Rudy rails on Hunter being in no-show job he isn't qualified for, while his POS son is raking in tax payer money in a BS position on the WH staff.

The ironic thing, Trump kept saying before he took office that the first thing he would do is loosen up the libel laws so he could sue people for saying negative things about him.

[Johnnie]

I'd love to see a fire and brimstone Democrat. Just an "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. COME AT ME, BITCH." type. So sick of these lameass Republicans not being tested like the children they are.

Just one, petty and sarcastic. Like how Ted Lieu is, but with less tact.

I know that's not good overall or professional, but man would it make for a great foil when we live in 1984 and we've always been at war with Eastasia. I can't stand that we don't have a person calling bullshit bullshit with a "fuck you" edge.

[The Sybian]

I'd love to see a fire and brimstone Democrat. Just an "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. COME AT ME, BITCH." type. So sick of these lameass Republicans not being tested like the children they are.

Just one, petty and sarcastic. Like how Ted Lieu is, but with less tact.

I know that's not good overall or professional, but man would it make for a great foil when we live in 1984 and we've always been at war with Eastasia. I can't stand that we don't have a person calling bullshit bullshit with a "fuck you" edge.

Alan Grayson tried that, he just came off as an unstable douche. Anthony Weiner did a great job going on FoxNews and pulling no punches calling them out on their bullshit. Then he let his freak flag out of the closet.

[A_B]

Why wouldn't the democrats be asking the defense team questions instead of their own team? And vice/versa?