The Swamp

If there is already a thread...sorry but season tips off next week.
some thoughts
1.) Terps are overrated. I like the team but #7/#8 ranking will not be where this team ends up. Guessing high teens...hope they prove me wrong
2.) Anthony Edwards....if he is not nicknamed "goose" "ER" "Dr. Greene" or "Gilbert"... Georgia fans should be shamed (does Georgia have any basketball fans?).
3.) Any news on the personal reason Beilein resigned from Niagara? if you type in his name and rumors you get stories of infidelity...student?

Nice way to start the college hoops season on ESPN at MSG. Starts at 7pm (Yeah I will probably try to find Holy Cross v. Maryland instead)
3 v. 4 (Kansas v. Duke)
1 v. 2 (Michigan State v. Kentucky)

Memphis is gonna be super fun.

Dug into the Beilein resignation when it happened last month due to the MI connection. Given the language used, it seems a lot more like a substance abuse issue than cheating with a student. Something about taking time to work on life issues... He also suffered some kind of back issue which had people thinking it was an opioid-related addiction.

tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:21 am Memphis is gonna be super fun.

I am very interested to see how good Wiseman is.

A_B wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:14 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:21 am Memphis is gonna be super fun.

I am very interested to see how good Wiseman is.

It's definitely a bit of a mystery still. They've held him out of the exhibitions so far with an assortment of minor ailments. So there hasn't been any chance to get an initial feel for him with this group of players. He is supposed to be good to go now, so the wraps come off this week.

Its not exceptionally creative but I believe Michigan State wins in April.

Michigan State won't win crap. I doubt they even win the Big Ten. Most people don't realize Tom Izzo quit coaching up his players about a decade ago and at this point any success MSU has typically is in spite of him, not because of him.

All I know is they won’t win shit tonight!

Early season CBB scares me from a betting perspective.

Unless you've got some kind of inside info (and that's not snarky -- sometimes you can pick good stuff up from the local fishwraps if the reporting is good enough), you're just throwing darts at a dartboard with most of these teams. MSU could beat Kentucky by 20 or vice versa and it won't mean too much come time for the conference season. I generally like to fade coaches like Izzo who don't seem to do a good job developing talent early in the season though. I'd lump Calipari in that bucket for the most part, so I'm definitely staying away from this game.

I think MSU wins tonight, possibly easily. Calipari is obviously a great recruiter and he gets his players to play hard and buy in defensively. But UK has tremendously underperformed on offense given the talent level because he micromanages and they run such conventional stuff. Not being able to win a title with Devin Booker and Karl-Anthony Towns, or even make the Final Four with PJ Washington and Tyler Herro, looks pretty bad in retrospect considering how good those guys all are in the NBA.

Cats by 90.

Dick Vitale is unbearable...

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:31 pm Dick Vitale is unbearable...

On this we can agree. I know he and corso are the elder statesmen but both are hard to listen to these days.

Level of play is pretty gross in these two opening night games. Kansas is the only team of the four shooting over 36% and they committed a million turnovers.

Wait they aren’t in mid season form?!?’bnvb bnvnb nbbnbbnb

A_B wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:59 pm Wait they aren’t in mid season form?!?’bnvb bnvnb nbbnbbnb

I don’t care if it’s opening night. A combined 16-52 shooting from the field is pretty terrible for teams ranked 1 + 2 in the country. As was Kansas committing 18 first half turnovers against Duke. It’s pretty hard to turn the ball over nearly once per minute with a 30 second shot clock!

Joe K wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:40 pm I think MSU wins tonight, possibly easily. Calipari is obviously a great recruiter and he gets his players to play hard and buy in defensively. But UK has tremendously underperformed on offense given the talent level because he micromanages and they run such conventional stuff. Not being able to win a title with Devin Booker and Karl-Anthony Towns, or even make the Final Four with PJ Washington and Tyler Herro, looks pretty bad in retrospect considering how good those guys all are in the NBA.

Fuck off fake UK fan!

Wiseman went for 28 and 11 in 22 minutes - so that debut was pretty okay. 3 blocks and the 28 points came on 11 of 14 from the floor.

tennbengal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:58 am Wiseman went for 28 and 11 in 22 minutes - so that debut was pretty okay. 3 blocks and the 28 points came on 11 of 14 from the floor.

More importantly, on a scale of 1-to-Draymond, how much are we going to hate him when he’s on the Warriors next year?

Joe K wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:07 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:58 am Wiseman went for 28 and 11 in 22 minutes - so that debut was pretty okay. 3 blocks and the 28 points came on 11 of 14 from the floor.

More importantly, on a scale of 1-to-Draymond, how much are we going to hate him when he’s on the Warriors next year?

He seems pretty chill. More like a 3.

As a Grizzlies fan, I am already zero'd in on Maxey with Kentucky as a running mate with Ja or the Edwards kid from Georgia.

Really looking forward to Syracuse's very young guards dealing with the Virginia defense tonight. Should be an educational experience.

What's up with the ACC playing conference games?

Can't mock Syracuse's out of conference schedule if they never play out of conference.

With 20-game regular season schedule, gotta play all those games sometime.

Well....the new Syracuse floor looks nice!

I didn't watch, but I'm sure Shirley thought that was a beautiful game of basketball.

I’m just waiting for the second half to start!

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:39 pm What's up with the ACC playing conference games?

20-game conference schedule this year and you gotta promote the ACC Network somehow. I look forward to the outcry in a couple seasons when they stick a Duke-Carolina game on there to get everyone to push their providers to carry the network.

Inexperienced guards + relying on three-point shooting X Virginia defense = worst Syracuse point total since WWII. Boeheim was still coach in that other game.

Sorry, Bengal.

Wowza

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:55 pm Sorry, Bengal.

Hardaway made a donation to memphis in 2008 so wiseman is ineligible now. Makes sense, as always, NCAA.

So the AAC isn’t a major???

Important detail left out of this tweet—the attorney’s name is Leslie Ballin

I’m seeing Penny helped them relocate?

Definitely a very unique case for a top 100 recruit.

Couple too many zeros.

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:44 am

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:39 pm What's up with the ACC playing conference games?

20-game conference schedule this year and you gotta promote the ACC Network somehow. I look forward to the outcry in a couple seasons when they stick a Duke-Carolina game on there to get everyone to push their providers to carry the network.

Inexperienced guards + relying on three-point shooting X Virginia defense = worst Syracuse point total since WWII. Boeheim was still coach in that other game.

Didn't know but a 20 game ACC schedule is a monster. In the right year you could easily have really good 8-12 teams.

Wiseman is playing tonight, by the way. Thank the lawyers once again for saving sports, if not society itself