90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

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Which is the better diss track/verse?

Range Life
6
75%
You Get What You Give
2
25%
 
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90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by rass » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:25 am

Maybe track is too strong. Verse?
Pavement - Range Life wrote:Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins
Nature kids, I/they don't have no function
I don't understand what they mean
And I could really give a fuck
The Stone Temple Pilots,
They're elegant bachelors
They're foxy to me
Are they foxy to you?
Brand New Radicals - You Get What You Give wrote:Fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson,
Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson
You're all fakes, run to your mansions
Come around, we'll kick your ass in.

I've always lumped these two songs together not just because they both contain attacks on 90s rock peers, but due to the out of nowhere-ness of the attacks and where they are placed in the songs.

Beck and Smashing Pumpkins are probably the most critically adored of the targets, so that's a split.

If you prefer your songs to rhyme, then Hanson->Manson->Mansions->ass in just can't be beaten.

Malkmus' lyrics seem to be a little more personal, or more targeted, and therefore more vicious, but the faux-tough guy delivery of "we'll kick your ass in" gets me every time.

No bonus points in this poll for the Billy Squier riff at the end of Range Life.
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Re: 90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by mister d » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:32 am

Different classes. Pavement's feels personal whereas Brand New Radicals seems rhyme based and probably the most hollow "threat" ever put in a song.
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Post by rass » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:37 am

That was cool how you efficiently boiled what I posted down to one sentence and used it as an argument to kill my entire comparison.

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Post by Ryan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:44 am

Not voting now

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Post by A_B » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:45 am

rass wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:37 am
That was cool how you efficiently boiled what I posted down to one sentence and used it as an argument to kill my entire comparison.

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That makes this the second least productive conversation you've had today.
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Re: 90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by mister d » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:56 am

rass wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:37 am
That was cool how you efficiently boiled what I posted down to one sentence and used it as an argument to kill my entire comparison.

:(
Is it better or worse that I didn't even read your notes because the comp itself had me ready to respond?
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Post by govmentchedda » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:23 am

They're both good songs that I have enjoyed, and will still not groan when they play on the radio. I feel like articles have been written on this, but it is kind of crazy that BNR didn't have any more songs. It's a really catchy pop track.
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Post by mister d » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:33 am

Then you, my friend, should read their lead singer's wiki page.
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Re: 90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by L-Jam3 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:39 am

mister d wrote:
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Then you, my friend, should read their lead singer's wiki page.
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Post by A_B » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:45 am

Isn't it just New Radicals?
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Post by Ryan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:52 am

Clearly also thinking of BNH, who did Dream On Dreamer, which I think has the record for most times played during a Real World episode.

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Post by brian » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:03 am

I just did Range Life at a company karaoke thing on Monday, coincidentally enough,
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Re: 90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by rass » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:13 am

A_B wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:45 am
Isn't it just New Radicals?
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Re: 90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by rass » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:15 am

A_B wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:45 am
rass wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:37 am
That was cool how you efficiently boiled what I posted down to one sentence and used it as an argument to kill my entire comparison.

:(
That makes this the second least productive conversation you've had today.
yes
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Re: 90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by DaveInSeattle » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:20 pm

I think you have to factor in that Pavement (and Stephen Malkmus) are infinitely cooler then New Radicals, which adds to the level of diss.

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Re: 90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by rass » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:39 pm

Unless you want to spin that to suggest that Pavement was punching down and NR was punching up.
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Re: 90s Diss Track - Range Life vs You Get What You Give

Post by Ryan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:57 pm

That YGWYG verse is also immediately preceded by disses to health insurance and big banks, so I give it points for managing to still be super-topical despite mentioning Hanson.

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