The Swamp

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:32 am What I've read is it threads the needle to fuck everyone. As a non-Jewish person, not vocally pro-Israel now makes you an anti-Semite and being pro-Palestine leaves you open to hate crime investigations and as a Jewish person, your "dual-loyalty" is now solidified as its nation vs nation versus nation (America) plus religion.

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:18 am There was another guy once who also made being Jewish a distinct type of nationality. Forget his name.

[+] spoiler

Not Muslim terrorists. Couple of white Christians)

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:15 pm AB, I know you meant the thread title in fun, but man it makes me cringe.

But, I suppose it’s not for me to say...

In any case, a question for the Tribesmen: will the majority of Jewish Americans think that Trump’s executive order is a good thing, or a bad thing?

Jews and of supporting Israel, this planned Executive Order only threatens First Amendment rights, which include the right to criticize the actions of any country on earth, while confirming a centuries-old antisemitic trope — that the primary loyalty of Jews is not to the state in which they live. This supposition has resulted in horrific discrimination against Jews in countless countries. We cannot stand for this accusation being brought against American Jews.

In addition to its antisemitic implications, the planned Executive Order will silence pro-Palestinian activists on campus and will be used as a tool to further weaponize accusations of antisemitism against American Muslims.

We affirm that Jews are not only adherents to a religion, but are also a people — Am Yisrael — with a long history and connection to one another all over the world, including in the Land of Israel. The modern political State of Israel, however, is a country, just like the United States. As a member of the United Nations, Israel is obligated to uphold international human rights law and liable to be criticized for failing to do so.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:15 pm AB, I know you meant the thread title in fun, but man it makes me cringe.

But, I suppose it’s not for me to say...

In any case, a question for the Tribesmen: will the majority of Jewish Americans think that Trump’s executive order is a good thing, or a bad thing?

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:05 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:15 pm AB, I know you meant the thread title in fun, but man it makes me cringe.

But, I suppose it’s not for me to say...

In any case, a question for the Tribesmen: will the majority of Jewish Americans think that Trump’s executive order is a good thing, or a bad thing?

I'd imagine that the divide in opinion will depend on whether they support him anyway.

the "Black Hatters" (ultra Orthodox) love the guy - after all Trump parrots Netanyahu when it comes to the Middle East. these guys live in a world that hasn't changed since 1700. Black and white.

Orthodox and Conservative folks will lean towards accepting it. They feel that if it somehow protects Israel and stops their kids from hearing alternative viewpoints on campus, than it's a good thing.

Jews of the Reform and Secular streams will mostly be against it.

Here's a statement from a very liberal Jewish organization: https://www.truah.org/press/truah-distu ... lWnPmxPSK8

Jews and of supporting Israel, this planned Executive Order only threatens First Amendment rights, which include the right to criticize the actions of any country on earth, while confirming a centuries-old antisemitic trope — that the primary loyalty of Jews is not to the state in which they live. This supposition has resulted in horrific discrimination against Jews in countless countries. We cannot stand for this accusation being brought against American Jews.

In addition to its antisemitic implications, the planned Executive Order will silence pro-Palestinian activists on campus and will be used as a tool to further weaponize accusations of antisemitism against American Muslims.

We affirm that Jews are not only adherents to a religion, but are also a people — Am Yisrael — with a long history and connection to one another all over the world, including in the Land of Israel. The modern political State of Israel, however, is a country, just like the United States. As a member of the United Nations, Israel is obligated to uphold international human rights law and liable to be criticized for failing to do so.

And growing up in the Reform tradition, this is what I firmly believe. It hurts me to see my fellow Jews falling into bed with these Evangelicals and Venal assholes who will on the one hand claim to be protecting Jews, and on the other hand use the "Soros" and "Internationalist" tropes.

As the poison of anti-Semitism spreads with dangerous violence throughout Europe, the Middle East, and even here at home — most recently in a horrific attack on Tuesday in Jersey City — President Trump is taking meaningful action to crush this evil.

On Wednesday, the president will sign an executive order to combat the rise of anti-Semitism on American college campuses. As a grandchild of Holocaust survivors, I understand the horrors of anti-Semitism. I could not be more proud of President Trump’s new policy.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:59 am Here comes Jared to reassure everyone that this is A-Ok!

Jared Kushner: President Trump Is Defending Jewish Students

As the poison of anti-Semitism spreads with dangerous violence throughout Europe, the Middle East, and even here at home — most recently in a horrific attack on Tuesday in Jersey City — President Trump is taking meaningful action to crush this evil.

On Wednesday, the president will sign an executive order to combat the rise of anti-Semitism on American college campuses. As a grandchild of Holocaust survivors, I understand the horrors of anti-Semitism. I could not be more proud of President Trump’s new policy.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:24 pm I believe it's "Observe"...

Speaking of which, considering that Ivanna and Donald's spawn professes to be an orthodox Jew, she should probably know that these beans are (most likely) not kosher.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:24 pm I believe it's "Observe"...

Speaking of which, considering that Ivanna and Donald's spawn professes to be an orthodox Jew, she should probably know that these beans are (most likely) not kosher.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:14 am But only a "U"...

Alright, alright - איך בין געווען אומגערעכט

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:48 am She's never BOUGHT a can of canned black beans, I'd wager, but also that she's had them.

bfj wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:56 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:14 am But only a "U"...

Alright, alright - איך בין געווען אומגערעכט

נסלח לך

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:44 pm You're saying since college, right? Because regardless of her upbringing, she definitely had at least 20 ramen noodles packets in college, particularly after slumming it in West Philly when she needed some dick and not from other Penn students.