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Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:16 am
by DSafetyGuy
tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:19 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:07 am
Bengals cutting Dalton and eating the $17.7 million cap charge. Will be interesting to see if the Pats make any moves to clear space for him, as they currently have about $2 million in space. Good thing they have $4.5 million from Antonio Brown's deal on their books.
They don't have to eat any money. The way his contract was structured the guaranteed money was already paid out. No cap hit. It's one of the reasons they were able to be so active in FA (spent $135 million in FA not counting AJ Green tag).
Fucking PFT.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:25 am
by sancarlos
EdRomero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:12 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:07 am
Bengals cutting Dalton and eating the $17.7 million cap charge. Will be interesting to see if the Pats make any moves to clear space for him, as they currently have about $2 million in space. Good thing they have $4.5 million from Antonio Brown's deal on their books.
I'd be surprised if they did anything significant to bring in someone. Maybe they try a one year deal like New Orleans did with Winston, but
it looks like they're going with Stidham and hoping they strike gold with him and the other younger players. Then next year, they have cap space to do stuff. That Brown deal was so bad.
Does Belichick have the hubris to want to prove he can just pull any QB off the rack and win with him (like he did with Matt Cassel), thus proving it was
him all along who had the magic, not Brady.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:39 am
by tennbengal
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:16 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:19 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:07 am
Bengals cutting Dalton and eating the $17.7 million cap charge. Will be interesting to see if the Pats make any moves to clear space for him, as they currently have about $2 million in space. Good thing they have $4.5 million from Antonio Brown's deal on their books.
They don't have to eat any money. The way his contract was structured the guaranteed money was already paid out. No cap hit. It's one of the reasons they were able to be so active in FA (spent $135 million in FA not counting AJ Green tag).
Fucking PFT.
They genuinely loathe the Bengals at PFT and inconvenient facts are inconvenient for that crew in this case.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:09 pm
by EdRomero
sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:25 am
EdRomero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:12 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:07 am
Bengals cutting Dalton and eating the $17.7 million cap charge. Will be interesting to see if the Pats make any moves to clear space for him, as they currently have about $2 million in space. Good thing they have $4.5 million from Antonio Brown's deal on their books.
I'd be surprised if they did anything significant to bring in someone. Maybe they try a one year deal like New Orleans did with Winston, but
it looks like they're going with Stidham and hoping they strike gold with him and the other younger players. Then next year, they have cap space to do stuff. That Brown deal was so bad.
Does Belichick have the hubris to want to prove he can just pull any QB off the rack and win with him (like he did with Matt Cassel), thus proving it was
him all along who had the magic, not Brady.
I don't think it's Hubris. I think it's the best long term option right now. If they sign Newton or Daulton, there chance of winning next year is slightly better, but not much of a chance to get past KC or Baltimore without Brady, so they're better off going for the longterm
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:16 pm
by brian
EdRomero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:09 pm
sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:25 am
EdRomero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:12 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:07 am
Bengals cutting Dalton and eating the $17.7 million cap charge. Will be interesting to see if the Pats make any moves to clear space for him, as they currently have about $2 million in space. Good thing they have $4.5 million from Antonio Brown's deal on their books.
I'd be surprised if they did anything significant to bring in someone. Maybe they try a one year deal like New Orleans did with Winston, but
it looks like they're going with Stidham and hoping they strike gold with him and the other younger players. Then next year, they have cap space to do stuff. That Brown deal was so bad.
Does Belichick have the hubris to want to prove he can just pull any QB off the rack and win with him (like he did with Matt Cassel), thus proving it was
him all along who had the magic, not Brady.
I don't think it's Hubris. I think it's the best long term option right now. If they sign Newton or Daulton, there chance of winning next year is slightly better, but not much of a chance to get past KC or Baltimore without Brady, so they're better off going for the longterm
I don't understand this theory. Say they sign Newton to a three or four-year deal, laden with incentives. How does that stop them from drafting and developing a QB with a high pick next year? That kid they draft for the future is still going to be two years away from taking the field at best probably (since he obvious isn't playing in 2020, the draft having already passed).
ETA: Obviously if they really think Stidham can be the long-term starter and might just need a year of trial by fire, that's one thing but that's a big bet when there are some very decent options out there to help extend their window through the rest of Belichick's tenure at least.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:18 pm
by Gunpowder
Unless Stidham is surprisingly good for someone of his pedigree, your chances of winning with Dalton are significantly better.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:24 pm
by mister d
Is Newton just completely done?
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:31 pm
by EdRomero
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:18 pm
Unless Stidham is surprisingly good for someone of his pedigree, your chances of winning with Dalton are significantly better.
You think they have a chance to win the Super Bowl with Daulton? My fear is they'd be better but then stuck in mediocrity.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:32 pm
by brian
Yeah, that's a legit concern. Though assuming his medicals are OK, hard to believe he wouldn't be better than Stidham. Hell, if Newton thinks he's healthy he could even be compelled to sign a one-year deal with a team like the Pats to try and get a bigger deal down the road.
I still think Winston -- as much as I hate him -- can be a good to very good NFL QB and would have been an option for the Pats as well perhaps if they were not stubbornly stuck on Stidham for some reason.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:33 pm
by EdRomero
brian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:16 pm
EdRomero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:09 pm
sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:25 am
EdRomero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:12 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:07 am
Bengals cutting Dalton and eating the $17.7 million cap charge. Will be interesting to see if the Pats make any moves to clear space for him, as they currently have about $2 million in space. Good thing they have $4.5 million from Antonio Brown's deal on their books.
I'd be surprised if they did anything significant to bring in someone. Maybe they try a one year deal like New Orleans did with Winston, but
it looks like they're going with Stidham and hoping they strike gold with him and the other younger players. Then next year, they have cap space to do stuff. That Brown deal was so bad.
Does Belichick have the hubris to want to prove he can just pull any QB off the rack and win with him (like he did with Matt Cassel), thus proving it was
him all along who had the magic, not Brady.
I don't think it's Hubris. I think it's the best long term option right now. If they sign Newton or Daulton, there chance of winning next year is slightly better, but not much of a chance to get past KC or Baltimore without Brady, so they're better off going for the longterm
I don't understand this theory. Say they sign Newton to a three or four-year deal, laden with incentives. How does that stop them from drafting and developing a QB with a high pick next year? That kid they draft for the future is still going to be two years away from taking the field at best probably (since he obvious isn't playing in 2020, the draft having already passed).
ETA: Obviously if they really think Stidham can be the long-term starter and might just need a year of trial by fire, that's one thing but that's a big bet when there are some very decent options out there to help extend their window through the rest of Belichick's tenure at least.
Maybe there is a creative way with the cap but I think if they gave out any type of good QB contract, they'd have to release more good players. It does sound like they like Stidham
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:39 pm
by tennbengal
EdRomero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:31 pm
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:18 pm
Unless Stidham is surprisingly good for someone of his pedigree, your chances of winning with Dalton are significantly better.
You think they have a chance to win the Super Bowl with Daulton? My fear is they'd be better but then stuck in mediocrity.
(Reviews past nine years)
That checks out.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:43 pm
by Brontoburglar
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:18 pm
Unless Stidham is surprisingly good for someone of his pedigree, your chances of winning with Dalton are significantly better.
I am a lot higher on Stidham than most -- I think he's got the chance to be really good and certainly better than Fromm/Eason in this year's class.
But that's admittedly a low bar! And I don't think he's going to be more than "capable" in 2020.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:04 pm
by L-Jam3
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:24 pm
Is Newton just completely done?
Isn't it partly because he can't come to them and have the doctors see how his shoulder and foot are progressing? I man-crush on Newton, but a team would basically be signing him, even if it's one year, sight-unseen.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 8:57 am
by Gunpowder
EdRomero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:31 pm
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:18 pm
Unless Stidham is surprisingly good for someone of his pedigree, your chances of winning with Dalton are significantly better.
You think they have a chance to win the Super Bowl with Daulton? My fear is they'd be better but then stuck in mediocrity.
Ehhh, not a very good one but I don't think you wouldn't have a chance I guess. I'm not that high on their team though so that doesn't help matters.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 8:58 am
by Gunpowder
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:24 pm
Is Newton just completely done?
Two shoulder surgeries? I think so. He just couldn't throw anymore after he took that hit from TJ Watt in 2018. Last year it just wasn't there in the first week.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:48 pm
by DaveInSeattle
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 2:43 pm
by DSafetyGuy
I hope Jay gets their kids vaccinated when he has them for the weekend.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 3:19 pm
by tennbengal
So earl Thomas is really tight with his brother.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 3:24 pm
by rass
Should have just emailed him, especially these days.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:36 am
by A_B
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:45 am
by tennbengal
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:51 am
by Giff
I can't stop looking.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:52 am
by brian
It's glorious.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:53 am
by The Sybian
Retiring due to trouble with Tribbles?
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 11:19 am
by Ryan
It looks like something at a Korean McDonalds
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 4:19 pm
by tennbengal
I’m still shook.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 9:32 am
by DSafetyGuy
"Bearded clam".
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:29 am
by HaulCitgo
As a teen we once convinced a friend that Asian pussy was horizontal. Otherwise I cant see it.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 12:38 pm
by Johnnie
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 12:50 pm
by HaulCitgo
Maybe so. But shes not likely to need a job. Just the lawyer.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 12:55 pm
by brian
Doesn’t she make a shitload from her show?
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 1:38 pm
by A_B
Yeah that’s a douche move on him that will end up costing him more than five million I’d say.
Unless there is a prenup I suppose.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:11 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Hopefully, Jay will take the kids to get vaccinated when he has them for a weekend.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 4:21 pm
by A_B
Dsafe is drinking already guys!
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:48 am
by DSafetyGuy
Tessitore and Booger are out of the MNF booth.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:56 am
by Sabo
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 9:48 am
Tessitore and Booger are out of the MNF booth.
The best NFL news I've heard in a while.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:42 pm
by Pruitt
Sabo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 9:56 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 9:48 am
Tessitore and Booger are out of the MNF booth.
The best NFL news I've heard in a while.
That is awesome news!
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:35 pm
by mister d
Uh ... of course they are. It’s the off-season!!!
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 6:35 pm
by The Sybian
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:32 am
"Bearded clam".
That was the name of my fantasy football team for about 10 years.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:12 pm
by EdRomero