Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:15 pm
I wonder if there will be a push to get rid of the word "Chief" in the military for some of our ranks.
I would think not since "Chief" is more a word to give leadership roles and responsibilities to with respect and admiration than appropriate Native culture. But we'll see.
Probably in the clear, as dictionary.com has the origin going back to the 13th century.
So the Native American's appropriated the term from the Europeans! Let's take it back!
Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:15 pm
I wonder if there will be a push to get rid of the word "Chief" in the military for some of our ranks.
I would think not since "Chief" is more a word to give leadership roles and responsibilities to with respect and admiration than appropriate Native culture. But we'll see.
Probably in the clear, as dictionary.com has the origin going back to the 13th century.
So the Native American's appropriated the term from the Europeans! Let's take it back!
Yes, white people should absolutely win for once.
Re: Racism
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:49 pm
by wlu_lax6
Isn't there a bridge the gap transition that could be done. Especially where you have a name you don't have to change. You just add a secondary logo, then make the 2nd logo more prominant, and then just swap.
So I went to Franklin Senior High. Named after Benjamin Franklin (Founded in 1820). So it makes sense that our mascot was the Indians. And sometimes it was the Big Red Indians. My cheerleader friend from the Philippines was often the one dressed in the headdress and warpaint on the sidelines. The mid 90s were a different time. So I figured, Baltimore Co might have some pressure for mascot naming. Nothing that I can tell. The logo is an vertical stylized FHS with a Feather hanging off of it (that is different from when I was there). I can see the school slowly migrating away from the logo and then remascoting.
Re: Racism
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:55 pm
by mister d
Why do you even have to bridge the gap? If an owner was told some new logo could make them $30MM in additional apparel sales if they could implement it in a week, they'd implement it in a week.
Re: Racism
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:05 pm
by wlu_lax6
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:55 pm
Why do you even have to bridge the gap? If an owner was told some new logo could make them $30MM in additional apparel sales if they could implement it in a week, they'd implement it in a week.
Because you can get that $ anyway (see NHL retro reverse jerseys or what not) and you don't want the PR headache (Because it really is just PR not reality about people burning their gear, "never watching again", etc.). On the PR thing..DC is a great example. Team wins 4 games in a row and nobody is really that worried about the fact they are the WFT. More worried about if they will keep wearing the sharp white-white jersey combo.
Re: Racism
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm
by wlu_lax6
So anyone else tracking the USSF fiasco this weekend? Not often you see the 7-a-side paralympic team member creating a media storm.
I'd bet you my last donut this guy gave that tirade of a speech in order to run for political office.
Re: Racism
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:57 pm
by wlu_lax6
pretty interesting background that does not point liberal
Lakeland Florida now lives in Tampa
played soccer for St. Andrews (college)
worked for a Police Department.
3 tours in Afghanistan (Army Special Ops)
injured in combat as a government security contractor
climbed mountains after disability and found professional Muay Thai in Thailand, MMA in Europe, and drove F1 cars in European circuits (not sure what that means)
Re: Racism
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:17 pm
by govmentchedda
JFC, another Tampan up to no good?! Had no idea he was from around here.
Re: Racism
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:30 pm
by Reaper
Pruitt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:52 pm
What a jackass.
"Social media gestapo..."
He said "my apology letter:" and his second sentence starts with "I will never apologize for the statements I made."
Originally quoted from the 2020 NFL off-season thread, the race-norming suit was thrown out this week. So yes, racism (and the NFL) gets another win.
Re: Racism
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:56 pm
by mister d
JFC. Professional sports might be the most able of any industry to determine the educational backgrounds of all their employees. This should be a massive scandal but I’m sure won’t be.
Re: Racism
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:54 am
by L-Jam3
I haven't heart much chatter if any here. What are your guys thoughts on the Derek Chauvin case? Do you think he's getting off?
Normally, I would say he probably would be acquitted. But in the change over the last few years, coupled with that one conviction when the female cop entered the wrong apartment and shot the black guy just watching tv, and later was convicted of (IIRC) 2nd degree, I feel like he's getting at least voluntary manslaughter.
But I am sad to say that if he gets convicted of merely a minor charge it wouldn't at all surprise me.
Re: Racism
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:56 am
by A_B
I think he's getting a murder rap. Haven't the police said that isn't in their training? Basically disavowing him.
Re: Racism
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:38 am
by Giff
Yeah, there's really not much the defense has now. The testimony yesterday that a healthy person would've died too was pretty damning, IMO. Also, the bystander testimonies are just gut-wrenching. The guilt they're going to carry the rest of their lives because of this racist piece of shit is so sad. And the defense trying to paint them as angry is just infuriating.
Re: Racism
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:05 am
by The Sybian
Giff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:38 am
Yeah, there's really not much the defense has now. The testimony yesterday that a healthy person would've died too was pretty damning, IMO. Also, the bystander testimonies are just gut-wrenching. The guilt they're going to carry the rest of their lives because of this racist piece of shit is so sad. And the defense trying to paint them as angry is just infuriating.
I haven't followed directly, but hear commentary on a couple of podcasts (Preet Bharara an Elie Honig, both former Federal Prosecutors) and they are both amazed by the strength of the prosecutions case. They were surprised at the number of police officers testifying on behalf of the prosecution, including the Chief and the guy in charge of training. They also had the firefighter who witnessed it, and bystanders who called 911 on the police! I think they even played the call in court. The judge allowed them to play the entire 8+ minutes recording... I can't see how Chauvin isn't convicted of something here, but with a jury, you just never know. You just need one pro-Cop juror to refuse to convict, and you have a hung jury.
Giff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:38 am
Yeah, there's really not much the defense has now. The testimony yesterday that a healthy person would've died too was pretty damning, IMO. Also, the bystander testimonies are just gut-wrenching. The guilt they're going to carry the rest of their lives because of this racist piece of shit is so sad. And the defense trying to paint them as angry is just infuriating.
I haven't followed directly, but hear commentary on a couple of podcasts (Preet Bharara an Elie Honig, both former Federal Prosecutors) and they are both amazed by the strength of the prosecutions case. They were surprised at the number of police officers testifying on behalf of the prosecution, including the Chief and the guy in charge of training. They also had the firefighter who witnessed it, and bystanders who called 911 on the police! I think they even played the call in court. The judge allowed them to play the entire 8+ minutes recording... I can't see how Chauvin isn't convicted of something here, but with a jury, you just never know. You just need one pro-Cop juror to refuse to convict, and you have a hung jury.
The 911 dispatcher who took the call called his supervisor while it was going on! I think even having one pro-cop juror isn't as big a worry here when so many cops are testifying against him.