rass wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:55 am
Billy Ray Cyrus, huh?
Certainly not a fan, but good on him for trying to help out.
He's probably more woke than about 90 percent of the guys in Nashville (at a minimum) so he's definitely earned some respect for me, especially w/r/t this situation.
Re: Racism
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:23 am
by Johnnie
I wanted to make a joke like this, but coming from a white guy I couldn't put it in a way that wouldn't sound racist, so...
So, this thing about the Cub fan doing the OK/White Power symbol on camera behind Doug Glanville ...
what the fuck is the "Circle Game"? Is that really a thing? Am I out of it that much?
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:09 am
by govmentchedda
At Lightning games they do a Standing Salute in the second period, honoring a local serviceman or woman. One of them at a game did this symbol whilst being shown on the jumbotron and it really pissed me off, until I remembered the Circle Game.
It's really hard to determine intent, and Circle Game loyalists are not ceding their corner.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:17 am
by Steve of phpBB
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:09 am
At Lightning games they do a Standing Salute in the second period, honoring a local serviceman or woman. One of them at a game did this symbol whilst being shown on the jumbotron and it really pissed me off, until I remembered the Circle Game.
It's really hard to determine intent, and Circle Game loyalists are not ceding their corner.
Apparently the Cubs figured out who the guy was and checked his social media output, and concluded pretty strongly that he was doing it as the white power symbol.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:18 am
by mister d
Cubs were due to get one right here.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:24 am
by Steve of phpBB
mister d wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:18 am
Cubs were due to get one right here.
No shit. It's so strange to see "the Cubs did it right" about something off the field.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:26 am
by mister d
And they had the leeway to let this slide, either by not being able to prove who it was or allowing ambiguity in the signal. So nice work there.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:29 am
by Steve of phpBB
mister d wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:26 am
And they had the leeway to let this slide, either by not being able to prove who it was or allowing ambiguity in the signal. So nice work there.
In all honesty, with the shit they are getting for Russell, and the Rickettses, and Sinclair, I don't think they had much leeway with a big part of their fanbase.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 1:27 pm
by EnochRoot
So what is this "Circle Game"? This is the white power shit that collection of punchable, bussed-in-from-Kentucky faces did in DC a few months ago?
I did this in tech school a bunch of years ago. You trick the other person into looking at the circle below the waist. There's almost a natural inclination to "look" because of movement or because someone is telling you to do something and you're fighting the temptation
Ever have someone shove a fork full of food to your face and go "Oh man, you have to taste this!" and you just automatically do it without thinking what the hell you just ate? It's like that but for your eyes.
It's a juvenile game that ends with a laugh or a punch. Similar to getting "iced" or whatever.
Racist white people co-opted it because it intentionally obfuscates intent and they have an easy out when caught doing it.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 3:49 pm
by Pruitt
It's a sickening sign of where we are at the moment when a guy feels emboldened enough to make that sign on television.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:24 pm
by DaveInSeattle
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 3:49 pm
It's a sickening sign of where we are at the moment when a guy feels emboldened enough to make that sign on television.
Or behind a Supreme Court nominee...
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 5:04 pm
by Johnnie
And see, that's exactly the thing they hide behind. It's a dumb, fratty way to bastardize a situation. Like throwing up a middle finger during a news person who's on site.
Except there's a clear position to do the "ok" symbol to convey "ok." Like this:
And when you play The Circle Game, it's like this:
But that woman is clearly communicating "I'm a white supremacist." Her hand is in neither position. And she's sitting behind Mr. I Like Beer Rapist Man.
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 3:49 pm
It's a sickening sign of where we are at the moment when a guy feels emboldened enough to make that sign on television.
Or behind a Supreme Court nominee...
That chick's not white. Maybe a few generations from an African, or at the very least I'm guessing a Spaniard or three had their way with her ancestors back in Ireland?
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 3:49 pm
It's a sickening sign of where we are at the moment when a guy feels emboldened enough to make that sign on television.
Or behind a Supreme Court nominee...
That chick's not white. Maybe a few generations from an African, or at the very least I'm guessing a Spaniard or three had their way with her ancestors back in Ireland?
How is she not white? And since when are Spaniards not white?
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 3:49 pm
It's a sickening sign of where we are at the moment when a guy feels emboldened enough to make that sign on television.
Or behind a Supreme Court nominee...
That chick's not white. Maybe a few generations from an African, or at the very least I'm guessing a Spaniard or three had their way with her ancestors back in Ireland?
How is she not white? And since when are Spaniards not white?
In the context of white nationalism in America? No. I’m well aware of Spain’s myriad of issues re: nationalism, too.
Re: Racism
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:50 pm
by sancarlos
Johnnie wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:07 pm
It's a juvenile game that ends with a laugh or a punch. Similar to getting "iced" or whatever.
Racist white people co-opted it because it intentionally obfuscates intent and they have an easy out when caught doing it.
That explains it. I remember that silly game from junior high. Had no idea it became something else.
Turning Point USA, the nationwide alt-right campus organization, voluntarily ousted a member of its University of Nevada Las Vegas chapter early Friday morning after a viral video showed several individuals yelling “White Power” and “fuck the niggers.”
It’s Going Down, an anarchist and anti-fascist news organization, discovered the video, which shows a young man whom It’s Going Down identified as Riley Grisar, the president of the UNLV’s TPUSA chapter. In the video, the man flashes the “OK” hand symbol, which has been used as a meme, dog whistle, and racist symbol by various elements of the alt-right, and repeatedly says “white power,” while hugging a young woman who shouts “we’re going to rule the country” and “fuck the niggers.”
Of course they were doing the White Power/Ok hand thing...
Turning Point USA, the nationwide alt-right campus organization, voluntarily ousted a member of its University of Nevada Las Vegas chapter early Friday morning after a viral video showed several individuals yelling “White Power” and “fuck the niggers.”
It’s Going Down, an anarchist and anti-fascist news organization, discovered the video, which shows a young man whom It’s Going Down identified as Riley Grisar, the president of the UNLV’s TPUSA chapter. In the video, the man flashes the “OK” hand symbol, which has been used as a meme, dog whistle, and racist symbol by various elements of the alt-right, and repeatedly says “white power,” while hugging a young woman who shouts “we’re going to rule the country” and “fuck the niggers.”
Of course they were doing the White Power/Ok hand thing...
Serious question, whats a dog whistle? In this context, obviously, before Delaware posts a picture of an actual whistle used to train dogs.
Re: Racism
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 3:18 am
by brian
Dog whistle is something that wouldn’t be obvious to many or most people but is for the people it’s intended for. Perfect fit in this case because if you read the comments on these stories there’s lots of dopes who say stupid shit like “lol dumb libtards are trying to say OK sign is racist now”.
Re: Racism
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 5:20 am
by Johnnie
UNLV is where Tammy Lahren went to college, coincidentally.
Re: Racism
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:04 am
by mister d
“Thug” is a big dog whistle.
Re: Racism
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 8:57 am
by TT2.0
brian wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 3:18 am
Dog whistle is something that wouldn’t be obvious to many or most people but is for the people it’s intended for. Perfect fit in this case because if you read the comments on these stories there’s lots of dopes who say stupid shit like “lol dumb libtards are trying to say OK sign is racist now”.
gotcha, basically a slur that only some people can hear because other people dont realize what it is?
brian wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 3:18 am
Dog whistle is something that wouldn’t be obvious to many or most people but is for the people it’s intended for. Perfect fit in this case because if you read the comments on these stories there’s lots of dopes who say stupid shit like “lol dumb libtards are trying to say OK sign is racist now”.
gotcha, basically a slur that only some people can hear because other people dont realize what it is?
But the slur doesn’t involve any subtext.
Re: Racism
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 11:13 am
by mister d
Just allows for plausible deniability. When people respond to the OK sign or whatever with “doesn’t that mean _______ could be made one too”, the answer is always “yes”.
Re: Racism
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:51 am
by Johnnie
Dude's been killing it, recently. I'm glad to see some good is coming out of that bullshit from a couple months ago.
Re: Racism
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:41 pm
by TT2.0
The guy I hate for calling my fiance the N word had a Kramer moment on Facebook and i am reallllly fucking enjoying it.
Re: Racism
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:23 pm
by Shirley
Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:51 am
Dude's been killing it, recently. I'm glad to see some good is coming out of that bullshit from a couple months ago.
Just the most bizarre cultural phenomenon since ... maybe Gangnam Style?
I kind of feel bad for this dude, because he's never topping this. He'll be doing that song for the rest of his life.
Re: Racism
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:27 pm
by brian
Gonna make enough money to put his kids through college though.
Re: Racism
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:34 pm
by Shirley
brian wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:27 pm
Gonna make enough money to put his kids through college though.
Yeah, I only kinda feel bad. He's making a ton of money, but will probably be the butt of jokes in a year or two.
Re: Racism
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:05 pm
by Pruitt
brian wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:27 pm
Gonna make enough money to put his kids through college though.
Billy Ray can tell him a thing or two about one hit wonder-hood.