SWAMPCRASH 2020 - CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS

[HaulCitgo]

But that's crazy talk. Isiah had a way way way better career. Two time all American seems pretty standard for a great player that stays in school four years. 7x all star probably low for Hof types. Points impressive. Moreso the career length and perseverance through injuries probably the most impressive. Still he's low on achievements and overall game really post Detroit.

[mister d]

Hill's top basketball ref comp is Chris Mullin and the eyeball test back and forth looks about right.

[brian]

At the time he retired, Isiah Thomas was easily one of the top five point guards to ever play the game of basketball, so his HOF candidacy is without question. Suggesting otherwise is insanity. (Also don't forget he retired at age 32).

[Giff]

Pfft, he couldn't even make the Dream Team.

[DSafetyGuy]

Hill's top basketball ref comp is Chris Mullin and the eyeball test back and forth looks about right.

That just sounds crazy when you imagine the two of them actually playing basketball.

[Rex]

Of course Isiah should be in the Hall. That's not the point at all. If you are looking at only NBA stats, Hill and Thomas have roughly comparable career totals, accounting for height and all of the stat differences you would expect that to affect. And Hill had slightly better career advanced stats across the board. So did Dream Teamer Chris Mullin, for that matter. And all of those guys have better numbers than Dumars or Dave Bing. I get it, Isiah was the face of a 2-time NBA champion, Hill was not. But if you make the Hall too much about popular players on title teams, you would get guys like Bill Bradley in it wait what?

[mister d]

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Hey, his #1 comp is Hall of Famer Harold Baines, step off.

[mister d]

Tony Perez had a lower fangraphs oWAR than Keith Hernandez in 2,000 more PAs. He deserves more credit for being one of the least worthy modern era HoFers.

[BSF21]

Of course Isiah should be in the Hall. That's not the point at all. If you are looking at only NBA stats, Hill and Thomas have roughly comparable career totals, accounting for height and all of the stat differences you would expect that to affect. And Hill had slightly better career advanced stats across the board. So did Dream Teamer Chris Mullin, for that matter. And all of those guys have better numbers than Dumars or Dave Bing. I get it, Isiah was the face of a 2-time NBA champion, Hill was not. But if you make the Hall too much about popular players on title teams, you would get guys like Bill Bradley in it wait what?

Mullin's #1 comparable was my wrong answer...