2020 Presidential Election: Joe Biden vs Whoever the Republicans Nominate
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I don't have kids, but seeing an adult put his face into the face of a child like that is severely off-putting.
And as a dude who will never have kids, and when I was single knowing not to be around another child without that child's parent present, I was taught that you should try to be eye level with a kid and not bent over staring down. Looks very domineering. Especially when you consider he's very scared of being in public because of a stutter.
The encouraging words are one thing. Boosting a young kid's self esteem is definitely the point. But the way it's set up in that environment looks very, very weird.
And as a dude who will never have kids, and when I was single knowing not to be around another child without that child's parent present, I was taught that you should try to be eye level with a kid and not bent over staring down. Looks very domineering. Especially when you consider he's very scared of being in public because of a stutter.
The encouraging words are one thing. Boosting a young kid's self esteem is definitely the point. But the way it's set up in that environment looks very, very weird.
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I don't like Joe's touching either but it's also fair to assume that a parent/guardian would be told what would happen to their child in a planned shoot.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:51 amI’m assuming that dad didn’t explicitly state “here’s my kid, do as you wish”. I’m assuming Biden’s handlers didn’t let him know that Biden would be manhandling his kid as much as he did. Again, I don’t think Biden is a pedo, I think Biden thinks he’s everyone’s grandfather.
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(And I'm just as skeeved when he took the stage with Kamala and put his hand on her lower back to "guide" her to her podium. That's some trump-level domineering patriarchal bullshit right there.)
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“Ok stuttering kid’s dad, VP Biden may hug, caress and nuzzle your child, but it’s ok because he used to stutter also”.P.D.X. wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:24 pmI don't like Joe's touching either but it's also fair to assume that a parent/guardian would be told what would happen to their child in a planned shoot.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:51 amI’m assuming that dad didn’t explicitly state “here’s my kid, do as you wish”. I’m assuming Biden’s handlers didn’t let him know that Biden would be manhandling his kid as much as he did. Again, I don’t think Biden is a pedo, I think Biden thinks he’s everyone’s grandfather.
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Penn State people feel differently about kid touching.psunate77 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:26 amGod our society is so fucking stupid.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:47 am I’ll ask the parents in here, you’d be ok with a stranger rubbing his head against your kid, hugging them without consent, putting their hands on your kids’ face? Someone needs to tell him to stop that shit. I don’t question that his intentions are pure and good, but that looks horrible and is inappropriate.
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I am pretty sure JB was just encouraging and embracing the kid.. He bent down, got close to hear him. I am sure kid was nervous and probably wasn't talking loud and JB wasn't able to hear him. In terms of touching it may come off as creepy, but let's not forget Joe is how old, his idea of embracing is a little different then it is now.
You Trump people find the dumbest shit to get fired up over. But when my hero was as corrupt, in denial with his people getting arrested, said it was ok to grab female's pussies, made fun of a disabled person, and told 3 US born congress ladies and another who is a citizen to go back to their countries, I would probably do the same.
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Yeah you are right, we are all pedophiles and enablers. What a great argument.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:35 pmPenn State people feel differently about kid touching.psunate77 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:26 amGod our society is so fucking stupid.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:47 am I’ll ask the parents in here, you’d be ok with a stranger rubbing his head against your kid, hugging them without consent, putting their hands on your kids’ face? Someone needs to tell him to stop that shit. I don’t question that his intentions are pure and good, but that looks horrible and is inappropriate.
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Well, taking my position to a comical extreme sure reveals the error of my stance. I retract forthwith!bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:34 pm“Ok stuttering kid’s dad, VP Biden may hug, caress and nuzzle your child, but it’s ok because he used to stutter also”.P.D.X. wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:24 pmI don't like Joe's touching either but it's also fair to assume that a parent/guardian would be told what would happen to their child in a planned shoot.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:51 amI’m assuming that dad didn’t explicitly state “here’s my kid, do as you wish”. I’m assuming Biden’s handlers didn’t let him know that Biden would be manhandling his kid as much as he did. Again, I don’t think Biden is a pedo, I think Biden thinks he’s everyone’s grandfather.
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Yeah well the facts kinda show that maybe yall have a higher threshold... But no, Biden probably isn't a molester. Probably. He just does more creepy shit that makes you ask.
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You’re babbling and sound silly. I’m no Trump person. I’m all for Biden no question. My point was it looked creepy but was innocent. But they need to consider the optics of him rubbing children given the way Trump and his cult will go after him.psunate77 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:36 pmYeah you are right, we are all pedophiles and enablers. What a great argument.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:35 pmPenn State people feel differently about kid touching.psunate77 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:26 amGod our society is so fucking stupid.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:47 am I’ll ask the parents in here, you’d be ok with a stranger rubbing his head against your kid, hugging them without consent, putting their hands on your kids’ face? Someone needs to tell him to stop that shit. I don’t question that his intentions are pure and good, but that looks horrible and is inappropriate.
As for the PSU comment, I do love a nice piece of low hanging fruit.
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The kiss was too much.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:46 pmYou’re babbling and sound silly. I’m no Trump person. I’m all for Biden no question. My point was it looked creepy but was innocent. But they need to consider the optics of him rubbing children given the way Trump and his cult will go after him.psunate77 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:36 pmYeah you are right, we are all pedophiles and enablers. What a great argument.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:35 pmPenn State people feel differently about kid touching.psunate77 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:26 amGod our society is so fucking stupid.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:47 am I’ll ask the parents in here, you’d be ok with a stranger rubbing his head against your kid, hugging them without consent, putting their hands on your kids’ face? Someone needs to tell him to stop that shit. I don’t question that his intentions are pure and good, but that looks horrible and is inappropriate.
As for the PSU comment, I do love a nice piece of low hanging fruit.
And it doesn’t get lower hanging than melon.
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It’s like how you let a new dog smell your hand first to get comfortable.
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JFC it didn’t even occur to me that it could even possibly be thought of as creepy. No, I wouldn’t have a problem if someone did that to my kid in that kind of setting.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Yeah we just let politicians get a little handsy with our kids cause we know it's a media stunt? Sure hope that kids knows he's just playing a stutterer on TV. Otherwise he might think that's what old guys do when they like you.
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Did Joe grab his dick or something?
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Steve, take every weird contact and turn it to Trump and a 13 year old girl and tell me it’s fine.
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Does she stutter?
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Or for fun say it’s the same stuff but Romney and a 13 year old girl or Graham and a 13 year old boy ... then decide if the action is weird.
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Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I think it makes a difference that it's a boy and not a girl. Unless I've missed some big news, there's no reason to think that Biden had a sexual interest in the kid.
And yeah, if Romney hugged and touched a 13yo boy like that in the process of giving the kid encouragement with a tough emotional situation, it also would not occur to me that there was something creepy about it.
If it was Elizabeth Warren doing something like that to a 13yo girl, would it be creepy?
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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My experience is it's mostly man on boy.
It's just too touchy. Not necessarily awkward touching but too much grabbing and face touching. Just a red flag. Not that the actions were inappropriate. Like grabbing a leg instead of an ass. Not an announcement that I'm a deviant more like I'd be down if you were abused and available.
It's just too touchy. Not necessarily awkward touching but too much grabbing and face touching. Just a red flag. Not that the actions were inappropriate. Like grabbing a leg instead of an ass. Not an announcement that I'm a deviant more like I'd be down if you were abused and available.
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I’d have an issue with *any stranger* kissing my kid on the top of the head, so therefore I thought that the kiss was over the line.
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The words/pat on the back are encouraging and appropriate. The face touching and the head kiss are not.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:37 pmMaybe I'm wrong about this, but I think it makes a difference that it's a boy and not a girl. Unless I've missed some big news, there's no reason to think that Biden had a sexual interest in the kid.
And yeah, if Romney hugged and touched a 13yo boy like that in the process of giving the kid encouragement with a tough emotional situation, it also would not occur to me that there was something creepy about it.
If it was Elizabeth Warren doing something like that to a 13yo girl, would it be creepy?
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I can't agree with Kyle enough here.
Let's fight a culture war while America crumbles.
Let's fight a culture war while America crumbles.
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Except it was encouraging and that kid just spoke at the DNC.bfj wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:50 pmThe words/pat on the back are encouraging and appropriate. The face touching and the head kiss are not.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:37 pmMaybe I'm wrong about this, but I think it makes a difference that it's a boy and not a girl. Unless I've missed some big news, there's no reason to think that Biden had a sexual interest in the kid.
And yeah, if Romney hugged and touched a 13yo boy like that in the process of giving the kid encouragement with a tough emotional situation, it also would not occur to me that there was something creepy about it.
If it was Elizabeth Warren doing something like that to a 13yo girl, would it be creepy?
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I hope I never reach the level of cynicism displayed by so many of you in this thread. I’d hate to have watched this video and have the reaction y’all did. Damn.
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In fact, if this was any other message board, I’d probably ask y’all to question what the fuck is wrong in your own head where that’s the first place you go after watching that video.
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I’m pretty sure I can think Joe was sincere and well meaning and that he was inappropriate. Got a big open mind over here.
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If it was your daughter and you thought it was inappropriate, then it was. This kids parents don’t feel that way and this kid goes from being bullied for his stutter to speaking at the DNC, but this board wants to focus on the “inappropriateness”. Didn’t even register to me or my wife when watching this and I’m glad it didn’t.
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Never attacked the message, just the handsy old guy. If he keeps his hands off the kid, it’s a perfect spot.
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This is going to be good.
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I have to say I agree with Steve and Giff here.
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Aside from “Biden as 2020 Democratic candidate”, is there any instance at all where people here would be justifying unfamiliar authority figure treats 13 year old with physical affection as one would their own son? I’m struggling.
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Look, I'm not saying there was anything intentionally done that should give you pause
BUT
if we're living in the day and age where people have to apologize for shit from years and years ago that was considered ok then but not now and constantly act as if everything going forward will be scrutinized as problematic, then maybe some folks feeling uncomfortable with a dude in his late 70s being a bit to touchy with a young kid shouldn't be immediately dismissed as overreacting or otherwise.
Ok?
BUT
if we're living in the day and age where people have to apologize for shit from years and years ago that was considered ok then but not now and constantly act as if everything going forward will be scrutinized as problematic, then maybe some folks feeling uncomfortable with a dude in his late 70s being a bit to touchy with a young kid shouldn't be immediately dismissed as overreacting or otherwise.
Ok?
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Jesus.
Fucking.
Christ.
Maybe you’re struggling because *you’re* thinking about it as “Biden as 2020 Democratic candidate”?
Others less fixated on that issue might look at it as “respected accomplished figure who overcame significant [handicap/disability/impediment/hurdle] provides emotional support and encouragement to kid dealing with same. And look how awesome that is.
He’s not grabbing the kid’s dick. He’s not kissing on the lips or forcing his tongue down his throat.
Biden. Is. Not. Sexually. Abusing. The. Kid.
But he is the Establishment.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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He's been known as touchy-feely and it one of the things that the meme makers have been hammering on. It could perfectly legitimate display of empathy from Biden, but you KNOW it's leading to another pack of memes. The most contact should have been a pat on the shoulder.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
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Nobody.said.he.was.sexually.abusing.anyone.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:58 amJesus.
Fucking.
Christ.
Maybe you’re struggling because *you’re* thinking about it as “Biden as 2020 Democratic candidate”?
Others less fixated on that issue might look at it as “respected accomplished figure who overcame significant [handicap/disability/impediment/hurdle] provides emotional support and encouragement to kid dealing with same. And look how awesome that is.
He’s not grabbing the kid’s dick. He’s not kissing on the lips or forcing his tongue down his throat.
Biden. Is. Not. Sexually. Abusing. The. Kid.
But he is the Establishment.
We.said.he.was.too.touchy.feely.
The.support.and.encouragement.are.great.
Did I do that right?
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The kid was introduced to Biden in such a way as to indicate that he (or his father) wanted him to give his son some advice and support.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:24 pm JFC it didn’t even occur to me that it could even possibly be thought of as creepy. No, I wouldn’t have a problem if someone did that to my kid in that kind of setting.
I get the point in a general sense, but not in this specific case.
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"beautiful, with an exotic-yet-familiar facial structure and an arresting gaze."