The Swamp

Just saw a report she has passed.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/justice-r ... es&via=rss

Fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Fuck fuck fuck....

Oh my fucking god. They're going to ram through another fucking conservative justice.

What the fuck. What the fuck.

Fuck.

this is less than ideal.

Saw a joke on Twitter a couple of times this week about being hit in the head with a shovel and spending the next 7 weeks in a coma. Sounds great right about now.

"Just days before her death, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera: "My most fervent wish is that i I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

I fucking hate everything right now.

ETA

This better make a democratic senator absolutely apoplectic in Congress and threaten McConnell.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:43 pm "Just days before her death, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera: "My most fervent wish is that i I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

I fucking hate everything right now.

Trump is going to announce a replacement next week...and McConnell will start hearings in October. Bet on it.

We are so fucked.

Pelosi and Schumer aren’t up to the task here.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:45 pm Pelosi and Schumer aren’t up to the task here.

No fucking way

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:43 pm "Just days before her death, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera: "My most fervent wish is that i I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

Can I say, though, FUCK HER FOR NOT RETIRING WHEN THE DEMS CONTROLLED THE PRESIDENCY AND THE SENATE?

Just as a reminder:



Watch how fast Mitch backtracks on that...

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:45 pm Pelosi and Schumer aren’t up to the task here.

Pelosi has nothing to do with it. Its totally on the Senate.

He will push Barr or cruz in.. SCOTUS will eventually decide the election and Trump will be awarded presidency.. Just prepare for it now.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:45 pm Pelosi and Schumer aren’t up to the task here.

The task being making 47 a bigger number than 53 and making it stay that way until January 3? No, I agree they are not up for that task.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:50 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:43 pm "Just days before her death, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera: "My most fervent wish is that i I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

Can I say, though, FUCK HER FOR NOT RETIRING WHEN THE DEMS CONTROLLED THE PRESIDENCY AND THE SENATE?

Yes, definitely. And Breyer is 82, btw.

Full fucking stop.

If Biden's response to McConnell allowing an appointment to the Supreme Court isn't "We're packing the fucking court when I'm president, Mitch. Get fucked." then he's a piece a shit.

(that I'm still going to vote for)

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:56 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:45 pm Pelosi and Schumer aren’t up to the task here.

The task being making 47 a bigger number than 53 and making it stay that way until January 3? No, I agree they are not up for that task.

To leverage or threaten any Rs who might be at risk, shaky on the vote or compromised.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:50 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:43 pm "Just days before her death, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera: "My most fervent wish is that i I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

Can I say, though, FUCK HER FOR NOT RETIRING WHEN THE DEMS CONTROLLED THE PRESIDENCY AND THE SENATE?

Sorry...but no.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:01 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:56 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:45 pm Pelosi and Schumer aren’t up to the task here.

The task being making 47 a bigger number than 53 and making it stay that way until January 3? No, I agree they are not up for that task.

To leverage or threaten any Rs who might be at risk, shaky on the vote or compromised.

Leverage or threaten them with what?

In all honesty, I don't think the Rs will fill the seat before Election Day. There are too many R senators fighting for seats and will fear a backlash if they push a nomination through.

But after Election Day? There is no leverage over anyone.

I don’t think Ds have any leverage unless they go Preston Brooks on someone like Cruz.


ETA: and I’m only about 60% joking.

Some people agree with me:

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 pm Some people agree with me:

Will taking a public stand make it more likely for Biden and Dem Senate candidates to win?

That is all that fucking matters.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:04 pmLeverage or threaten them with what?

If they’re younger, threats of what they’ll force through in a post McConnell (age 78) world. If they’re dirty, public airing or investigations if the situation makes it possible. If they’re Lindsay Graham or someone like him, exposure of whatever it is that has him lapdog to Trump. In theory, they should be furious about Garland and everything since to do more than grandstand, vote, lose and move on.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:12 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 pm Some people agree with me:

Will taking a public stand make it more likely for Biden and Dem Senate candidates to win?

That is all that fucking matters.

I fucking hate that we have to look at this through the prism of "Will it get us more votes if Joe Biden gets angry and calls bullshit?"

Always gotta kowtow to that shitty American who's "on the fence" to vote the other way. At some point you need to fucking stand up for yourself.

Not that this matters, but at least there is 1..



Maybe Romney is another

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:20 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:12 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 pm Some people agree with me:

Will taking a public stand make it more likely for Biden and Dem Senate candidates to win?

That is all that fucking matters.

I fucking hate that we have to look at this through the prism of "Will it get us more votes if Joe Biden gets angry and calls bullshit?"

Always gotta kowtow to that shitty American who's "on the fence" to vote the other way. At some point you need to fucking stand up for yourself.

Well, yeah. But a Biden threat to fundamentally change the Supreme Court will almost certainly lead to Trump and the GOP replacing not only RBG, but probably Breyer as well.

It’s gonna be awesome when the election goes to the SCOTUS.

To be fair, I think even the current Democratic leadership realizes if the GOP fills the seat before the election or after a Biden win, then the only response is to take the court to 11. I'm not even really worried about that. The harder part is going to be getting to 51 Dem senators this November so they can do it.

There's also this option, though arguably it plays into Trump's hands. Get ready for him to use the nomination fight to provoke widespread protests and wildcat strikes.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:53 pm Just as a reminder:



Watch how fast Mitch backtracks on that...

God, fuck Schumer.

This would theoretically be promising if you assume Manchin isn’t safe but Romney would join:

Trolling appears to be the only thing that remotely works in shaming Republicans.

He should follow up with a Moscow Mitch and Drumpf burn then dab.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:38 pm God, fuck Schumer.

because he finally responded how you'd like him to and that causes some sort of gall?

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:45 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:38 pm God, fuck Schumer.

because he finally responded how you'd like him to and that causes some sort of gall?

Lulz.

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:45 pmbecause he finally responded how you'd like him to and that causes some sort of gall?

Yes, I’ve been calling for dem leadership to turn up the twitter burns for several years now. Add this to Pelosi’s epic clap and I’m now satisfied.

brian wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:41 pm Trolling appears to be the only thing that remotely works in shaming Republicans.

Nothing works in shaming Republicans. They either already have a sense of some things going too far, or they don’t. Even the threat of losing their seats only goes so far.

The only thing that works is keeping Republicans out of positions of power in the first place. Unless the Dem isn’t sufficiently “progressive” of course.