Champions League 2020-2021

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:28 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:38 pm(Foden?)

Stones.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:48 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:38 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:51 am Woof. Especially that first goal.
Navas had to wait, as it looked like the guy running at the far post (Foden?) was going to get a touch on it. Really tough play, because if he goes for the cross and the attacker gets a touch, he is diving out of the way of that shot. From the reverse angle behind the keeper, it looked like the attacker was going to get there.

At that level, he has to be able to discern that the attacker was too far away (on the 6 when the ball was hit) for him to get there and treat that like a shot. The more dangerous aspect was the ball going far post.

I get that it's a tough play, but it's a soft goal.

Kind of like in hockey when a goalie is beaten short side because his skate/pad aren't flush to the pipe and a guy sneaks one in with with sneaky/great shot. It's not a howler, but I'm sure if you asked the goalie he'd tell you he should've had it.

Second goal, no issue. Wall discipline, obviously.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:49 am

Putting a finer point on it, if the attacker was about 2 yards closer and had slid? Sure, almost impossible for the goalie. But you look at that replay and the attacker is 4 or 5 yards from a wickedly in-swinging ball.

Post by **Shirley** » Sat May 01, 2021 10:07 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:48 am
The Sybian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:38 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:51 am Woof. Especially that first goal.
Navas had to wait, as it looked like the guy running at the far post (Foden?) was going to get a touch on it. Really tough play, because if he goes for the cross and the attacker gets a touch, he is diving out of the way of that shot. From the reverse angle behind the keeper, it looked like the attacker was going to get there.
At that level, he has to be able to discern that the attacker was too far away (on the 6 when the ball was hit) for him to get there and treat that like a shot. The more dangerous aspect was the ball going far post.

I get that it's a tough play, but it's a soft goal.

Kind of like in hockey when a goalie is beaten short side because his skate/pad aren't flush to the pipe and a guy sneaks one in with with sneaky/great shot. It's not a howler, but I'm sure if you asked the goalie he'd tell you he should've had it.

Second goal, no issue. Wall discipline, obviously.

Willian scored like that two or three times off of free kicks in a single season for Chelsea a few years back (maybe the year they won the league under Conte). It's tough for the goalie when he's trying to deal with multiple runners and expecting a header.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sat May 01, 2021 4:16 pm

Absolutely tough, no question.

I would just argue that this wasn't as tough as some of those from Willian.

Head to about 5:30 on that... That's a nightmare for a goalie. Multiple attackers and much closer to being a danger.

And my initial reaction (woof) wasn't really that Navas was shambolic or anything, but I'd be curious to hear his thoughts on those 2. He's certainly taking some shit in the media, fair or not.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon May 03, 2021 10:29 am

So that's what a Willian goal looks like...

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 04, 2021 2:10 pm

This isn't fun.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 04, 2021 2:15 pm

Redacted.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue May 04, 2021 2:22 pm

VAR got one right!

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue May 04, 2021 2:22 pm

They really look like they should be wearing skates. This is also gonna be really dull from here on out.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue May 04, 2021 2:40 pm

Can tell not find an orange ball?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:05 pm

That header + Bernardo's awful giveaway could very easily have this dead level right now so "Mister D is Feeling Fortunate". Nice that we're in finals or epic collapse territory now.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:26 pm

So pretty.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:26 pm

Now, STOP SCORING, I've got the under!

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:32 pm

guuuh. Thought PSG to win or draw at +110 was pretty safe considering how defensive city were likely to be.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:33 pm

The KDB pass here was sublime...

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:40 pm

Thanks, post!

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:45 pm

Fernandinho is truly the master of the dark arts. Absolutely baits Di Maria into that red because he knows he's gonna meltdown. Takes 40 tactical fouls before a card himself. Pretty much the definition of a guy you hate playing against, but would love on your team.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:48 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:45 pm Fernandinho is truly the master of the dark arts. Absolutely baits Di Maria into that red because he knows he's gonna meltdown. Takes 40 tactical fouls before a card himself. Pretty much the definition of a guy you hate playing against, but would love on your team.

I hear the DiMaria card was for his "latino temperament"

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:49 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:48 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:45 pm Fernandinho is truly the master of the dark arts. Absolutely baits Di Maria into that red because he knows he's gonna meltdown. Takes 40 tactical fouls before a card himself. Pretty much the definition of a guy you hate playing against, but would love on your team.
I hear the DiMaria card was for his "latino temperament"

Did the Brits say that?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:52 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:49 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:48 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:45 pm Fernandinho is truly the master of the dark arts. Absolutely baits Di Maria into that red because he knows he's gonna meltdown. Takes 40 tactical fouls before a card himself. Pretty much the definition of a guy you hate playing against, but would love on your team.
I hear the DiMaria card was for his "latino temperament"
Did the Brits say that?

Not sure what feed but it was all over my twitter timeline.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue May 04, 2021 3:53 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:52 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:49 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:48 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:45 pm Fernandinho is truly the master of the dark arts. Absolutely baits Di Maria into that red because he knows he's gonna meltdown. Takes 40 tactical fouls before a card himself. Pretty much the definition of a guy you hate playing against, but would love on your team.
I hear the DiMaria card was for his "latino temperament"
Did the Brits say that?
Not sure what feed but it was all over my twitter timeline.

Yup, Jim Beglin, Irish

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue May 04, 2021 4:03 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:48 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:45 pm Fernandinho is truly the master of the dark arts. Absolutely baits Di Maria into that red because he knows he's gonna meltdown. Takes 40 tactical fouls before a card himself. Pretty much the definition of a guy you hate playing against, but would love on your team.
I hear the DiMaria card was for his "latino temperament"

That really gets my Irish up!

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed May 05, 2021 2:47 pm

You can tell a lot about someone in how they celebrate scoring a tap-in rebound.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed May 05, 2021 3:07 pm

I'm working and have the sound off. Catching glimpses, but going mental.

Tons of sites saying Pulisic in the starting lineup.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed May 05, 2021 3:10 pm

And we've talked about it before, but Chelsea has too many white dudes with the same haircut. Drives me nuts.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Wed May 05, 2021 3:49 pm

Very cool. Lead a generation kid!

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed May 05, 2021 3:57 pm

He's an absolute nightmare as a late game sub. We've talked about it before. Night. Mare.

You're tired, mentally and physically and this little killer leprechaun starts coming at you like he wants your damn lunch for 20-30 minutes.

The composure he's developing... At that level... Unreal.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed May 05, 2021 4:38 pm

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:47 pm You can tell a lot about someone in how they celebrate scoring a tap-in rebound.

Expound please

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed May 05, 2021 4:53 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:38 pm
P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:47 pm You can tell a lot about someone in how they celebrate scoring a tap-in rebound.
Expound please

My initial reaction was that his celebration was a little too self-congratulatory. (I don't rate Werner highly.)

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed May 05, 2021 5:57 pm

Huh. I'm fairly ambivalent, but he didn't do some kind of Ronaldo spin jump thing or point to his name on his back or slide on his knees into the corner.

Tangent... I absolutely loved the Mount-Pulisic slide into the corner. Top shelf.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed May 05, 2021 6:02 pm

Subplot with spiciness: Eden Hazard celebrating for quite some time on the field with his former 'mates.

I had the sound off, but found it really weird... mainly for the length of time. Shake hands, sure... He was out there for a very long time slapping backs and half hugging guys for way too long.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 05, 2021 6:07 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:02 pm Subplot with spiciness: Eden Hazard celebrating for quite some time on the field with his former 'mates.

I had the sound off, but found it really weird... mainly for the length of time. Shake hands, sure... He was out there for a very long time slapping backs and half hugging guys for way too long.

Meh, seemed like a nothingburger to me, but I'm sure the Spanish press will be all over it.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed May 05, 2021 6:16 pm

ESPN has a lengthy discussion with former players, VERY united in saying it was a really bad look.

And, yeah, the Spanish press will absolutely make a meal out of it, but the other folks that I'm sure are over Eden are the Real Madrid fans. He played like shit (for what he's supposed to be for the squad) and hasn't look the part for most of his time with the club.

Just really bad optics given the gravity of the loss.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Wed May 05, 2021 6:41 pm

Well someone is the USMNT locker room this summer will have a Champions League Championship Medal....but guessing Pulisic has a better chance of being on the field for part of the match.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 05, 2021 7:38 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:16 pm ESPN has a lengthy discussion with former players, VERY united in saying it was a really bad look.

And, yeah, the Spanish press will absolutely make a meal out of it, but the other folks that I'm sure are over Eden are the Real Madrid fans. He played like shit (for what he's supposed to be for the squad) and hasn't look the part for most of his time with the club.

Just really bad optics given the gravity of the loss.

He's been injured since the moment he hit the Iberian peninsula. It's likely some of that is on him for not training properly, but who can really say.

Post by **Shirley** » Wed May 05, 2021 8:44 pm

Just finished watching the game. Man, Chelsea looked good. I thought they played well in the first half even though Madrid had the bulk of the possession. But then Chelsea just completely dominated the second half. It could easily have been 4-0 or so. That's the best game Havertz has played for the Blues.

I also loved the way Pulisic played off the bench, but I'd also like to see him start. He's really playing at his peak right now, very similar to how he was last summer for the end of last season. I'm not sure who you take off to play him though, as the Havertz-Werner pairing up front is FINALLY starting to pay dividends and you can't not play Mount either. So maybe Christian as a deadly sub is his best fit for the moment against top teams.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri May 07, 2021 1:08 pm

Sid Lowe with a good piece at ESPN about Hazard.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat May 08, 2021 12:17 pm

I’m already pre-mad Jesus won’t be in the XI for the final.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat May 08, 2021 12:44 pm

Oh man, so sorry buddy