The Swamp

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:00 pm

psunate77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:49 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:43 pm

psunate77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:36 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:25 pm They're starting to set up a perimeter. Going to start cracking skulls now.

There not going to do shit.. I am sorry, but the idea of these people would be able to get in to the capitol while session is going and had cops "Talk to them" shows me all I need to know on who side the police is on.

Police just standing in gear while terrorist climb through windows, break windows..

Well, you must've missed the footage of a perimeter being set with metal barriers and cops beating the shit out of anyone rushing in. Just reporting what's on TV.

You wanna place bets on whether the police are going to fuck shit up when they get reinforcements?

You mean how they are taking photos with the protesters?

OK, these people are not terrorists.

Like the knuckleheads at BLM protests who went beyond protest, these people are engaged in vandalism and looting. It's wrong, and they should be identified and arrested (and I think they will), but it is not terrorism any more than what BLM-adjacent vandals were doing was terrorism.

Steve I love ya but there's IEDs. They're fucking terrorists. This is not breaking the window of a 7-11. You of all people on here are smart enough to know the difference. I understand that guys standing in a rotunda taking selfies are not actively as engaged as others but if this was the Black Panthers these guys would have been mowed down by a Blackhawk hours ago. Forcing your way onto and occupying government property is domestic terrorism. It was in Oregon, it was in Michigan, and it is in DC.

duff wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:24 pm Why are any of the news stations playing Trump's speech. Starting out by saying the election was stolen and that everyone knows it. Should have cut him off right then and there. Just have the balls to stand up for what is right. Remove the platform to reach people.

CNN said it was because it did include the message to "go home". But Stephen Miller worded it exactly the way he wanted it worded.

How quickly can impeachment or 25th amendment proceedings begin? 2 weeks is way too long.

EdRomero wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:27 pm How quickly can impeachment or 25th amendment proceedings begin? 2 weeks is way too long.

The problem is Pence has to get a majority of the cabinet secretaries to back him. Can they even vote if they are 'acting'?

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:26 pmSteve I love ya but there's IEDs. They're fucking terrorists. This is not breaking the window of a 7-11. You of all people on here are smart enough to know the difference. I understand that guys standing in a rotunda taking selfies are not actively as engaged as others but if this was the Black Panthers these guys would have been mowed down by a Blackhawk hours ago. Forcing your way onto and occupying government property is domestic terrorism. It was in Oregon, it was in Michigan, and it is in DC.

Yeah, I'm certainly in agreement with you when it comes to the IEDs. Planting explosive devices is terrorism.

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:27 pm

duff wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:24 pm Why are any of the news stations playing Trump's speech. Starting out by saying the election was stolen and that everyone knows it. Should have cut him off right then and there. Just have the balls to stand up for what is right. Remove the platform to reach people.

CNN said it was because it did include the message to "go home". But Stephen Miller worded it exactly the way he wanted it worded.

That one minute did more damage than people realize. What an asinine thing to broadcast. Anything for a eyeball on a Verizon ad. The complete lack of willingness to deplatform this man is beyond me.

Pence just unfollowed Trump on Twitter. This must mean something, right?

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:01 pm Attacking the US Capitol building is far more terroristic than busting up a Walgreens.

And apparently Pelosi can stop the former!

degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:31 pm Pence just unfollowed Trump on Twitter. This must mean something, right?

Hey I put up with this shit for 1435 days BUT NOT ONE MINUTE LONGER YOU'RE OVER THE LINE

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:30 pm

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:26 pmSteve I love ya but there's IEDs. They're fucking terrorists. This is not breaking the window of a 7-11. You of all people on here are smart enough to know the difference. I understand that guys standing in a rotunda taking selfies are not actively as engaged as others but if this was the Black Panthers these guys would have been mowed down by a Blackhawk hours ago. Forcing your way onto and occupying government property is domestic terrorism. It was in Oregon, it was in Michigan, and it is in DC.

Yeah, I'm certainly in agreement with you when it comes to the IEDs. Planting explosive devices is terrorism.

Violently taking a government building is also a form of terrorism. They didn't perform a sit in, the bum rushed the police and broke windows.

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:29 pm

EdRomero wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:27 pm How quickly can impeachment or 25th amendment proceedings begin? 2 weeks is way too long.

The problem is Pence has to get a majority of the cabinet secretaries to back him. Can they even vote if they are 'acting'?

I think "acting" secretaries have the same power as regular secretaries, so their votes would count.

I think the bigger question is whether Pence would have the courage and loyalty to do that, and whether a majority of cabinet officers would agree.

I think an impeachment might actually have a better chance at succeeding, but since the Constitution requires a trial presided over by the Chief Justice, that will probably take more than two weeks anyway.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:36 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:30 pm

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:26 pmSteve I love ya but there's IEDs. They're fucking terrorists. This is not breaking the window of a 7-11. You of all people on here are smart enough to know the difference. I understand that guys standing in a rotunda taking selfies are not actively as engaged as others but if this was the Black Panthers these guys would have been mowed down by a Blackhawk hours ago. Forcing your way onto and occupying government property is domestic terrorism. It was in Oregon, it was in Michigan, and it is in DC.

Yeah, I'm certainly in agreement with you when it comes to the IEDs. Planting explosive devices is terrorism.

Violently taking a government building is also a form of terrorism. They didn't perform a sit in, the bum rushed the police and broke windows.

But aside from breaking a few windows, haven't we been in favor of sit-ins and other forms of "occupy"ing?

Well, this is perfect:

This also supports the terrorism argument:

"A guillotine? Sorry, fellas. Gonna need more than that to call this more than a few rowdies overstepping their bounds."

What's the green flag w/ blue bands and a maltese cross thing in the intersection? Some white power shit?

have there been any arrests? at all??

a bunch of townies actually sitting in the Capitol - actually taking shit away ....

seriously - where are the fucking arrests???

What I'm really getting out of all this is that I should be in the flag industry. Fuckers must be making bank. I bet Gunpowder was high on flag futures and is gonna cash that check.

Nice Police work here.

Hey Max, long time listener, first time "above the line" quoter. Just a quick FYI, a lot of these people are the police, therefore there's not currently anyone to arrest the offenders. Had these people been black, availability would have been better. Love the show, I'll hang up and listen.

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:47 pm have there been any arrests? at all??

a bunch of townies actually sitting in the Capitol - actually taking shit away ....

seriously - where are the fucking arrests???

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:45 pm What's the green flag w/ blue bands and a maltese cross thing in the intersection? Some white power shit?

The one in this link?

https://www.sentinelsource.com/news/loc ... d0290.html

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:38 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:36 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:30 pm

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:26 pmSteve I love ya but there's IEDs. They're fucking terrorists. This is not breaking the window of a 7-11. You of all people on here are smart enough to know the difference. I understand that guys standing in a rotunda taking selfies are not actively as engaged as others but if this was the Black Panthers these guys would have been mowed down by a Blackhawk hours ago. Forcing your way onto and occupying government property is domestic terrorism. It was in Oregon, it was in Michigan, and it is in DC.

Yeah, I'm certainly in agreement with you when it comes to the IEDs. Planting explosive devices is terrorism.

Violently taking a government building is also a form of terrorism. They didn't perform a sit in, the bum rushed the police and broke windows.

But aside from breaking a few windows, haven't we been in favor of sit-ins and other forms of "occupy"ing?

This is the very definition of terrorism, the use of force or intimidation for a political purpose. They are there to prevent Congress from announcing Biden's Presidency. Can't get any more political than that.

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:53 pm

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:45 pm What's the green flag w/ blue bands and a maltese cross thing in the intersection? Some white power shit?

The one in this link?

https://www.sentinelsource.com/news/loc ... d0290.html

yessir

i needed the laugh :D

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:50 pm Hey Max, long time listener, first time "above the line" quoter.

literally LOL'd at the avatars

Here come the police in riot gear... Looks like insurgents are slowly walking down the steps. Hopefully that continues.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:59 pm Here come the police in riot gear... Looks like insurgents are slowly walking down the steps. Hopefully that continues.

They absolutely should not have that option.

So they're bringing all the reps and senators to Ft Mcnair, shouldn't they certify the election there? I don't believe there's anything that requires it to happen in the Capitol.

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:01 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:59 pm Here come the police in riot gear... Looks like insurgents are slowly walking down the steps. Hopefully that continues.

They absolutely should not have that option.

Well I'm all for them walking down the steps...in cuffs.

Hopefully she tweeted this after the IEDs were confirmed.

Watching FoxNews, curious to see their take. Might as well be CNN, same tone and info. Bret Baier saying they confirmed the strong smell of tear gas in the basement of the Capital is from the terrorists. They went in with tear gas and used it on the police.

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:02 pm

Hopefully she tweeted this after the IEDs were confirmed.

Whatever, man.

At a BLM protest here at the end of May, four guys burned a SLC police car.

I am not okay with that being considered terrorism. If you are, good for you.

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:02 pm So they're bringing all the reps and senators to Ft Mcnair, shouldn't they certify the election there? I don't believe there's anything that requires it to happen in the Capitol.

A lot of Trump supporting Electeds, let alone the rest, are very pissed. They are saying they are going to get this done tonight.

My sister who works for Senator Hirono has been locked in a bathroom with a couple of other staffers since this started.

They're fine, but a whole lot more than a little upset.