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Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:26 pm
by brian
A_B wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:55 pm
sancarlos wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:42 pm
brian wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:37 pm Say what you want about Stafford but he would be an enticing piece to build around for a team with a window of 3-5 years. I really hope he gets a chance to win a title somewhere else as long as the Lions get an elite college QB or a potential cornerstone like Watson.
I can see what you're saying, but I have a hard time believing Jacksonville is that place for him. And, given the nasty injuries he's suffered, I kind of doubt he has 4 years left in him.

Fwiw, some of the media have been floating the idea of him coming to the Broncos. That probably isn't an ideal landing spot for Stafford, either.
He's only missed 8 games in the past 10 seasons, and they were all last season. And they didn't play him in a couple because they sucked, right?
He’s insanely tough. I wouldn’t worry about that part. I’m hoping that it’s Houston that wants him anyway.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:33 pm
by Brontoburglar
if Houston trades Deshaun Watson, they're going to go full rebuild

Pittsburgh/New England would seem to be the most logical AFC destinations if Stafford is moved/leaves Detroit

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:12 pm
by mister d
If Stafford got a career restart 10x, how many of those 10 Staffords win a super bowl? He seems like he was really good with never good enough support.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:18 pm
by brian
mister d wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:12 pm If Stafford got a career restart 10x, how many of those 10 Staffords win a super bowl? He seems like he was really good with never good enough support.
Good question though so much in the NFL depends on stuff outside QB control. Brees only has 1 SB, Rodgers too. Rivers was good enough to win some with right surrounding crew. Stafford is still surprisingly young too. 32 or 33 IIRC. Not unreasonable to expect prime performance for another 3-4 years at least. In right situation he could absolutely win a title.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:37 am
by Pruitt
Saleh to the Jets

Seems like a smart choice. But it's the Jets, so you never know...

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:33 am
by Brontoburglar
brian wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:18 pm
mister d wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:12 pm If Stafford got a career restart 10x, how many of those 10 Staffords win a super bowl? He seems like he was really good with never good enough support.
Good question though so much in the NFL depends on stuff outside QB control. Brees only has 1 SB, Rodgers too. Rivers was good enough to win some with right surrounding crew. Stafford is still surprisingly young too. 32 or 33 IIRC. Not unreasonable to expect prime performance for another 3-4 years at least. In right situation he could absolutely win a title.
The more I thought about it, the more Pittsburgh made a ton of sense ... until I realized that the dead cap on Ben's contract is $22M if he's cut. I knew his cap figure was north of $40M if they kept him but man, he has a ton of leverage in a renegotiation if he wants to keep playing.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:57 pm
by sancarlos

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:55 pm
by sancarlos

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:42 pm
by A_B
San Carlos a huge Campbell Stan.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:08 am
by brian
I’m glad someone is excited by the hire.

(I don’t have an issue with it per se, but because it’s the Lions I just automatically assume it’s doomed to fail. At least if it was a “hot assistant” like Bieniemy I could get my hopes up a little.).

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:08 pm
by sancarlos
I’ve never heard of him. Just thought it was worth noting.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:09 pm
by Rams Fanny
brian wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:08 am I’m glad someone is excited by the hire.

(I don’t have an issue with it per se, but because it’s the Lions I just automatically assume it’s doomed to fail. At least if it was a “hot assistant” like Bieniemy I could get my hopes up a little.).
His first act last time as HC was to install the Oklahoma Drill. He seems nice.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:32 pm
by EdRomero
Josh McDaniels to the Eagles rumors are heating up. Looking for a Wentz fixer

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:46 pm
by mister d
Eagles fans I know range from "no" to "I might take next year off" on that one.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:42 pm
by tennbengal
I want this so badly, just for the Danny Kelly and Mina Kimes reactions...


Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:45 pm
by sancarlos
I’m no expert, but it appears to me that what they really need is not a coach but a better pass-blocking offensive line.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:55 pm
by The Sybian
sancarlos wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:45 pm I’m no expert, but it appears to me that what they really need is not a coach but a better pass-blocking offensive line.
I'm no expert, but Adam Gase ain't fixin' shit. He is the worst play caller ever, and pretty terrible at every other facet of coaching.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:12 pm
by Reaper
mister d wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:46 pm Eagles fans I know range from "no" to "I might take next year off" on that one.
Yep. That's where I'm standing.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:54 pm
by L-Jam3
Reaper wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:12 pm
mister d wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:46 pm Eagles fans I know range from "no" to "I might take next year off" on that one.
Yep. That's where I'm standing.
I’m taking a serious look at how to lower my LDL, because it’s going to be at least 40 years before they win it all again.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:50 pm
by Rush2112
EdRomero wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:32 pm Josh McDaniels to the Eagles rumors are heating up. Looking for a Wentz fixer
I know Josh is a well-respected play-caller, but I feel like the team could use some new blood at OC. Not sure who they have in-house due to the losses of the notoriously thin staff the Pats typically have, maybe a retread OC (O'Shea, Weiss, etc,) and can a team still block lateral moves of assistants? Like they couldn't talk Bienemy to going from an elite offence to one devoid of skill talent, could they?

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:47 am
by mister d
I think if you were trying to make sure your superstar QB was eligible to play in the conference title game, you'd do anything possible to spin the narrative away from concussion as quickly as possible. Not saying the choke-out explanation isn't legit, it might be, but it should be viewed with a lot of skepticism.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:55 am
by A_B
Bourbon.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:58 am
by The Sybian
mister d wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:47 am I think if you were trying to make sure your superstar QB was eligible to play in the conference title game, you'd do anything possible to spin the narrative away from concussion as quickly as possible. Not saying the choke-out explanation isn't legit, it might be, but it should be viewed with a lot of skepticism.
Is this some more deep-dive meta humor making fun of me for posting in the wrong thread?

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:27 am
by mister d
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Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:56 pm
by Ryan
Loved him as the redhead kid in my kindergarten class whose family ran the local golf course. Ethan.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:51 am
by Rex


He'll be only the third Hall of Famer drafted by the Giants since 1980.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:55 am
by brian
Just imagine how many more kids he'll have after being around the house full-time

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:29 am
by tennbengal
He always irritated me, but this is pretty good...


Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:59 am
by DSafetyGuy
This one followed shortly after in my feed:


Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:40 pm
by Ryan

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:49 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Six-year contract for shit like this:
“We’re going to kick you in the teeth, all right?” Campbell told reporters. “And when you punch us back, we’re going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we’re going to get back up and on the way up, we’re going to bite a kneecap off, all right? And then it’s going to take us two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we’re going to take your other kneecap. … Before long, we’re going to be the last one standing.”
I'll be surprised if this lasts over four full seasons.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:53 pm
by Sabo
DSafetyGuy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:49 pm Six-year contract for shit like this:
“We’re going to kick you in the teeth, all right?” Campbell told reporters. “And when you punch us back, we’re going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we’re going to get back up and on the way up, we’re going to bite a kneecap off, all right? And then it’s going to take us two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we’re going to take your other kneecap. … Before long, we’re going to be the last one standing.”
I'll be surprised if this lasts over four full seasons.
This sounds like something Gregggggggg Williams would say.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:11 pm
by sancarlos
I'm sure hiring Trent Baalke as GM in Jacksonville will work out great. Maybe he's not an egotist any more.
The Athletic wrote:The Meyer-Baalke dynamic. It's an interesting pairing considering Baalke had his best success in San Francisco with a good college coach in Jim Harbaugh and then had the relationship fall apart over a power struggle. Harbaugh took the 49ers from a 6-10 season in 2010 to three NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl appearance in the 2012 season. After Harbaugh left for Michigan following an 8-8 season in 2014, the 49ers went 5-11 and 2-14 with Jim Tomsula and Chip Kelly before Baalke was fired.
Can't wait for a couple years from now when his daughter starts shit-tweeting Meyer and the OC like she did in SF.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:16 pm
by serrano
DSafetyGuy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:49 pm Six-year contract for shit like this:
“We’re going to kick you in the teeth, all right?” Campbell told reporters. “And when you punch us back, we’re going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we’re going to get back up and on the way up, we’re going to bite a kneecap off, all right? And then it’s going to take us two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we’re going to take your other kneecap. … Before long, we’re going to be the last one standing.”
I'll be surprised if this lasts over four full seasons.
This aggression will not stand, man.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:24 pm
by brian
DSafetyGuy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:49 pm Six-year contract for shit like this:
“We’re going to kick you in the teeth, all right?” Campbell told reporters. “And when you punch us back, we’re going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we’re going to get back up and on the way up, we’re going to bite a kneecap off, all right? And then it’s going to take us two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we’re going to take your other kneecap. … Before long, we’re going to be the last one standing.”
I'll be surprised if this lasts over four full seasons.
The Lions have had one HC last more than 4 seasons (Jim Schwartz, 5) since Barry Sanders retired so that's a safe bet regardless.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:59 pm
by Gunpowder
What in the intergalactic fuck

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:01 pm
by Sabo
Gunpowder wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:59 pm What in the intergalactic fuck
For what? Haskins? Hue? The thought of Hue Jackson being the OC in Pittsburgh makes me laugh.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:04 pm
by Gunpowder
Sabo wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:01 pm
Gunpowder wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:59 pm What in the intergalactic fuck
For what? Haskins? Hue? The thought of Hue Jackson being the OC in Pittsburgh makes me laugh.
Dan Campbell. Haskins is a no-risk flyer, Hue is scary but after the parade of shittiness at the coordinator spots I'm numb to it.

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:09 pm
by mister d
Anyone reach out to Mike Utley for comment?

Re: 2021 NFL Black Sunday Night, Etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:27 pm
by Pruitt
Ryan wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:40 pm
You don't give yourself a nickname. That's just bogus.