To the extent it comes up: Trump crap post-WH years

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed May 19, 2021 9:40 pm

I happened to watch that episode of Klepper's show the other day and was pleasantly surprised to see him being interviewed.

I remember that day at Kirtland AFB too. It was my birthday when Mango Mussolini decided to go to Rio Rancho and give a speech to his fucking cult followers. The entire base and the city shut down. Highways cleared, chopper support, everything. The one cool thing was that I got to help load the C-17 that had the Beast limos. That was neat.

But Tim Keller is awesome. And since he kinda looks like Erik Eckhart, his Halloween costume every year is Two Face.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue May 25, 2021 10:57 am

You guys with all your fancy music festivals....well, here's the only one that matters!

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue May 25, 2021 12:34 pm

Can I sue these bastards over misappropriating my name? (Frank)

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue May 25, 2021 1:48 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:34 pm Can I sue these bastards over misappropriating my name? (Frank)

Yes...yes you can.

I don't know what is the more disturbing thing on that poster...the 'no coolers'? (In Wisconsin? Are you kidding me?). That 'Sheriff' Clarke still goes by 'Sheriff', even though he hasn't been an actual Sheriff in years? That Diamond and Silk are still a thing?

Or...is it that Dinesh D'Souza has a daughter who's taking over the family business of being a conservative Maga-Grifter? And did you know...according to the Google machine, she's actually got acting credits to her name? And they are all from her being in her father's insane conspiracy theory movies?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 25, 2021 1:53 pm

Pretty sure "no coolers" is the entire grift here.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Tue May 25, 2021 1:58 pm

I'm still enjoying that Pru had to clarify that his name isn't 'Maga'.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue May 25, 2021 2:30 pm

Good lord. How much self-loathing would one need to fuck Dinesh D'Souza?

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue May 25, 2021 3:24 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:30 pm Good lord. How much self-loathing would one need to fuck Dinesh D'Souza?

Ask Laura Ingraham or Ann Coulter (he dated both of them...not at the same time, I hope)

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue May 25, 2021 3:38 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:24 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:30 pm Good lord. How much self-loathing would one need to fuck Dinesh D'Souza?
Ask Laura Ingraham or Ann Coulter (he dated both of them...not at the same time, I hope)

I'm going to assume several forms of birth control were used to keep things "pure".

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 25, 2021 3:47 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue May 25, 2021 8:39 pm

Not getting my hopes up.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:24 am

That Trump-blog that was going to be such a game-changer?

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:40 am

Guess the free trial period is up

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:14 pm

Baloney wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:40 am Guess the free trial period is up

How times change...

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:30 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:50 am

In the book, Bender reports that Trump wanted Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to take charge of a “scorched-earth military campaign” to squash the protests. In the White House’s Situation Room, Milley reportedly told Trump that he legally couldn’t take charge of the strategy, causing Trump to scream: “I said you’re in fucking charge!” Milley then shouted back: “Well, I’m not in charge!” Trump then bellowed: “You can’t fucking talk to me like that!” An exasperated Milley then appealed to others at the meeting: “Goddamnit... There’s a room full of lawyers here. Will someone inform him of my legal responsibilities?” Then-Attorney General Bill Barr reportedly told Trump that Milley was correct.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:57 am

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:38 am

I'm a little pessimistic much will come out of this. The hope was Weisselberg would flip when they threatened him and potentially his son with criminal charges. While the media has been going nuts with this, I've heard several former prosecutors saying the charges against Weisselberg could likely carry very minimal sentences, potentially less than a year, and Trump has leverage and could do much worse to him. Unless Trump or his kids are behind bars, the base will chalk this up as a with hunt. Fuck, even if Trump and this kids are all behind bars they will say its proof of a witch hunt. Not sure the base matters anymore, but I do still fear Trump maintains support and runs again in 2024. I'd say it wasn't likely, but the odds of him winning in 2016 were much lower, and I don't put anything past his cult. As for the Trump Org, you can't do much against a corp criminally, and he can probably form a new corporation and get around most of the sanctions.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:51 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:38 am I'm a little pessimistic much will come out of this. The hope was Weisselberg would flip when they threatened him and potentially his son with criminal charges. While the media has been going nuts with this, I've heard several former prosecutors saying the charges against Weisselberg could likely carry very minimal sentences, potentially less than a year, and Trump has leverage and could do much worse to him. Unless Trump or his kids are behind bars, the base will chalk this up as a with hunt. Fuck, even if Trump and this kids are all behind bars they will say its proof of a witch hunt. Not sure the base matters anymore, but I do still fear Trump maintains support and runs again in 2024. I'd say it wasn't likely, but the odds of him winning in 2016 were much lower, and I don't put anything past his cult. As for the Trump Org, you can't do much against a corp criminally, and he can probably form a new corporation and get around most of the sanctions.

So, don't prosecute crimes?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:11 am

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:51 am
The Sybian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:38 am I'm a little pessimistic much will come out of this. The hope was Weisselberg would flip when they threatened him and potentially his son with criminal charges. While the media has been going nuts with this, I've heard several former prosecutors saying the charges against Weisselberg could likely carry very minimal sentences, potentially less than a year, and Trump has leverage and could do much worse to him. Unless Trump or his kids are behind bars, the base will chalk this up as a with hunt. Fuck, even if Trump and this kids are all behind bars they will say its proof of a witch hunt. Not sure the base matters anymore, but I do still fear Trump maintains support and runs again in 2024. I'd say it wasn't likely, but the odds of him winning in 2016 were much lower, and I don't put anything past his cult. As for the Trump Org, you can't do much against a corp criminally, and he can probably form a new corporation and get around most of the sanctions.
So, don't prosecute crimes?

Of course they should prosecute this, I'm just tempering expectations. I've seen a lot in the media touting this as finally bringing Trump down, the beginning of the end, Ivanka committed perjury and will be indicted next... Fuck, I'd love for any of that to come true, but I think the result here is likely Weisselberg serving 6 months, and some sanctions against the corporation that Trump weasels his way out of virtually unscathed.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:23 am

He'll claim ignorance and throw whoever under the bus he needs to throw. Because that's what truly great leaders do: they have no idea what's going on in their companies and people are expendable.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:51 pm

I with Syb on this one. I feel like if you've been investigating Trump and all you are showing so far is that they didn't pay taxes on $1.7MM, then either (a) you did a really shitty investigation, or (b) Trump hid his crimes really, really well. And I don't see (b) being the case because Trump's a fucking moron.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:14 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:51 pm I with Syb on this one. I feel like if you've been investigating Trump and all you are showing so far is that they didn't pay taxes on $1.7MM, then either (a) you did a really shitty investigation, or (b) Trump hid his crimes really, really well. And I don't see (b) being the case because Trump's a fucking moron.

My understanding is that there is a fuckton of easy to identify crimes, but they have to prove state of mind, that Trump KNEW he was violating the law. The problem with Trump is that he doesn't use email, so nothing is in writing, and he uses the mafia speak to avoid showing knowledge. As stupid and transparent as it is, prosecutors can't prove knowledge beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecutors wanted to scare Weisselberg into providing evidence of Trump's knowledge, but he refused to cave. I hate that so many people show loyalty to Trump when they have to know he has no capacity to loyalty for anyone else. Yet he manages to fool everyone into thinking he will somehow be loyal to them despite his history.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:54 am

I am feeling a way about this:

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:27 am

Knock me over with a feather.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:24 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:27 am Knock me over with a feather.

I mean...(mentally bumps a fuckton of posts from you and me back in October - December of 2016 etc).

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:42 am

It's the old double cross to the double cross, though!

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:04 am

Maybe this will be what sinks him.

Post by **brian** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:21 am

Wonder what Nate thinks of this. He kind of disappeared somehow after Trump lost. Weird.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:05 am

Looks like tomorrow is the 4 month anniversary of his last post : (

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:13 am

If you had any inkling of the power of weaponized misinformation (and how social media was ripe for exploitation), the bad actors on the cyber warfare front(s), then 2016 was at best a mild surprise...but it should always have been met with a "what took you so long."

Post by **brian** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:19 am

Don't imagine we're gonna get any mea culpa's from JoeK either.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:22 am

brian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:19 am Don't imagine we're gonna get any mea culpa's from JoeK either.

Nope.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:15 pm

Pretty sure Nate left because of all the (deserved) shit he was taking, not because Trump won. Don’t miss him.

I’m more surprised that JoeK left. I thought he added some worthwhile input to our conversations.

ETA: Big oops! I meant because Trump LOST!

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:17 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:15 pm Pretty sure Nate left because of all the (deserved) shit he was taking, not because Trump won. Don’t miss him.

I’m more surprised that JoeK left. I thought he added some worthwhile input to our conversations.

#BigLie

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:20 pm

Oh, fuck!

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:37 pm

I just cannot believe for the life of me how hard lefties like Kulinski and Ball call the Russia collusion a hoax and use Taibbi to prove it.

And not for nothing, and I'll always bring this up, on the 4th of July in 2018 8 Republican Senators went to Russia for some dumb reason.

And then shortly afterward, Rand Paul went to Russia too.

I just don't get it. Who the hell in the government, now that we have a better one, is in charge of investigating this? I'll get scrutinized if I'm not getting security briefings going on foreign travel, but yet....

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:44 pm

Far greater fear of action than inaction + lots of people they consider buddies on the other side = No ramifications

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:24 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:24 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:27 am Knock me over with a feather.
I mean...(mentally bumps a fuckton of posts from you and me back in October - December of 2016 etc).

I had to check out of a lot that... it was becoming maddening.

Occam's razor and all that...

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:27 pm

brian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:19 am Don't imagine we're gonna get any mea culpa's from JoeK either.

Smart guy, which was the maddening part.