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New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm
by wlu_lax6
So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:36 pm
by EdRomero
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
That's similar to a game elementary students play. It's good because it encourages more participation.

I would have loved watching the 2004 Red Sox outfield mess it up.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:44 pm
by mister d
Even if the next bulletpoint were "team that punches Mister D's parents the most gets 1st overall pick", I couldn't hate these proposals any more than I do now.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:44 pm
by BSF21
EdRomero wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:36 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
That's similar to a game elementary students play. It's good because it encourages more participation.

I would have loved watching the 2004 Red Sox outfield mess it up.
“And Ramirez is nowhere to be found. Another inside the park walk for the Orioles!”

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:48 pm
by Steve of phpBB
I am kinda intrigued by the match play concept.

Though if you have to play until someone wins five innings, that could lead to a lot of longer games if there are a lot of tied innings.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:49 pm
by A_B
mister d wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:44 pm Even if the next bulletpoint were "team that punches Mister D's parents the most gets 1st overall pick", I couldn't hate these proposals any more than I do now.
Blame Manfred for teams having to get creative.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:50 pm
by mister d
Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:48 pmThough if you have to play until someone wins five innings, that could lead to a lot of longer games if there are a lot of tied innings.
The home team would be repeatedly playing for the tie if they went down one. It would be awful.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:55 pm
by Steve of phpBB
mister d wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:50 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:48 pmThough if you have to play until someone wins five innings, that could lead to a lot of longer games if there are a lot of tied innings.
The home team would be repeatedly playing for the tie if they went down one. It would be awful.
Hm. I wonder how that would play out in reality. In extra-inning games, have you noticed a difference in the way the game is played when the visiting team scores one in the top of the inning? (Or in the ninth inning of a game where the home team is down by one.) I assume there are more sacrifice bunts in those situations, but do we know if that's true?

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:06 pm
by mister d
Do we ever!

SH per 1,000 PA (2016-2020):
1st inning: 1.3
2nd inning: 6.1
3rd inning: 7.2
4th inning: 4.7
5th inning: 5.8
6th inning: 3.4
7th inning: 4.2
8th inning: 3.2
9th inning: 3.1
Ext inning: 14.0

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:07 pm
by mister d
I wish I could break this out by position player only. The peaks in the 2nd, 3rd and 5th would indicate its pitchers doing a lot of the bunting pre-extras.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:21 pm
by Ryan
Here's a perfectly formatted list of the total position player bunt attempts by inning for 2010-2020. If I didn't give up on plate appearances loading after 2 minutes, we could get the percentage.

1
953
2
2533
3
3142
4
2069
5
2831
6
1819
7
2109
8
1778
9
1306
10+
1079

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:55 pm
by wlu_lax6
I would take no stepping out of the box, no visits to the mound, and just for giggle foul ball catches for outs ("Give that fan a contract" at O's games would be a bit more meaningful...)

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:59 pm
by Ryan
Stephen King would lead the league in putouts

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:07 pm
by mister d
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:55 pmI would take no stepping out of the box, no visits to the mound
I like both of these in theory but you'd have to have exceptions (injuries, bugs flying in eyes, shit like that) and then you'd have to manage the teams that take advantage of the exceptions.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:02 pm
by The Sybian
Might as well cut to the chase and just end baseball altogether.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:14 pm
by wlu_lax6
The Sybian wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:02 pm Might as well cut to the chase and just end baseball altogether.
Manfred is trying his hardest.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:38 pm
by sancarlos
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307
Interesting, but it’s a different game than baseball so give it a different name.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:41 pm
by wlu_lax6
sancarlos wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:38 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307
Interesting, but it’s a different game than baseball so give it a different name.
Cricket?

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:56 pm
by bfj
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:55 pm I would take no stepping out of the box, no visits to the mound, and just for giggle foul ball catches for outs ("Give that fan a contract" at O's games would be a bit more meaningful...)
Ah, the late great Rex Barney. I once heard him announce (near the end of his career) “batting 3rd, third base, #8, Cal...Smith.” I was sitting behind the plate and Cal just turned around and stared up where Rex sat and smiled.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:00 pm
by The Sybian
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:14 pm
The Sybian wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:02 pm Might as well cut to the chase and just end baseball altogether.
Manfred is trying his hardest.
Good for him. It's about time someone did something. Is he the Commish? What has he done? I assume he has nothing to do with the Bananas rules.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:24 am
by Nonlinear FC
And... Here's what it looks like.


Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:34 am
by Nonlinear FC
Actually, while I love the Jomboy guys, skip to around the 12 minute mark for actual game play. The advancing on a walk is hilarious and fun.

/notbaseball

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:52 am
by The Sybian
I'm confused, are they playing in a league with these rules, or playing separate exhibitions for fun? I see they are in the Coastal League. So confused, but they got my attention and I saw they sold out every game between 2017-2019, and I can't imagine many minor league teams can say that.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:57 am
by wlu_lax6
The Sybian wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:52 am I'm confused, are they playing in a league with these rules, or playing separate exhibitions for fun? I see they are in the Coastal League. So confused, but they got my attention and I saw they sold out every game between 2017-2019, and I can't imagine many minor league teams can say that.
This is a 4 game series where they are trying some things out

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:06 am
by Sabo
The Sybian wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:52 am I'm confused, are they playing in a league with these rules, or playing separate exhibitions for fun? I see they are in the Coastal League. So confused, but they got my attention and I saw they sold out every game between 2017-2019, and I can't imagine many minor league teams can say that.
Every Dayton Dragons home game has been a sell out since they were founded in 2000.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:03 am
by The Sybian
wlu_lax6 wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:57 am
The Sybian wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:52 am I'm confused, are they playing in a league with these rules, or playing separate exhibitions for fun? I see they are in the Coastal League. So confused, but they got my attention and I saw they sold out every game between 2017-2019, and I can't imagine many minor league teams can say that.
This is a 4 game series where they are trying some things out
Oh, that's fun! I'm all for this. Anything that brings in fans and attention has to be good.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:36 pm
by Johnnie
Didn't see a baseball thread.

MLB.TV is today's T-Mobile Tuesday giveaway. Sprint members are included since T-Mobile owns them now.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:54 am
by A_B
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:37 am
by Giff
That is great.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:08 am
by wlu_lax6
I hope that guy got on base. That is a whole lot of show to ground out or take a pitch for a called 3rd strike.

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:40 am
by rass
A_B wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:54 am
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307

Re: New Baseball Rules

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:18 am
by Nonlinear FC
I'm gonna be down there this weekend and I'm really bummed that it's impossible to get tickets. I might still try and buy some merch. (My mom grew up down there, so I have a thin bond with the city to begin with.)