The Swamp

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:52 pm Without reading that thread first, can I say that Schefter isn't a journalist and treating him as one is kinda silly?

Yeah, all he does is just act as a sort of outsourced PR for the league. Do people confuse that with journalism?

Rex wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:30 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:52 pm Without reading that thread first, can I say that Schefter isn't a journalist and treating him as one is kinda silly?

Yeah, all he does is just act as a sort of outsourced PR for the league. Do people confuse that with journalism?

Yes, yes they do.

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:52 pm Without reading that thread first, can I say that Schefter isn't a journalist and treating him as one is kinda silly?

Just add Woj and Shams and probably Passan and anyone else ESPN uses as their "news breaker for a specific sports league".

At the same time, most people don't know the difference between a journalist and a glorified PR person.

I don’t pearl clutch about those guys. The leagues prefer to announce injuries, coaching changes, etc. through a a guy in a shiny suit rather than a press release. The networks are happy to employ them because it brings attention to them. Good for them for going out and getting that gig. Just weird that anyone would confuse that with journalism.

The gray area is caused by someone like Schefter sitting in on a studio show like "Sportscenter" or "NFL Live" and being introduced as "an insider" chiming in with his report of "breaking news" combined with many/most people not being able to discern the difference between actual sourced reporting and Schefter announcing that some player will be downgraded to "out" on tomorrow's injury report because some executive texted him that info and the team isn't interested in the gamesmanship angle of acting like their second WR who couldn't walk off the field under his own power last Sunday is going to be good to go in four days.

If everything is fully leaked, it would be interesting to find the differences between the story he sent Allen and the story that was eventually published.

“Should have” crossed out and replaced with “should of”

Today's semi-interesting factoid of the day is that the last time the Lions defeated the Bengals at home was...in 1970...in the first game ever between the two teams. Last time the Lions defeated the Bengals anywhere was 1992.

I don't like having conspiracy theory thoughts, but...

Monday night, the NFL sacrifices Gruden, one of the most public faces of the league who is not protected by the players union, due to his emails from the Washington legal case (when he wasn't a team employee).

Wednesday, the NFL throws a very prominent NFL media member under the bus, also for his email discovered in the Washington legal case. Certainly could be seen as a veiled threat to other media members who cover the league.

Friday late afternoon, the NFL announces their "nothing else to see in the 650,000 emails" news dump.

....and the entire thing started because of an investigation into Washington's abhorrent treatment of cheerleaders. It couldn't be just Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden involved in that. That's a fuckton of emails.

brian wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:42 am Today's semi-interesting factoid of the day is that the last time the Lions defeated the Bengals at home was...in 1970...in the first game ever between the two teams. Last time the Lions defeated the Bengals anywhere was 1992.

Well, try again in 4 years....

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:48 am
Wednesday, the NFL throws a very prominent NFL media member under the bus, also for his email discovered in the Washington legal case. Certainly could be seen as a veiled threat to other media members who cover the league.

I don't think this was an NFL leak but rather part of Snyder's court filing over the summer and was discovered via that filing post-Gruden emails.

This thread about the hastily scheduled Jersey retirement for Sean Taylor by the WFT is something else.

50 years ago tomorrow, an NFL player died on the field -- the only time in the league's history that's ever happened. It was a Detroit Lion, of course.

This marketing arrangement is great.

Make Renting Cars Great Again LOL love you touchdown Tom!

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:27 amAnd all they do is run short routes and get tackled after making the catch. Well, Perriman will do that once he's up to speed (ha ha) and active for games.

Cut after never being on the active roster for a game.

pruitt2 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:11 pm Florio Vs. Schefter

Schefter was also hammered today in a Defector piece.

Florio’s a self-righteous prick but he’s not wrong.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:23 pm

pruitt2 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:11 pm Florio Vs. Schefter

Schefter was also hammered today in a Defector piece.

Just pure direct goodness in that piece. Caught me up and filled me in on just how scum-eating Schefter is at the moment (and always has been I suppose).

so close Josh Reynolds...

tennbengal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:00 pmCaught me up and filled me in on just how scum-eating Schefter is at the moment (and always has been I suppose).

Got into it with a friend in a "that's just his job" versus "he chooses to do that job" morality debate yesterday. Naturally, I won, keeping my argument win percentage at a perfect 100%.

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:49 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:00 pmCaught me up and filled me in on just how scum-eating Schefter is at the moment (and always has been I suppose).

Got into it with a friend in a "that's just his job" versus "he chooses to do that job" morality debate yesterday. Naturally, I won, keeping my argument win percentage at a perfect 100%.

If victim blaming is part of the job description, it's a shit job.

Speaking of reunions...



Carolina is paying the Bridgewater, Darnold, Newton triumvirate a combined $40 million, btw.

Yup. To put this into some incompetence context...

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:44 am so close Josh Reynolds...

Rams appear close to upgrading from Josh Reynolds

They should sent their fourth-rounder in 2022 to Cleveland just for the hell of it.

Can't wait for them to lose their next three games and then OBJ's dad says Strafford drinks his own pee.

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:42 pm Can't wait for them to lose their next three games and then OBJ's dad says Strafford drinks his own pee.

To the reading comprehension impaired this is a lot funnier.

I wonder what percentage of people outraged at Ruggs' shithead "the firefighters were slow arriving" defense cheerlead Rittenhouse's shithead "I (17, illegal gun) just wanted to provide security assistance" defense.

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:42 pm Can't wait for them to lose their next three games and then OBJ's dad says Strafford drinks his own pee.

Braylon Edwards 2.0

More like VeteRAMs day, am I right?

Rex wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:26 pm More like VeteRAMs day, am I right?

Thank you for your service-able players

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:13 am

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:12 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:01 pm Belichick doesn’t miss often when he lets a young guy walk, but oh man he was wrong with Chandler Jones:

Jones wasn't going to get paid by the Pats. They knew he was good, but were gonna let someone else pay for him. I don't watch him with the Cards, but he used to give up plays because he was trying to get a sack on every play.

(Plus he got so fucked up on synthetic pot he turned himself in...before a playoff game.)

He's been the best pass rusher in the NFL over the past five years.

Pretty concerning turn this season

“Y’all don’t know what Josh McDaniels really did to Aaron Hernandez. … Y’all thought Aaron Hernandez killed himself in jail,” Jones said, breaking down and then cutting off the stream.

Chandler Jones is dealing with some serious shit right now and I hope he gets help, yet is there any coach worse in the NFL to have in terms of people skills to have to work with a problem like this than McDaniels?

It's impressive how little McDaniel's learned from his few years burning down the Broncos.

rass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:47 am

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:13 am

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:12 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:01 pm Belichick doesn’t miss often when he lets a young guy walk, but oh man he was wrong with Chandler Jones:

Jones wasn't going to get paid by the Pats. They knew he was good, but were gonna let someone else pay for him. I don't watch him with the Cards, but he used to give up plays because he was trying to get a sack on every play.

(Plus he got so fucked up on synthetic pot he turned himself in...before a playoff game.)

He's been the best pass rusher in the NFL over the past five years.

Pretty concerning turn this season

“Y’all don’t know what Josh McDaniels really did to Aaron Hernandez. … Y’all thought Aaron Hernandez killed himself in jail,” Jones said, breaking down and then cutting off the stream.

wtf, just saw this. Holy hell.