The Swamp

Roethlisberger might be the most improved player in terms of how much better he looks in Fox comic book view vs real life. He has a little smile and a twinkle in his eye. Arms are bulging, twice the size of comic book Kirk Cousins.

Oh crap, and the wedding ring!

Kickers are so bad now because the kids in the mid-2000s who would have become good kickers chose another sport due to CTE. Discuss.

Troy “holes” count over a dozen at this point.

Troy "Adriana Chechik" Aikmen.

Rex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:54 pm Kickers are so bad now because the kids in the mid-2000s who would have become good kickers chose another sport due to CTE. Discuss.

median FG% in 2001: 79.3%

median FG% in 2006: 82.9%

median FG% in 2011: 83.3%

median FG% in 2016: 85.3%

median FG% in 2021: 85.7%

*among qualified kickers (so basically 16th every year)

Yeah. I'm old enough to remember when a guy making a 50 yard field goal was a fairly big deal.

Punting is similar. Guys like Ray Guy were seen as thunder legs. His gross average was 42.4 and his net average was 33.8. Nowadays, just about every single punter averages better than he did.

I think we reached peak kicking about 4-5 years ago, when it felt like every team had a guy banging 55 yarders all the time. All of the external conditions affecting kicking have been constantly improving: more indoor games, more turf fields, special balls, better training, more professionalism in youth development, and it goes on. So it’s no surprise that numbers have gone up over a 20 year frame. At some point it will start going down, and I say it’s now.

Also, you should know by now never to take one of my posts at face value. This is not about kickers. It’s just easier to see declines in kicking than it is in, say, offensive guard play.

Rex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:29 pm Also, you should know by now never to take one of my posts at face value. This is not about kickers. It’s just easier to see declines in kicking than it is in, say, offensive guard play.

oh i know -- and I was going to point out in that post that I think we're at the peak of kicking. I'm not sure it's gonna get any better (or how it can get better) unless they clone Justin Tucker

Man, Kirk Cousins is extremely frustrating to watch. So many passes are to random areas of the turf where there's nobody. Or he throws into coverage. Or he overthrows needlessly.

I don't like that.

Chase Claypool made a great catch on 4th and 1 to continue the drive. The Steelers have no time outs and they are in the hurry up. Dude has to flex and signal 1st down after he gets tackled instead of getting the referee the ball. They lost several seconds. That was a bonehead move.

Overall, that game got exciting because Zimmer and Cousins are fucking dumb.

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It was actually a bit more than several.



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Bruh.

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:32 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:29 pm Also, you should know by now never to take one of my posts at face value. This is not about kickers. It’s just easier to see declines in kicking than it is in, say, offensive guard play.

oh i know -- and I was going to point out in that post that I think we're at the peak of kicking. I'm not sure it's gonna get any better (or how it can get better) unless they clone Justin Tucker

Tucker's got job security to age 50.

I do wonder if we'll see a hiccup in kicking stats now that more coaches go for it on 4th down. I guess it matters where they go for it. If it's in the green zone then you'll have fewer long FGs and better averages. If it's in the red zone then the numbers go down.

Tension boiling over between coach Urban Meyer, Jaguars players, staff amid 2-10 start

That’s some real servant leadership right there.

"I'm a winner but you, my assistants, suck" is really, really funny.

Hey, Bernie Parmalee!

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:06 pm Hey, Bernie Parmalee!

I said the same thing. One of my favorite college players.

Also can't believe literally everyone didn't see this coming. Makes you wonder how some of these guys like Shad Khan made so much money. The ones who inherited it like Mark Davis, I get them being stupid. The guys who had to work for it -- that puzzles me a lot more.

This is all hook it up to my veins delightful.

brian wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:10 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:06 pm Hey, Bernie Parmalee!

I said the same thing. One of my favorite college players.

Also can't believe literally everyone didn't see this coming. Makes you wonder how some of these guys like Shad Khan made so much money. The ones who inherited it like Mark Davis, I get them being stupid. The guys who had to work for it -- that puzzles me a lot more.

They were smart in regular business. Sports are not that. A better comparison to a business magnate would be someone working their way up through football (playing, coaching, front office) owning a team.

mister d wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:38 pm "I'm a winner but you, my assistants, suck" is really, really funny.

Isn't it the coach who hires the assistants?

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:06 pm Hey, Bernie Parmalee!

He may be one of the few BSU Cardinal that I remember.

Dallas traveled with their own heated sideline benches because word is that the visitor benches in DC suck.

I need a hug.

rass wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:25 pm Dallas traveled with their own heated sideline benches because word is that the visitor benches in DC suck.

Sounds Dan Snyder

If swamp curses still exist this game ends on a Tucker miss

Dallas is going to win the NFC East because someone has to, but they are not a good team.

These Brady runs are kinda inspiring, but he’s going to get hurt doing this. They don’t need this game that badly.

This Bills game is almost physically painful to watch.

The Denver 10 man play was a class act and the Detroit response was really nice...

I’m impressed that the Bills are finishing well coming off of a short week in the Florida shitmidity. This is pretty encouraging for them.

Bengals just got screwed on a fumble recovery with less than a minute remaining. I don’t give a fuck what Gene Steratore says.

The Bengals and 49ers in a pitched battle and the Bills needing a field goal in Tampa. Giving off some serious Bush 41 era vibes

The Bills and Bengals lost, the Soviet Union is still dead, and Don’t Worry Be Happy still slaps.

Sabo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:23 pm Bengals just got screwed on a fumble recovery with less than a minute remaining. I don’t give a fuck what Gene Steratore says.

Nice to hear from a neutral.

Zac Taylor really owns this loss otherwise. Shackles burrow until too late. Dumb mistakes and bad play calling.

Rex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:25 pm The Bengals and 49ers in a pitched battle and the Bills needing a field goal in Tampa. Giving off some serious Bush 41 era vibes

The officiating at the end of that game was horrendous. Diggs was grabbed twice (on third in regulation and on third in OT) and should've been easy holding penalties at a minimum. Then Evans pulls a defender on top of himself and get a DPI in OT because... well, I guess because he's teammates with Brady and Diggs isn't. I don't know. It's just so uneven.

Rex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:17 pm I’m impressed that the Bills are finishing well coming off of a short week in the Florida shitmidity. This is pretty encouraging for them.

The shitmidity has been horrendous this week too. Just disgusting weather.

This is one of the most entertaining football games I’ve ever seen. Where did this come from?

Rex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:29 pm This is one of the most entertaining football games I’ve ever seen. Where did this come from?

What happened after this post?