The OFFICIAL 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:52 am

Season is over for one team, so we're underway!

That puts a talented defensive coach on the market.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:15 am

I’m pretty sure a decent QB audibles out of the play that caused Melvin Gordon to fumble. I mean, they were winning, 21-20 and at the Chiefs’ 9 yard line midway through the 4th. Had they scored a TD there and subsequently held on to win, might Fangio have kept his job? Probably not, but the Broncos looked like they were playing for their coach’s job yesterday (up until that play, that is).

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:12 pm

nah, it's a potential TD if Fant and/or Albert O block Ingram. it's a designed read/cutback run to the left and the hole was opened perfectly between the center and left guard. watch the replay from behind the play

ETA: gotta watch this on YT because of the NFL

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:41 pm

Very curious, for reasons that can be described as nostalgic, how much of this can be dumped on Shurmur (who is also available!)

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:57 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:12 pm nah, it's a potential TD if Fant and/or Albert O block Ingram. it's a designed read/cutback run to the left and the hole was opened perfectly between the center and left guard. watch the replay from behind the play

ETA: gotta watch this on YT because of the NFL

Thanks. the outside TE looking to engage a defender in the flat rather than even chip Bolton. Oof.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:31 am

Flores is stunning

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:38 am

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:31 am Flores is stunning

I am gob-smacked. That's crazy.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:39 am

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:40 am

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:41 am

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:46 am

If Harbaugh ends up backing out of the Raiders job they should absolutely interview Flores.

Post by **brian** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:57 am

Last time they hired a dude named Flores it worked out OK.

Still, I don't get all the Flores love. Dolphins lucked into a long winning streak against an uninspiring list of opponents, otherwise, he's been mediocre at best. You can argue he deserved a fourth year and I'll buy that, but it's not exactly like he's set the world on fire either. No idea what's actually going on behind the scenes in Miami. They absolutely have an impatient owner at a minimum.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:10 am

Yeah, absolutely no good wins other than the Patriots. Lost to the Jags and Falcons. Got smoked multiple times. On the other hand, they have like 5 good players and I'm definitely not counting Tua. Things could be a LOT worse. I'm guessing he just didn't get along with the right people.

pruitt2 · Post by **pruitt2** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:12 am

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:57 am Last time they hired a dude named Flores it worked out OK.

Still, I don't get all the Flores love. Dolphins lucked into a long winning streak against an uninspiring list of opponents, otherwise, he's been mediocre at best. You can argue he deserved a fourth year and I'll buy that, but it's not exactly like he's set the world on fire either. No idea what's actually going on behind the scenes in Miami. They absolutely have an impatient owner at a minimum.

Give him a decent QB like Tannehill, and they make the playoffs. Flores won't be unemployed for long.

Matt Nagy though...

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:33 am

Seems funny that there's an immediate leak that Flores was the one who wanted to trade for Watson.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:48 am

I'm going to laugh when Watson ends up netting nothing much because no one wants to deal with his issues. I've thought all along this talk of three 1sts for him has been ridiculous.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:05 pm

Pace out the door with Nagy.

Bears have hired one head coach who had previous NFL head coaching experience, so... we'll see. New GM will allegedly report directly to the owners... who are clueless.

It very likely won't get any better, but at least there is a hint of optimism now because they took the first step.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:12 pm

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:57 am Last time they hired a dude named Flores it worked out OK.

Still, I don't get all the Flores love. Dolphins lucked into a long winning streak against an uninspiring list of opponents, otherwise, he's been mediocre at best. You can argue he deserved a fourth year and I'll buy that, but it's not exactly like he's set the world on fire either. No idea what's actually going on behind the scenes in Miami. They absolutely have an impatient owner at a minimum.

Poor/mediocrely coached teams tend to not go on winning streaks. I think the issue here is an absentee owner looking to make a splash, but somehow comes out looking like a fool.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:19 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:40 am

Just to put a final nail in this story, huge UM donor/alum and Dolphin owner Ross explicitly stated "I'm not going to be the one to take Harbaugh from M" in a press conference (or teleconference or zoom or whatever) today.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:23 pm

And just to continue the S. Ross - Harbaugh chain:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... -michigan/

Post by **brian** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:03 pm

Yeah, would be stupid for Harbaugh to not leverage the possibility of a move to get a better deal. That's good business. Whether he would call Michigan's bluff if they balk at the terms? That's another story.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:12 pm

It’s pretty LOL to think that the owner of an NFL football team wouldn’t hire away the HC from his alma mater if said coach would improve his NFL franchise’s chances.

Does he think this makes him look smart? Is noble the angle he’s looking for?

Post by **brian** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:27 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:12 pm It’s pretty LOL to think that the owner of an NFL football team wouldn’t hire away the HC from his alma mater if said coach would improve his NFL franchise’s chances.

Does he think this makes him look smart? Is noble the angle he’s looking for?

I think he honestly identifies more as a "Michigan superdonor" than "NFL team owner" to tell you the truth. His name is on the UM business school for Christsakes. I think he's given something like close to half a billion over his life.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:41 pm

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:27 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:12 pm It’s pretty LOL to think that the owner of an NFL football team wouldn’t hire away the HC from his alma mater if said coach would improve his NFL franchise’s chances.

Does he think this makes him look smart? Is noble the angle he’s looking for?
I think he honestly identifies more as a "Michigan superdonor" than "NFL team owner" to tell you the truth. His name is on the UM business school for Christsakes. I think he's given something like close to half a billion over his life.

Interesting.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:58 pm

Yeah, what bri said...

And it's, for better or worse, the whole mantra from alums that drone on about The Michigan Way or being a Michigan Man and all that nonsense.

People outside of that don't really understand the cultish mentality that is built up. Same type of vibe I've been droning on about for 7 years as to why Harbaugh isn't going anywhere.

It's one thing to attend the school as a young adult for 4 years. It's an entirely different psychosis when you grow up there. You are brainwashed at a very early age. I could play Hail to the Victors on piano by the age of 6. (easy as fuck song, btw.)

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:58 pm Yeah, what bri said...

And it's, for better or worse, the whole mantra from alums that drone on about The Michigan Way or being a Michigan Man and all that nonsense.

People outside of that don't really understand the cultish mentality that is built up. Same type of vibe I've been droning on about for 7 years as to why Harbaugh isn't going anywhere.

It's one thing to attend the school as a young adult for 4 years. It's an entirely different psychosis when you grow up there. You are brainwashed at a very early age. I could play Hail to the Victors on piano by the age of 6. (easy as fuck song, btw.)

The Cult of Paterno nods their heads. Same with OSU and MSU, right?

Anyway, if Ross doesn’t want to be that guy, but being that guy would make the team you own better, would that not be an indictment of his acumen?

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:29 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:12 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:58 pm Yeah, what bri said...

And it's, for better or worse, the whole mantra from alums that drone on about The Michigan Way or being a Michigan Man and all that nonsense.

People outside of that don't really understand the cultish mentality that is built up. Same type of vibe I've been droning on about for 7 years as to why Harbaugh isn't going anywhere.

It's one thing to attend the school as a young adult for 4 years. It's an entirely different psychosis when you grow up there. You are brainwashed at a very early age. I could play Hail to the Victors on piano by the age of 6. (easy as fuck song, btw.)
The Cult of Paterno nods their heads. Same with OSU and MSU, right?

Anyway, if Ross doesn’t want to be that guy, but being that guy would make the team you own better, would that not be an indictment of his acumen?

Ha! Look at this guy, thinking rich white guys have accountability! I needed that laugh!

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:41 pm

Forget white guys... He's the owner. That's the benefit of owning anything. I am accountable to... Myself. And he is always satisfied with my work.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:41 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:29 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:12 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:58 pm Yeah, what bri said...

And it's, for better or worse, the whole mantra from alums that drone on about The Michigan Way or being a Michigan Man and all that nonsense.

People outside of that don't really understand the cultish mentality that is built up. Same type of vibe I've been droning on about for 7 years as to why Harbaugh isn't going anywhere.

It's one thing to attend the school as a young adult for 4 years. It's an entirely different psychosis when you grow up there. You are brainwashed at a very early age. I could play Hail to the Victors on piano by the age of 6. (easy as fuck song, btw.)
The Cult of Paterno nods their heads. Same with OSU and MSU, right?

Anyway, if Ross doesn’t want to be that guy, but being that guy would make the team you own better, would that not be an indictment of his acumen?
Ha! Look at this guy, thinking rich white guys have accountability! I needed that laugh!

Ha!

Seriously though - Ross saying he doesn’t want to be the guy who takes Harbaugh from Michigan has got to be a kick in the jimmy for Dolphins’ fans, cuz chances are real that some other team will.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:04 pm

Bears announced that Bill Polian will be leading a five-person group in charge of hiring the next coach. They farmed the job out to Ernie Accorsi when they hired Ryan Pace, which got them John Fox, so I have lots of confidence in how this will turn out.

pruitt2 · Post by **pruitt2** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:44 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:04 pm Bears announced that Bill Polian will be leading a five-person group in charge of hiring the next coach. They farmed the job out to Ernie Accorsi when they hired Ryan Pace, which got them John Fox, so I have lots of confidence in how this will turn out.

Sweet gig for Polian.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:56 am

ESPN and NFL Network reporting that the Bears have put in requests to interview Leslie Frazier, Todd Bowles, Byron Leftwich, Brian Daboll, and Nathaniel Hackett for their coaching vacancy.

Also on the hiring committee for the Bears are their director of player engagement and senior vice president of diversity, equity, and inclusion. Of course, there's this...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:52 pm

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:52 pm

Tua isn't even the GM!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:16 pm

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:46 pm

I hope this doesn't mean they're going to go after Flores with the hopes of keeping Watson.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:57 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:46 pm I hope this doesn't mean they're going to go after Flores with the hopes of keeping Watson.

Going after Flores would be fine...second part not so much.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:04 pm

The rumor is Flores is why there was some interest between Miami and Watson.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:08 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:04 pm The rumor is Flores is why there was some interest between Miami and Watson.

Oh yeah, I get that. I think he may be a decent coach, but that could be listening to too much Lebatard.

pruitt2 · Post by **pruitt2** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:13 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:52 pm

Mike Lombardi is still a thing?