2023 Swamp NHL Playoff Pool

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:39 pm

Back after a one year hiatus... Travzilla's NHL Playoff Pool

(Chedda also has a $$$ pool available to enter... see this thread)

A reminder of the rules:

- Players are ranked by regular-season Points Per Game, then divided into 10 groups. Each group has a different "multiplier" to alter the value of the goals and assists those players score in the playoffs. This levels the playing field between the very best players (group 1) through to the depth guys (group 10).
-For example: Connor McDavid (group 1) gets 1 point per goal/assist, while Brent Burns (group 8) earns 2.4 points per goal/assist.

- There is also a TEAM group where you select 2 teams, which also earn points (3 for a win, -1 for a loss)

- Overtime goals are worth double points

- Between round 2 and 3, you can drop up to 2 eliminated players for 2 new ones.

TO ENTER:

Select 14 PLAYERS (with a maximum of 3 from any single NHL team), and 2 TEAMS from the list below.
**note: you don't need to pick one player from each group, the groups only exist to level out the points value**

Send picks by PM here, or email - travzilla3000 <at> hotmail.com

I'll set the deadline at WEDNESDAY, APRIL 19th at 6:00 pm EST. (after the game 1's but hopefully long enough that everyone who wants in gets a chance to see the thread).

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:30 pm

travzilla wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:39 pm

That's actually really well done but you're still a cunt for it.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:44 am

Sent via email. Thanks for putting this together again!

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:40 pm

Entry sent! (Btw, Trav, I don't see Jack Hughes in your groups. Seems like a bit of an oversight.)

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:19 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:40 pm Entry sent! (Btw, Trav, I don't see Jack Hughes in your groups. Seems like a bit of an oversight.)

Top of 1.2 list

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:32 am

I think we know who's the favorite in the "visually impaired" division.

Hope it's getting better quickly, sancarlos.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:12 am

Hell yeah. Sent.

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:17 pm

Received so far:

Trav
Sancarlos
Degen
Chedda
Wlu_lax
Ryan

**Degen, check your PMs, you subbmitted a roster for the pool Chedda posted about...

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:23 pm

Trav you seem to have made a minor mistake and left Sidney Crosby off the player list :(

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:34 pm

alright i'm in - pix sent

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:57 pm

travzilla wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:17 pm Received so far:

Trav
Sancarlos
Degen
Chedda
Wlu_lax
Ryan

**Degen, check your PMs, you subbmitted a roster for the pool Chedda posted about...

oh come on

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:05 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:30 pm That's actually really well done but you're still a cunt for it.

rass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:23 pm Trav you seem to have made a minor mistake and left Sidney Crosby off the player list

I know this is all new to you guys but its a long offseason, you gotta spread out those stages of grief

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:08 pm

Did you get mine?

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:33 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:08 pmDid you get mine?

Yep, just saw it at the top of my email. All good.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:33 pm

STOP THE COUNT!!!

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:57 am

Last call for entries.... I'll start posting results and standings tomorrow

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:12 am

Rosters:

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:37 am

Standings after games 1:

** PTS last night is both nights combined**

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:39 am

Giff riding the Roope train to a big night

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:50 am

I'm bummed I missed this. Good luck everyone!

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:54 am

If we weren't playing for such high stakes, I'd say let BSF21 in with his points starting to count tonight.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:55 am

Giff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:54 am If we weren't playing for such high stakes, I'd say let BSF21 in with his points starting to count tonight.

Honestly I looked at it yesterday and just didn't have the time to put anything together. I'll be content to watch from afar this time.

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:52 am

BSF21 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:55 am
Giff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:54 am If we weren't playing for such high stakes, I'd say let BSF21 in with his points starting to count tonight.
Honestly I looked at it yesterday and just didn't have the time to put anything together. I'll be content to watch from afar this time.

So I went ahead and drafted BSF a team using a random number generator and it turned out... pretty damn decent? Puts him in 3rd place at the moment.

I kind of like the idea of having a random baseline to measure our own (in)competence against. We can see who has a positive or negative swampWAR in the end.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:14 am

Taking an off-the-board player who then gets a season-ending injury is pretty cool, you guys

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:19 pm

Ryan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:14 am Taking an off-the-board player who then gets a season-ending injury is pretty cool, you guys

With the caps not in the platform that was basically my approach to selection.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:16 am

SO GLAD i picked Bergeron who has missed both games

(good. Go Panthers - i've always loved that franchise.)

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:45 am

A scoring thought for next year. Bonus points if after round 2 none of your players or teams are out.

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:31 pm

update for Thursday night's games:

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:35 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:45 am A scoring thought for next year. Bonus points if after round 2 none of your players or teams are out.

If none of your team is eliminated after round 2, you're probably gonna run away with the thing with or without bonus points. our TV rights holders will be demanding some kind of competitive balance.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:05 pm

travzilla wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:35 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:45 am A scoring thought for next year. Bonus points if after round 2 none of your players or teams are out.
If none of your team is eliminated after round 2, you're probably gonna run away with the thing with or without bonus points. our TV rights holders will be demanding some kind of competitive balance.

I hadn't really fleshed out the idea fully, but what if you've got someone like Fox or Marner and they keep up their 3PPG average, but lose in game 7 of the second round. Doesn't seem "fair" to someone who had all of his players advance to Rd3 for someone who is leading in points, but has now lost Fox and Marner (with 42 points each) and can easily replace them with Heiskanen and Hintz, both averaging 2.5PPG.

I could be way off here, but was just thinking about it, and certainly not advocating for it.

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:37 am

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:05 pm
travzilla wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:35 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:45 am A scoring thought for next year. Bonus points if after round 2 none of your players or teams are out.
If none of your team is eliminated after round 2, you're probably gonna run away with the thing with or without bonus points. our TV rights holders will be demanding some kind of competitive balance.
I hadn't really fleshed out the idea fully, but what if you've got someone like Fox or Marner and they keep up their 3PPG average, but lose in game 7 of the second round. Doesn't seem "fair" to someone who had all of his players advance to Rd3 for someone who is leading in points, but has now lost Fox and Marner (with 42 points each) and can easily replace them with Heiskanen and Hintz, both averaging 2.5PPG.

I could be way off here, but was just thinking about it, and certainly not advocating for it.

Ah I see what you are talking about, with the player replacement part. Could be something there worth exploring, like maybe getting the new players after rd 2 isn't completely free, but has some penalty or cost to it.

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:56 am

In addition to last nights points, there were also adjustments to previous points due to me missing Oilers game 1 points and Knights game 2 points somehow. Went through all skaters, should be all accurate now.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:33 pm

Nice little start to today!

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:13 pm

crazy/stupid follow-up: maybe rather instead of a penalty for the new draftees you could have something like for every round your player plays in they get extra value? I'm not wording it well (it's the vermouth) but e.g. for every round they advance they get an extra multiplier, like adding an extra ~.5 per point. So in this case if McDavid gets to the semis and you drafted him off the hop he's now worth 2.0 per point in that round, but if you just picked him up in the final 4 he's just worth the original 1.0

(it'd be a lot of work tho. I'd throw in an entry fee with a percentage going to Trav

)

travzilla wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:37 am Ah I see what you are talking about, with the player replacement part. Could be something there worth exploring, like maybe getting the new players after rd 2 isn't completely free, but has some penalty or cost to it.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:59 pm

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:13 pm crazy/stupid follow-up: maybe rather instead of a penalty for the new draftees you could have something like for every round your player plays in they get extra value? I'm not wording it well (it's the vermouth) but e.g. for every round they advance they get an extra multiplier, like adding an extra ~.5 per point. So in this case if McDavid gets to the semis and you drafted him off the hop he's now worth 2.0 per point in that round, but if you just picked him up in the final 4 he's just worth the original 1.0

(it'd be a lot of work tho. I'd throw in an entry fee with a percentage going to Trav )

travzilla wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:37 am Ah I see what you are talking about, with the player replacement part. Could be something there worth exploring, like maybe getting the new players after rd 2 isn't completely free, but has some penalty or cost to it.

Vermouth brothers!

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:17 am

Saturday games update

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:11 am

HUGE night for Giff...

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:31 am

Yeah, baby!

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:19 am

Here comes BSF! Kid is a genius!

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:33 am

I'm fucking good at this.