The Swamp

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:48 am**

or Trump's VP?

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:51 am**

degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:48 am or Trump's VP?

I think Trump's VP pick is gonna be either Kari Lake (Crackpot Senate loser from AZ), Kristi Noem (Governor, SD, also a nut), or as a longshot, Nancy Mace (Rep out of South Carolina, extremely kooky).

Elise Stefanik thinks she's got a chance, but she's not conventionally "hot" enough for Trump to share a ticket with.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:54 am**

degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:48 am or Trump's VP?

I don't like to play the "I guarantee you _______ won't happen", but I guarantee you that won't happen.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:25 am**

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:51 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:48 am or Trump's VP?
I think Trump's VP pick is gonna be either Kari Lake (Crackpot Senate loser from AZ), Kristi Noem (Governor, SD, also a nut), or as a longshot, Nancy Mace (Rep out of South Carolina, extremely kooky).

Elise Stefanik thinks she's got a chance, but she's not conventionally "hot" enough for Trump to share a ticket with.

Trump picked Pence to appeal to the evangelicals...

Do any of these women sufficiently expand his base? Or is their subservience to MAGA "ideals" enough?

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:54 am**

Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:25 am
DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:51 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:48 am or Trump's VP?
I think Trump's VP pick is gonna be either Kari Lake (Crackpot Senate loser from AZ), Kristi Noem (Governor, SD, also a nut), or as a longshot, Nancy Mace (Rep out of South Carolina, extremely kooky).

Elise Stefanik thinks she's got a chance, but she's not conventionally "hot" enough for Trump to share a ticket with.
Trump picked Pence to appeal to the evangelicals...

And all the evangelicals are now completely in thrall to him (see the "God Made Trump" ad that's floating around).

Do any of these women sufficiently expand his base? Or is their subservience to MAGA "ideals" enough?

Trump doesn't think his base needs to be expanded anymore. He'll want some eye candy to be seen with. Just look as his hack lawyer Alina Habba...(IANAL but even I know that you have to stand up to talk to the Judge)...

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:59 am**

Well that's a teribble acronym.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:19 pm**

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:59 am Well that's a teribble acronym.

(I Am Not A Lawyer)

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:24 pm**

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:19 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:59 am Well that's a teribble acronym.
(I Am Not A Lawyer)

Good to know you weren’t oversharing personal details.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:28 pm**

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:19 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:59 am Well that's a teribble acronym.
(I Am Not A Lawyer)

Oh I know, but it may belong in the license plate thread.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:47 pm**

In that case, IANAL too

Posted: **Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:15 pm**

pour one out for Ron

Posted: **Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:21 pm**

Endorsing Trump might reset the bar for political humiliations.

Posted: **Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:43 pm**

A week ago:

Posted: **Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:03 pm**

Great, now he can get back to actively fucking up my state.

Posted: **Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:06 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:50 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:53 am**

I don't get the American political system. So DeSantis spends millions upon millions, takes part in a bunch of debates and lasts for one caucus where 99.999% of people don't actually cast a ballot. So every supporter that planned to vote for him in the other 49 states can no longer do so.

Posted: **Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:10 am**

They've known they were dead for months and the only hope was that the 0.001% in Iowa made him look more viable than he is and changed some minds.

Posted: **Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:13 am**

The fact that the first 2 primaries, which often weed out the bulk of those running, are about 90 percent white says a lot about the antiquated nature of the process.

Posted: **Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:16 am**

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:10 am They've known they were dead for months and the only hope was that the 0.001% in Iowa made him look more viable than he is and changed some minds.

No idea why DeSantis came out this term against both Trump and Biden when 2028 is wide open. Read his own press clipping, sank his entire future.

Posted: **Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:28 am**

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:53 am I don't get the American political system. So DeSantis spends millions upon millions, takes part in a bunch of debates and lasts for one caucus where 99.999% of people don't actually cast a ballot. So every supporter that planned to vote for him in the other 49 states can no longer do so.

It's a racket, a business propped up by the media.

Posted: **Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:30 am**

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:16 am
mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:10 am They've known they were dead for months and the only hope was that the 0.001% in Iowa made him look more viable than he is and changed some minds.
No idea why DeSantis came out this term against both Trump and Biden when 2028 is wide open. Read his own press clipping, sank his entire future.

My only thought is he wanted to run in case Trump's voters cared that he was indicted in four matters on 91 felonies. Turns out, that made him more electable. DeSantis clearly never tried to run against Trump, he tried to be Trump and wouldn't attack. He wasn't setting himself up for VP or another appointment, as Trump has been attacking him for months now. Maybe getting name recognition for 2028? Most likely, the guy has a huge ego and underestimated his horrendous personality and how off-putting he is. The more he spoke, the less popular he became. Funny how much the Dem establishment and LW media feared him when he first hit the scene.

Posted: **Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:31 pm**

I think its most likely about a half dozen people who have or have control of huge amounts of money decided this dipshit should run, just like they could have picked any of 100 other people. Its not like DeSantis rose to the top on merit or anything.

Posted: **Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:04 pm**

Fucking Trump, man.

Posted: **Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:24 pm**

Good. I hope he gets the nomination. His candidates have been getting beat these last three cycles. He’s becoming the kiss of death for candidates. He’s only gotten dumber and weaker, and while his base will vote for him, it won’t be enough that’ll swing anything. And maybe, just maybe, the establishment GOP will finally put his ass and his cronies out to pasture when they get their asses kicked again.

Posted: **Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:52 pm**

You don't need to hope

Posted: **Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:10 pm**

Weekend at Bernie's

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:55 am**

Combined votes for Vivek, Christie, and DeSantis - 4,088

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:56 am**

Vermin Supreme got more votes than Mike Pence

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:56 am**

Ryan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:55 am Combined votes for Vivek, Christie, and DeSantis - 4,088

Hit the over by 2,600.

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:15 am**

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:24 pm Good. I hope he gets the nomination. His candidates have been getting beat these last three cycles. He’s becoming the kiss of death for candidates. He’s only gotten dumber and weaker, and while his base will vote for him, it won’t be enough that’ll swing anything. And maybe, just maybe, the establishment GOP will finally put his ass and his cronies out to pasture when they get their asses kicked again.

I think I've been pretty firmly in this camp for many years now.

The area where I am truly curious is about "the establishment" doing anything about anything. The party, at the grassroots level, has been almost completely taken over by the MAGA wing... In many ways, going even further than Trump into just straight up unintended anarchy. There is a recent This American Life about the implosion of the MI GOP state party that is very instructive. It has been almost completely taken over by conspiracy theorists.

I honestly don't know how they dig out of a situation where the bulk of primary voters and volunteers (most state party jobs are not paid) are completely untethered from reality.

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:04 pm**

Kinda the knock on democracy

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:35 pm**

Biden in wheelhouse at UAW. Been a while since I've listened to him but doesn't sound dead. Good even. Expected worse.

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:38 pm**

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:56 am
Ryan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:55 am Combined votes for Vivek, Christie, and DeSantis - 4,088
Hit the over by 2,600.

This took a moment but it's good.

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:39 pm**

I just got an email from the Palm Beach Post that Lee Majors will attend Trump’s super bowl party. They had a picture of him, and holy crap his face looks like it was put together like a ransom note. Airbrushed photography of your plastically altered face can do that to you I guess.

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:40 pm**

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:15 am
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:24 pm Good. I hope he gets the nomination. His candidates have been getting beat these last three cycles. He’s becoming the kiss of death for candidates. He’s only gotten dumber and weaker, and while his base will vote for him, it won’t be enough that’ll swing anything. And maybe, just maybe, the establishment GOP will finally put his ass and his cronies out to pasture when they get their asses kicked again.
I think I've been pretty firmly in this camp for many years now.

The area where I am truly curious is about "the establishment" doing anything about anything. The party, at the grassroots level, has been almost completely taken over by the MAGA wing... In many ways, going even further than Trump into just straight up unintended anarchy. There is a recent This American Life about the implosion of the MI GOP state party that is very instructive. It has been almost completely taken over by conspiracy theorists.

I honestly don't know how they dig out of a situation where the bulk of primary voters and volunteers (most state party jobs are not paid) are completely untethered from reality.

I think we all know a way they can start to dig out of the situation... even if no one wants to say it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:48 pm**

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:39 pm I just got an email from the Palm Beach Post that Lee Majors will attend Trump’s super bowl party. They had a picture of him, and holy crap his face looks like it was put together like a ransom note. Airbrushed photography of your plastically altered face can do that to you I guess.

With his "Fall Guy" co-star Heather Thomas

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:52 pm**

At first I thought "Isn't he dead?" but realized I was thinking about Lee Marvin. And then, realizing it was Lee Majors, I thought "Wait, I still think he's dead."

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:44 pm**

Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:48 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:39 pm I just got an email from the Palm Beach Post that Lee Majors will attend Trump’s super bowl party. They had a picture of him, and holy crap his face looks like it was put together like a ransom note. Airbrushed photography of your plastically altered face can do that to you I guess.
With his "Fall Guy" co-star Heather Thomas

Just in that photo for that other event. She won't be doing anything with Trump, as she is a blue re-tweeting machine, as some of us have seen from following Hood.

Posted: **Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:45 pm**

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:38 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:56 am
Ryan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:55 am Combined votes for Vivek, Christie, and DeSantis - 4,088
Hit the over by 2,600.
This took a moment but it's good.

It doesn't work great due to Christie, but he's big enough, I doubt it's the first stray he's ever caught.

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