Fucking Democrats, proposing to take four years to raise the minimum wage to $15 per hour.
Sanders proposed to do it over six years.
The Raise the Wage Act of 2019 would:
• Gradually raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 over the next six years to lift millions of
workers out of poverty, stimulate local economies, and restore the value of minimum wage;
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:53 pm
If there's a $15 minimum wage in January 2025, I'll mail you two hours, Steve.
Sure. Who knows what will actually pass. I would not be surprised if the ultimate figure is cut at the behest of people who just have to see themselves as "moderate" and will insist on a compromise even if the original proposal is moderate.
But my point is that the folks who are blowing up the Twitters right now complaining about the "Democrats" because their bill includes a four-year phase-in are morons.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:53 pm
If there's a $15 minimum wage in January 2025, I'll mail you two hours, Steve.
Sure. Who knows what will actually pass. I would not be surprised if the ultimate figure is cut at the behest of people who just have to see themselves as "moderate" and will insist on a compromise even if the original proposal is moderate.
But my point is that the folks who are blowing up the Twitters right now complaining about the "Democrats" because their bill includes a four-year phase-in are morons.
Every state that has made major increases to minimum wage has done it in increments over several years. It's much easier for businesses to manages a dollar or two each year and slowly increase than face a close to 50% increase. Keep in mind, they aren't just going to need to increase minimum wage employees, but most employees to keep a similar gap in wages between minimum wage jobs and more skilled/difficult jobs. This will also affect all employers, really, as they need to keep wages attractive, even if they are paying over $15/hour now. Then you need to factor in salaried employees needing to stay over the minimum wage equivalent, and the threshold for exempt salaried employees will go up (if an exempt employee earns less than minimum wage for the year, employers are required to go back and calculate total hours worked for the entire year and pay OT whenever they went over 40 hours in a week and in some states, if they went over 8 hours in a day). This isn't a simple change to implement.
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:53 pm
If there's a $15 minimum wage in January 2025, I'll mail you two hours, Steve.
Sure. Who knows what will actually pass. I would not be surprised if the ultimate figure is cut at the behest of people who just have to see themselves as "moderate" and will insist on a compromise even if the original proposal is moderate.
But my point is that the folks who are blowing up the Twitters right now complaining about the "Democrats" because their bill includes a four-year phase-in are morons.
Every state that has made major increases to minimum wage has done it in increments over several years. It's much easier for businesses to manages a dollar or two each year and slowly increase than face a close to 50% increase. Keep in mind, they aren't just going to need to increase minimum wage employees, but most employees to keep a similar gap in wages between minimum wage jobs and more skilled/difficult jobs. This will also affect all employers, really, as they need to keep wages attractive, even if they are paying over $15/hour now. Then you need to factor in salaried employees needing to stay over the minimum wage equivalent, and the threshold for exempt salaried employees will go up (if an exempt employee earns less than minimum wage for the year, employers are required to go back and calculate total hours worked for the entire year and pay OT whenever they went over 40 hours in a week and in some states, if they went over 8 hours in a day). This isn't a simple change to implement.
Yup. And I'm old enough to remember the last few minimum wage increases, which were also phased in incrementally.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:52 pm
I absolutely get the phase in. I don't believe there's a chance we have a $15 national minimum wage in 48 months.
It's hard to put that genie back in the bottle. The minimum wage has never legislatively gone DOWN in the history of the country. It's not great optics for the Republicans to reverse it even if they could (I'm guessing Biden would veto even if GOP takes the House back and Senate in 2022).
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:52 pm
I absolutely get the phase in. I don't believe there's a chance we have a $15 national minimum wage in 48 months.
I thought you were criticizing the 4 year aspect of the proposal.
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:52 pm
I absolutely get the phase in. I don't believe there's a chance we have a $15 national minimum wage in 48 months.
It's hard to put that genie back in the bottle. The minimum wage has never legislatively gone DOWN in the history of the country. It's not great optics for the Republicans to reverse it even if they could (I'm guessing Biden would veto even if GOP takes the House back and Senate in 2022).
Agreed, but until people are universally receiving $15, there's nothing to reverse.
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
sancarlos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:56 pm
The minimum wage in San Francisco is currently $16.07.
I think a bunch of major cities (and my Whole Foods!) have it.
In-N-Out starting salary is $17.5/hr (for whatever that's worth). If you pay employees a livable wage and treat them like human beings, you get good service and production. Weird how that works.
sancarlos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:56 pm
The minimum wage in San Francisco is currently $16.07.
I think a bunch of major cities (and my Whole Foods!) have it.
In-N-Out starting salary is $17.5/hr (for whatever that's worth). If you pay employees a livable wage and treat them like human beings, you get good service and production. Weird how that works.
But I can't pay out dividends to my stockholders in happy, productive employees.
“All I'm sayin' is, he comes near me, I'll put him in the wall.”
Even in public companies with dividends to pay and targets to hit I never understood the logic of treating your employees like replaceable cogs in a machine, but I'm getting a first-hand lesson in that this week. The wheels of machinery needs to be oiled with the blood of the workers.
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:10 pm
I think the whole dividends over wages shit is just rich people's excess over workers' gains and most rich people don't care about workers.
Do companies even pay dividends anymore? It seems like the goal of management is to juice short-term profits so the share price goes up, then bail out before things fall to shit.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:10 pm
I think the whole dividends over wages shit is just rich people's excess over workers' gains and most rich people don't care about workers.
Do companies even pay dividends anymore? It seems like the goal of management is to juice short-term profits so the share price goes up, then bail out before things fall to shit.
If my Chrome suggested articles is any indication, Motley Fool has article after article of the "Best 2" or "Top 8" dividend stocks to jump on daily. Gets kinda annoying.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
I felt a little bad for her when I saw the video of the kid who pretended to pose for a selfie with her on the street than berated her. Seeing this, fuck her. Berating a damned high school kid who survived a school shooting. Of course he didn't answer your questions, your a psychotic gun nut badgering a high school kid on the street.
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
Hopefully Puerto Rico is next.. Repubs are crying over this, but forget the shit they pulled in the Dakotas to get more seats.
Doesn't DC have a larger population than three or four states?
brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:33 am
It's going to get worse. It's going to get much, much worse. When Hawley or Cruz (or Trump/Trump Jr.) is elected in 2024, that's the end of democracy.
Do they really have the Trifecta tho? Biden is in the WH and after that isn't not clear, they have it on party numbers, but voting in the Senate is up in the air with Manchin and Sinema voting against Dems so much.
Them losing the House in 2022 is a real possibility that they need to face and really push shit right now.
The thing about Greene and Parkland is this should be very simple to take advantage of. Either she believes it and isn't mentally sound enough to serve or she doesn't believe it and should be a fucking pariah to even Republicans.
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:23 pm
The thing about Greene and Parkland is this should be very simple to take advantage of. Either she believes it and isn't mentally sound enough to serve or she doesn't believe it and should be a fucking pariah to even Republicans.
I disagree, and if she came out and said I trolled a school shooting survivor merely for publicity, she’d be lauded by the right.
My avatar corresponds on my place in the Swamp posting list with the all-time Home Run list. Number 45 is Paul Konerko with 439.
Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:01 pm
Just a wild guess - none of the yokels in rural Georgia who elected her are calling for her removal or censure.
Jimmy Gomez is, but we all know this will never go through since they would need 2/3 votes in the House.
I bet McCarthy will give her some award or some shit considering when asked about this, he ignored it and bitched about Liz Cheney instead.
Lets hope the dems really push Brittany Smith down there. they just won the two Senate seats from that state so beating her is possible. https://twitter.com/BTrambauer
Only real hope is that a non-nutjob Republican primaries her like finally happened to Steve King. Unfortunately, she's probably super popular with the kind of white supremacist mouth-breathers that make up most of the GOP base now.
