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Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:06 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Pruitt wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:31 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:30 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:17 am
Pruitt wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:26 am
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:59 am
Anyway... it's gross. He needs to resign.
How much hubris does this guy have that he didn't immediately resign and try to disappear off the face of the earth when these allegations and evidence came to light?
he called it a "witch hunt" three times in his prebuttal statement before the house report was released and said there would be more allegations and accusations forthcoming that were false

there's some serious malignant narcissism going on here
update

the Republican AG who is running for Senate vs. McCaskill says Greitens likely committed a felony in releasing the donor names of his vets' charity for political fundraising purposes. the AG has referred the case to an StL prosecutor because he says he doesn't have the authority but supports the prosecutor's efforts in charging Greitens

Greitens responds by saying the prosecutor is a liberal funded by Soros
Is it safe to say that buddy is having some sort of breakdown?
There's only one playbook. The plays don't change.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:29 pm
by Avram
Brontoburglar wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:30 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:17 am
Pruitt wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:26 am
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:59 am
Anyway... it's gross. He needs to resign.
How much hubris does this guy have that he didn't immediately resign and try to disappear off the face of the earth when these allegations and evidence came to light?
he called it a "witch hunt" three times in his prebuttal statement before the house report was released and said there would be more allegations and accusations forthcoming that were false

there's some serious malignant narcissism going on here
update

the Republican AG who is running for Senate vs. McCaskill says Greitens likely committed a felony in releasing the donor names of his vets' charity for political fundraising purposes. the AG has referred the case to an StL prosecutor because he says he doesn't have the authority but supports the prosecutor's efforts in charging Greitens

Greitens responds by saying the prosecutor is a liberal funded by Soros
Funny to hear someone Jewish use the Soros smear. That is usually reserved for anti-Semites trying to disguise their bigotry

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:48 pm
by Pruitt
He's Jewish?

Fuck that shit.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:45 pm
by Avram
Pruitt wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:48 pm He's Jewish?

Fuck that shit.
Yes, it is truly embarrassing.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:53 pm
by Pruitt
Avram wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:45 pm
Pruitt wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:48 pm He's Jewish?

Fuck that shit.
Yes, it is truly embarrassing.
Weinstein, Woody Allen, Jared Kushner, Adam Levine, and now this?!

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:12 pm
by Avram
Pruitt wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:53 pm
Avram wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:45 pm
Pruitt wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:48 pm He's Jewish?

Fuck that shit.
Yes, it is truly embarrassing.
Weinstein, Woody Allen, Jared Kushner, Adam Levine, and now this?!
we are no different than anyone else. No better, no worse. But I still take it personally. I expect more.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:13 pm
by Brontoburglar
to further spin the Greitens thing. the AG has been investigating the charity for over a year. but he's *now* doing this because the statute of limitations on this alleged crime ends in ... wait for it ... wait for it ... five days.

this is a blatant political play. granted, I imagine there's significant proof and evidence, but this has all the makings of a "hey you're toxic now so I gotta wash my hands of you"

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:51 pm
by Nonlinear FC
Nikki Haley is probably going to be the only person from this administration to come out of this entire fiasco relatively unscathed. Maybe Mattis?

But basically telling Kudlow to fuck off in such a brilliant way sure has been fun to watch.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:39 pm
by Nonlinear FC
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/f ... rs-w518701

Very good read about assumptions (poor ones) re: Trump voters in red states.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:52 am
by Johnnie
Cardi B for president! (When she's at least 35, anyway.)




Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:59 pm
by Brontoburglar
Brontoburglar wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:13 pm to further spin the Greitens thing. the AG has been investigating the charity for over a year. but he's *now* doing this because the statute of limitations on this alleged crime ends in ... wait for it ... wait for it ... five days.

this is a blatant political play. granted, I imagine there's significant proof and evidence, but this has all the makings of a "hey you're toxic now so I gotta wash my hands of you"
felony number two!

tampering with computer data

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:55 pm
by Johnnie
Looking at pics like this make me think it's all a joke and we're arguing over nothing.

Image

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:02 pm
by brian
There's definitely 8 people in that photo who could buy any of us with the loose cash in their wallets.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:33 pm
by L-Jam3
And a pretty solid pair of gams in the background (viewer’s) right.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:34 pm
by Brontoburglar
I guess I should put this here but I am really disappointed in myself that I had no idea Macron's wife was 65 and their backstory until tonight.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:17 am
by P.D.X.


Good thread

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:14 pm
by Brontoburglar
there are other mistakes in it too, like saying it's been illegal for years to register to vote in the state of Kansas

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:42 pm
by HaulCitgo
I appreciate "CITE." Gonna try that one next time I'm feeling lazy.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:03 pm
by DaveInSeattle
HaulCitgo wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:42 pm I appreciate "CITE." Gonna try that one next time I'm feeling lazy.
C'mon...give him a break. It's not like Kobach is a trained lawyer or anything...
From Harvard, Kobach went on to earn an M.A. and Ph.D. in Politics at the University of Oxford, attending having been granted a Marshall Scholarship. Returning to the U.S., he studied at Yale Law School, where he earned a law degree in 1995,[1][32] and became an editor of the Yale Law Journal.
Ooops....

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:54 pm
by A_B
That’s pretty standard I think as you get things ready. What’s not standard is not reviewing the documents at all afterward.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:13 am
by Shirley
DaveInSeattle wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:03 pm
HaulCitgo wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:42 pm I appreciate "CITE." Gonna try that one next time I'm feeling lazy.
C'mon...give him a break. It's not like Kobach is a trained lawyer or anything...
From Harvard, Kobach went on to earn an M.A. and Ph.D. in Politics at the University of Oxford, attending having been granted a Marshall Scholarship. Returning to the U.S., he studied at Yale Law School, where he earned a law degree in 1995,[1][32] and became an editor of the Yale Law Journal.
Ooops....
My wife does that all the time when she's writing briefs or other legal docs. Coming up with the exact, proper citation can take a lot of tedious time, and that's wasted time if you later edit that part out. It looks like this was just not the final version of the document.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:08 am
by Nonlinear FC
Is that also something that a paralegal might do?

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:23 pm
by The Sybian
Shirley wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:13 am
DaveInSeattle wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:03 pm
HaulCitgo wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:42 pm I appreciate "CITE." Gonna try that one next time I'm feeling lazy.
C'mon...give him a break. It's not like Kobach is a trained lawyer or anything...
From Harvard, Kobach went on to earn an M.A. and Ph.D. in Politics at the University of Oxford, attending having been granted a Marshall Scholarship. Returning to the U.S., he studied at Yale Law School, where he earned a law degree in 1995,[1][32] and became an editor of the Yale Law Journal.
Ooops....
My wife does that all the time when she's writing briefs or other legal docs. Coming up with the exact, proper citation can take a lot of tedious time, and that's wasted time if you later edit that part out. It looks like this was just not the final version of the document.
Sure, but that is still a major fuck up to submit the wrong draft. Typically, briefs are written by associates, and reviewed by a partner. The partner probably but notes in for the associate, and they either missed it on the final, submitted the wrong draft, or sent in the document before it was completed. No matter what happened, it is the height of incompetence, especially in a very high profile case. That had to slip through numerous levels of proofreading and double checking.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:46 pm
by Shirley
The Sybian wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:23 pm
Shirley wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:13 am
DaveInSeattle wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:03 pm
HaulCitgo wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:42 pm I appreciate "CITE." Gonna try that one next time I'm feeling lazy.
C'mon...give him a break. It's not like Kobach is a trained lawyer or anything...
From Harvard, Kobach went on to earn an M.A. and Ph.D. in Politics at the University of Oxford, attending having been granted a Marshall Scholarship. Returning to the U.S., he studied at Yale Law School, where he earned a law degree in 1995,[1][32] and became an editor of the Yale Law Journal.
Ooops....
My wife does that all the time when she's writing briefs or other legal docs. Coming up with the exact, proper citation can take a lot of tedious time, and that's wasted time if you later edit that part out. It looks like this was just not the final version of the document.
Sure, but that is still a major fuck up to submit the wrong draft. Typically, briefs are written by associates, and reviewed by a partner. The partner probably but notes in for the associate, and they either missed it on the final, submitted the wrong draft, or sent in the document before it was completed. No matter what happened, it is the height of incompetence, especially in a very high profile case. That had to slip through numerous levels of proofreading and double checking.
Absolutely. I wasn't excusing the mistakes, just explaining the likely origin. My wife is very anal about anything she submits. She would never submit an incomplete document. Hell, I've watched her spend 45 minutes on three-sentence emails.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:54 am
by Brontoburglar
Kobach's incompetence is truly mindboggling. and he'll be running for governor in November!

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:21 am
by brian
And he'll probably win because Kansas.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:04 am
by mister d

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:50 am
by Ryan
So I wanted the girl to say "you need to scissor it" a few times but otherwise this is good.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:53 pm
by The Sybian
I hope someone takes a frame where it looks like the guy is holding the sign, and it becomes a meme and everyone assumes he is a protester holding the sign.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:07 pm
by duff
So Trump is holding a rally next Thursday here in South Bend. Should I go? Big campaign rally for the winner of the Republican nomination on Tuesday.

Best thing is my co-worker is flying to Vegas that day...or he was supposed to. He called the airport to find out about his flight and they had no clue. It has been all over the news and twitter since it was announced.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:25 pm
by Pruitt
brian wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:29 pm Looks like the GOP candidate for Manchin's Senate seat in West Virginia is likely going to be...wait for it...a guy who spent a year in federal prison after one of his coal mines exploded and killed 29 people.

Make America Great Again, indeed. It's like 1910 all up in this bitch!
Not so fast. There's this guy...



"Cocaine Mitch?!"

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:39 pm
by Gunpowder
Didn't his father in law's company get caught with a huge amount of cocaine on a ship recently? Probably referring to that, I'd have to imagine.

Not that it would make Blankenship any less deserving of getting burned alive in Papa John Stadium.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:46 pm
by brian
Also, that's the same guy who killed 29 people and spent a year in prison whining the whole time that he got a raw deal. This country sucks.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:51 pm
by A_B
Gunpowder wrote: Thu May 03, 2018 6:39 pm Didn't his father in law's company get caught with a huge amount of cocaine on a ship recently? Probably referring to that, I'd have to imagine.

Not that it would make Blankenship any less deserving of getting burned alive in Papa John Stadium.
Sentiment is fine, but keep him in West Virginia.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:51 pm
by Gunpowder
Whoops. Not sure why I was thinking Kentucky - probably the McConnell references.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:19 pm
by Pruitt
I couldn't finish this article. it made me too angry.

Trump Fans Unload on McCain

I'm not a huge fan of McCain (but his recent statements are amazing), still, when he was sitting in a Vietnamese prison in order to protect his fellow soldiers and his country, could he even for a second imagine that as he approaches the end of his days, mouth-breathing scumbags would dare to unload such bile on him?



These people are revolting.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:24 pm
by Ryan
Pruitt wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 6:19 pmwhen he was sitting in a Vietnamese prison in order to protect his fellow soldiers and his country, could he even for a second imagine that as he approaches the end of his days, mouth-breathing scumbags would dare to unload such bile on him?
Yes?

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:39 pm
by mister d
I’m quite fine with someone who dedicated a good portion of their life making a lot of lives worse going out miserable.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:17 pm
by Pruitt
mister d wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 8:39 pm I’m quite fine with someone who dedicated a good portion of their life making a lot of lives worse going out miserable.
Yeah, but I'm looking at the source of the hating here. Calling McCain a "democrat."

And you know, there is something crass about throwing hate on a guy who is dying. Just seems wrong.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:36 am
by mister d
Well, if it helps clean your conscience you could just picture all the people whose lives are ruined or are also dying due to those policies he sure does publicly struggle with on an ethical level before falling in line. Fuck him.