Still, get ready for more of this because it's a warmup for what they're going to try if Trump loses in 2020.
I don't think its hard to imagine that scenario.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:27 pm
by brian
It's not hard to imagine them trying it, it's hard to imagine them getting away with it.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:27 pm
by P.D.X.
I hope in all of this at least one Dem says "We won, you lost, get over it!"
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:36 pm
by A_B
P.D.X. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:27 pm
I hope in all of this at least one Dem says "We won, you lost, get over it!"
My twitter/facebook feed contains a fair amount of this.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:15 pm
by Steve of phpBB
brian wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:27 pm
It's not hard to imagine them trying it, it's hard to imagine them getting away with it.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "get away with it". I assume the ultimate decisions would be made by the highest state court. I don't think federal courts would get involved.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:18 pm
by mister d
Wonder about the ideological makeup of the highest courts in Kentucky.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:32 pm
by A_B
mister d wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:18 pm
Wonder about the ideological makeup of the highest courts in Kentucky.
While they are technically non-partisan, they are elected officials (although if one quits, the positon is appointed by Governor until the next election). There was one up for election this week, and it was not the conservative who won.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:45 pm
by Johnnie
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:57 pm
by Johnnie
The other Peter King is retiring. Bye bitch!
How many Republican retirements is that now? Fucking losers.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:25 pm
by Joe K
“Head and shoulders.”
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:26 pm
by Johnnie
He is human dandruff, so...
But really, what the fuck, Chuck?
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:28 pm
by brian
I think there's an interesting story here about New York politics and there are all kinds of interesting different offshoots like how you get the Cuomos in power as "Democrats" despite being demonstrably conservative in most all respects and how rare it is to have machine bosses like Joe Crowley defeated by people like AOC.
It's a very clubby/corrupt atmosphere that in some respects dates back to Tammany Hall.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:29 pm
by Johnny Carwash
"Fiercely loved his Irish heritage" is an interesting way to say he was an unapologetic supporter of the IRA.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:35 pm
by L-Jam3
I thought that just meant he was a drunk.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:46 pm
by Joe K
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:29 pm
"Fiercely loved his Irish heritage" is an interesting way to say he was an unapologetic supporter of the IRA.
Yup. King personally supported the IRA and then called for mass surveillance of American Muslims in the guise of “anti-terrorism.”
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:47 pm
by mister d
Schumer’s statement should disqualify him from party leadership.
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:29 pm
"Fiercely loved his Irish heritage" is an interesting way to say he was an unapologetic supporter of the IRA.
Yup. King personally supported the IRA and then called for mass surveillance of American Muslims in the guise of “anti-terrorism.”
While the latter is grotesque, the former is not so much.
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:29 pm
"Fiercely loved his Irish heritage" is an interesting way to say he was an unapologetic supporter of the IRA.
Yup. King personally supported the IRA and then called for mass surveillance of American Muslims in the guise of “anti-terrorism.”
While the latter is grotesque, the former is not so much.
He was running fund raising operations for a terrorist group during the days the IRA was detonating car bombs in the streets of London. Fucking grotesque and criminal.
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:29 pm
"Fiercely loved his Irish heritage" is an interesting way to say he was an unapologetic supporter of the IRA.
Yup. King personally supported the IRA and then called for mass surveillance of American Muslims in the guise of “anti-terrorism.”
While the latter is grotesque, the former is not so much.
He was running fund raising operations for a terrorist group during the days the IRA was detonating car bombs in the streets of London. Fucking grotesque and criminal.
It's not that simple. Your terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:31 pm
by brian
Yeah, I've read enough about The Troubles to know (or at least believe) there was plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Neither side was in the right, but neither side was completely in the wrong either.
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:29 pm
"Fiercely loved his Irish heritage" is an interesting way to say he was an unapologetic supporter of the IRA.
Yup. King personally supported the IRA and then called for mass surveillance of American Muslims in the guise of “anti-terrorism.”
While the latter is grotesque, the former is not so much.
He was running fund raising operations for a terrorist group during the days the IRA was detonating car bombs in the streets of London. Fucking grotesque and criminal.
It's not that simple. Your terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
I totally agree with that sentiment, but I can't get behind anyone setting off bombs aimed at innocent civillians. I get that sometimes the powerless have no other way of attacking, but King raising funds for the IRA is in no way acceptable IMO.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:18 pm
by sancarlos
Chesa Boudin was elected district attorney in San Francisco last week. He has quite an interesting lineage, particularly for a big city DA. I trust you kids have heard of the Weather Underground?
“wiki” wrote:...the Weather Underground was a radical left militant organization active in the late 1960s and 1970s... Beginning in 1974, the organization's express political goal was to create a revolutionary party to overthrow what it viewed as American imperialism.
“wiki” wrote:Boudin was born in New York City. His parents, Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, were Weather Underground members.
When Boudin was 14 months old, his parents were arrested for murder in their role as getaway car drivers in the Brink's robbery of 1981 in Rockland County, New York. His mother was sentenced to 20 years to life and his father to 75 years to life for the felony murders of two police officers and a security guard. After his parents were incarcerated, Boudin was raised in Chicago by adoptive parents Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who, like his parents, had been members of the Weather Underground.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:24 pm
by EdRomero
sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:18 pm
Chesa Boudin was elected district attorney in San Francisco last week. He has quite an interesting lineage, particularly for a big city DA. I trust you kids have heard of the Weather Underground?
A friend of mine recently realized that Shock G was Humpty Hump.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:01 pm
by Joe K
I think it’s pretty wild that just 11 years after people tried to kill Obama’s political career by spreading conspiracies that Bill Ayers was his mentor and/or ghostwriter that Ayers’ actual adopted son got elected to a prominent law enforcement position.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:08 pm
by The Sybian
mister d wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:27 pm
A friend of mine recently realized that Shock G was Humpty Hump.
And that lead me down a rabbit hole into seeing that Big Daddy Kane now looks like Howard Stern's Beetlejuice
Yet the religious right in Israel and North America will denounce this as some sort of conspiracy. They may not share a belief in Jesus, but the black hat crowd shares with American Evangelicals the belief that someone who holds the reins of power can be done in by a conspiracy of liberals bent on the destruction of their own country.
Responding to the indictment, a pale-faced Netanyahu said in a televised speech that the “false” and “politically motivated” charges amounted to an “attempted coup” against him. “The public has lost trust in the legal system,” he said.
Yet the religious right in Israel and North America will denounce this as some sort of conspiracy. They may not share a belief in Jesus, but the black hat crowd shares with American Evangelicals the belief that someone who holds the reins of power can be done in by a conspiracy of liberals bent on the destruction of their own country.
Responding to the indictment, a pale-faced Netanyahu said in a televised speech that the “false” and “politically motivated” charges amounted to an “attempted coup” against him. “The public has lost trust in the legal system,” he said.
I think Liberals in the US have proven their inability to bring down someone in power.
Yet the religious right in Israel and North America will denounce this as some sort of conspiracy. They may not share a belief in Jesus, but the black hat crowd shares with American Evangelicals the belief that someone who holds the reins of power can be done in by a conspiracy of liberals bent on the destruction of their own country.
Responding to the indictment, a pale-faced Netanyahu said in a televised speech that the “false” and “politically motivated” charges amounted to an “attempted coup” against him. “The public has lost trust in the legal system,” he said.
I think Liberals in the US have proven their inability to bring down someone in power.
This wasn't an investigation launched by political opposition. It was a police investigation. Politically, the Liberals in Israel have lost the country. Thank God the police are independent.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:14 pm
by Johnnie
This speech is really, really good.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:03 am
by Johnnie
It's like the opposite reaction of Jesse Pinkman in that Breaking Bad scene with me right now.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:36 pm
by Johnnie
This is the new Prime Minister of Finland, Sanna Marin. She's 34!:
Finland will have the world’s youngest serving prime minister later this week when Sanna Marin, 34, is sworn in by parliament at the head of a coalition whose four other parties are all led by women, three of them in their thirties
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:34 am
by Joe K
This is quite the bleak read:
What a complete debacle, in so many respects.
Re: Random Politics
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:21 pm
by Pruitt
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Re: Random Politics
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:39 am
by Johnnie
What! No way!
(Can't wait until I'm retired and other people's kids can fight these bullshit wars.)