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Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:27 am
by mister d
Texas is all sorts of stupid and right now most politicians could fuck a child on live TV and the outrage would be shouted down as "cancel culture".

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:10 pm
by The Sybian
mister d wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:27 am Texas is all sorts of stupid and right now most politicians could fuck a child on live TV and the outrage would be shouted down as "cancel culture".
Yes! After the Access Hollywood tape, there is no such thing as a moment that can end a Republican. And Trump has topped that dozens of times over. There is nothing a member of the GOP can do (other than doing the right thing in an impeachment) that the rest of the GOP won't rally behind and excuse.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:36 pm
by psunate77
Biden telling Desantis to fuck off..


Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:59 pm
by EnochRoot
Texas, Land of Wind & Lies.
However, that changed around a day after the severity of the disaster became apparent. Republican politicians and right-wing media, not content with run-of-the-mill blame-shifting, have coalesced around a malicious falsehood instead — the claim that wind and solar power caused the collapse of the Texas power grid, and that radical environmentalists are somehow responsible for the fact that millions of people are freezing in the dark, even though conservative Republicans have run the state for a generation.

This isn’t normal political malfeasance. It’s the energy-policy equivalent of claiming that the Jan. 6 insurrection was a false-flag Antifa operation — raw denial of reality, not just to escape accountability, but to demonize one’s opponents. And it’s another indicator of the moral and intellectual collapse of American conservatism.
It’s also true that extreme cold forced some of the state’s insufficiently winterized wind turbines to shut down, but as I said, this was happening to Texas energy sources across the board, with the worst problems involving natural gas.

Why, then, the all-out effort to falsely place the blame on wind power?

The incentives are obvious. Attacking wind power is a way for both elected officials and free-market ideologues to dodge responsibility for botched deregulation; it’s a way to please fossil fuel interests, which give the vast bulk of their political contributions to Republicans; and since progressives tend to favor renewable energy, it’s a way to own the libs. And it all dovetails with climate change denial.

But why do they think they can get away with such an obvious lie? The answer, surely, is that those peddling the lie know that they’re operating in a post-truth political landscape. When two-thirds of Republicans believe that Antifa was involved in the assault on the Capitol, selling the base a bogus narrative about the Texas electricity disaster is practically child’s play.

And if you’re expecting any change in the policies that helped cause this disaster, don’t count on it — at least as long as Texas remains Republican. Given everything else we’ve seen, the best bet is that demonization of wind power, not a realistic understanding of what actually happened, will rule policy going forward.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:13 pm
by psunate77
What the Fuck?? Is DeSantis really this bad?


Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:06 pm
by Johnnie
Dude, he left his dog alone?!?

What the fuck. I don't even have a dog and this is infuriating.

He might actually get got because being a dog owner is bipartisan.

(His dog is named - I shit you not - Snowflake.)


Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:10 pm
by brian
Johnnie wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:06 pm Dude, he left his dog alone?!?

What the fuck. I don't even have a dog and this is infuriating.

He might actually get got because being a dog owner is bipartisan.

(His dog is named - I shit you not - Snowflake.)
I'm gonna have to give him the benefit of the doubt on this because I doubt he was just gonna leave his dog at home for four days with no one to take care of it.

We used to leave our dog at home because that's where they were comfortable but we had a doggy door so they could go in and out at will and if we didn't have someone actually staying there housesitting like one of our friend's teen kids or my buddy Chad, we'd at least have one of the teen kids coming over twice a day to hang out with them and replace their food and water. I assume at minimum they had setup the latter.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:28 pm
by P.D.X.
Not that strange except... it's in a winter storm where power/heat is in flux and houses are literally freezing.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:34 pm
by A_B
It's not like he left the dog stranded in a sewer, guys.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:47 pm
by brian
P.D.X. wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:28 pm Not that strange except... it's in a winter storm where power/heat is in flux and houses are literally freezing.
Sure, I'm just saying I'm pretty sure there was someone in Houston who was taking care of the dog one way or another. If they lost power at the Cruz household I'm sure the caretaker would have taken Snowflake to their house or something. I could be wrong of course, but I doubt the plan was to just let the dog fend for itself for four days.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:49 pm
by Giff
I really try to avoid politics with my mom, but I want to throw this AOC stuff in her face so badly.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:50 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:13 pm
So apparently Neera Tanden's nomination is going to be sunk by Joe Manchin?

That's pretty funny.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:50 pm
by mister d
Right vote, wrong reason, also this:




Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:54 pm
by Johnnie
I hadn't even thought of this angle that would keep this story in the mainstream:

Cruz family’s Cancun trip rattles their private school

Parents demand enforcement of quarantine rules that will keep the senator’s children out of class.


This dude needs to quit politics and move somewhere else.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:38 pm
by Pruitt
Johnnie wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:06 pm Dude, he left his dog alone?!?

What the fuck. I don't even have a dog and this is infuriating.

He might actually get got because being a dog owner is bipartisan.

(His dog is named - I shit you not - Snowflake.)
No way in hell the Cruz family doesn't have a nice quiet underpaid Latina woman cleaning the house and taking care of the pooch.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 am
by Pruitt
The Virginia G.O.P. Voted on Its Future. The Losers Reject the Results.

Meet the new G.O.P. - trying to keep the Gubernatorial nomination away from a raving lunatic.
There is little establishment support for Ms. Chase, who last month was censured by her State Senate colleagues and stripped of committee assignments after she called the rioters at the Capitol “patriots.” She has recently been required to sit in a plexiglass box after refusing to wear a mask during Senate sessions. Ms. Chase has called it her “square of freedom.”

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:29 am
by govmentchedda
My wife is heading to Richmond in a week. I really want a photo of the still broken windows of VAGOPHQ.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:41 am
by brian

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:09 pm
by Reaper
Not that it's going to start a mass exodus or anything, but noteworthy nonetheless, Arkansas State Senator Jim Hendren leaving the GOP to go independent.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:15 am
by psunate77
I hope this isn't true, but how can you trust the Secret Service now?

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:43 pm
by Pruitt
Yeah - that sure seems like an unimpeachable source.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:30 am
by Johnnie
This is such a great 'Fuck You' to Ted Cruz.


Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:31 pm
by L-Jam3

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:08 pm
by DaveInSeattle
Aidy Bryant was pretty great as Cruz on SNL...


Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:27 pm
by psunate77
L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:31 pm
By 2024 all this will be forgotten..

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:50 pm
by DaveInSeattle
psunate77 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:27 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:31 pm
By 2024 all this will be forgotten..
If any candidate going against Cruz, including the Republicans running for President, let him forget this they should be sued for political malpractice.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:51 am
by The Sybian
DaveInSeattle wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:50 pm
psunate77 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:27 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:31 pm
By 2024 all this will be forgotten..
If any candidate going against Cruz, including the Republicans running for President, let him forget this they should be sued for political malpractice.
OTOH, he will do and say so many horrible things between now and 2024, this may be down the list.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:28 am
by psunate77
Perdue is out for 2022, looks like it will most likely be Collins vs Warnock. Unless Collins runs for Governor.


Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:19 am
by Pruitt
Critics slam Sen. Ron Johnson for unfounded claim that ‘fake Trump protesters’ led riots
Johnson claimed that the “great majority” of protesters had a “jovial, friendly, earnest demeanor” and blamed the violence that turned deadly on “plainclothes militants, agent provocateurs, fake Trump protesters, and disciplined uniformed column of attackers.”

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:50 am
by EnochRoot
Pruitt wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:19 am Critics slam Sen. Ron Johnson for unfounded claim that ‘fake Trump protesters’ led riots
Johnson claimed that the “great majority” of protesters had a “jovial, friendly, earnest demeanor” and blamed the violence that turned deadly on “plainclothes militants, agent provocateurs, fake Trump protesters, and disciplined uniformed column of attackers.”
Ah...The modern day GOP argumentum a mala fide, or argument from bad faith.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:04 am
by L-Jam3
I get they wouldn't do it because they don't want to risk losing access, but it'd be nice once in a while if reporters made pushed back more. Such as "Senator, we all saw and heard video of the Capitol attack. Where are you getting the evidence of your claim that they were false Trump supporters?" And if he says he heard it somewhere, keep pressing. Then simply repeat it back. "So Senator, you are claiming that counter the video evidence we all saw, some guy somewhere told you that he heard the protestors were really fake Trump supporters. Do I have that correct?"

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:37 am
by The Sybian
L-Jam3 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:04 am I get they wouldn't do it because they don't want to risk losing access, but it'd be nice once in a while if reporters made pushed back more. Such as "Senator, we all saw and heard video of the Capitol attack. Where are you getting the evidence of your claim that they were false Trump supporters?" And if he says he heard it somewhere, keep pressing. Then simply repeat it back. "So Senator, you are claiming that counter the video evidence we all saw, some guy somewhere told you that he heard the protestors were really fake Trump supporters. Do I have that correct?"
I read that he named the website where he got the information, and it was some far Right nutjob site I never heard of. I did not independently confirm. I do wonder if the insurrectionists are insulted by being labelled as Antifa.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:22 am
by L-Jam3
"Senator, I am personally not familiar with that website. Your constituents and the taxpayers who pay yours and your staff's salary would like to know whether you confirmed that claim with a more well-known source such as the AP, Reuters, or the Wall Street Journal? And if not, do you implicitly believe everything you read that's published on the internet?"

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:35 am
by L-Jam3
Seriously, though. These Republican motherfuckers are soft. Keep them on the defensive, and they'll fold faster than the Flash on laundry day. And if they get angry and flip the fuck out, well, cameras don't lie.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:40 am
by P.D.X.
The Sybian wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:37 am I did not independently confirm. I do wonder if the insurrectionists are insulted by being labelled as Antifa.
There have been accounts that they're pissed that antifa is getting credit for their little revolution.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:50 am
by BSF21
L-Jam3 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:35 am they'll fold faster than the Flash on laundry day.
Stealing the shit out of that.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:09 pm
by DaveInSeattle
The Virginia GOP decides to double down on the nutty...


Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:31 pm
by DaveInSeattle
Why isn't this guy in jail?


Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:51 pm
by brian
If he was a Democrat he would have been executed by now.

Re: Random Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:52 pm
by psunate77
brian wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:51 pm If he was a Democrat he would have been executed by now.
Just like Ted Kennedy