The Swamp

...And that did not take long for our first touchdown of the 2013 season.

I suppose you are all on pins and needles anticipating the really big game of the week, on Saturday... - Colorado State vs. Colorado! How big is it? It might be the best opportunity either of them have all season to win a game! Rocky Mountain High! (Go, Rams!)

Jadeveon Clowney fatigue is going to be a real thing this year I can tell.

brian wrote:Jadeveon Clowney fatigue is going to be a real thing this year I can tell.

Even cost him a few plays.

AB_skin_test wrote:

brian wrote:Jadeveon Clowney fatigue is going to be a real thing this year I can tell.

Even cost him a few plays.

I meant getting tired of hearing about him every play, but yeah that too.

I know what tou meant. Dont tune in to ole miss game for simolar reasons

AB_skin_test wrote:I know what tou meant. Dont tune in to ole miss game for simolar reasons

Oh I'm watching. Always hopeful Millen will have a stroke on the air. So stupid of them to hype a true freshman. At least Clowney has a track record.

Hell of a game in Salt Lake City for Fox Sports 1's first ever football game.

brian wrote:Hell of a game in Salt Lake City for Fox Sports 1's first ever football game.

Unlike what's going on in Hawai'i

5-3 Warriors over USC in the 2Q (or maybe it's inning.)

The ending of that Ole Miss-Vandy game was bonkers.

USC's OL is horrible. They're going to get their QBs killed this year.

Well, either RU & Fresno can play O, or neither is gonna stop anyone.

I'm thinking the former...

Nice job by Towson getting the Upset over UConn. Way to pull together after the cheerleader distraction.

brian wrote:Jadeveon Clowney fatigue is going to be a real thing this year I can tell.

I watched a bit of this last night while waiting for the Titans Vikings game and feck me they were all over him like a rash!

First they circled him, tell you he is No.7, tell you how great he is and then they followed the play. Then they slow mo his part in that play. They did this all game, except they decided not to circle him live pre-snap all the time.

Don't get me wrong, he is a great athlete and maybe he deserves the hype, but I am old enough to have seen LT, Bruce Smith and Reggie play and until he plays a down on Sunday, he is just another guy.

Tom 1860 wrote:

brian wrote:Jadeveon Clowney fatigue is going to be a real thing this year I can tell.

I watched a bit of this last night while waiting for the Titans Vikings game and feck me they were all over him like a rash!

First they circled him, tell you he is No.7, tell you how great he is and then they followed the play. Then they slow mo his part in that play. They did this all game, except they decided not to circle him live pre-snap all the time.

Don't get me wrong, he is a great athlete and maybe he deserves the hype, but I am old enough to have seen LT, Bruce Smith and Reggie play and until he plays a down on Sunday, he is just another guy.

Keep in mind you're watching a college football game.

Brontoburglar wrote:

Tom 1860 wrote:

brian wrote:Jadeveon Clowney fatigue is going to be a real thing this year I can tell.

I watched a bit of this last night while waiting for the Titans Vikings game and feck me they were all over him like a rash!

First they circled him, tell you he is No.7, tell you how great he is and then they followed the play. Then they slow mo his part in that play. They did this all game, except they decided not to circle him live pre-snap all the time.

Don't get me wrong, he is a great athlete and maybe he deserves the hype, but I am old enough to have seen LT, Bruce Smith and Reggie play and until he plays a down on Sunday, he is just another guy.

Keep in mind you're watching a college football game.

I think that was kind of Tom's point. Over the years, there have been many dominant college d-linemen. Clowney's play in the bowl game last year was epic and he deserves accolades as a great college player. But, many of those did not prove to be dominant in the pros. Tom is saying he will reserve judgment on Clowney's purported greatness until he sees him at the next level. As example, old guys like howard and hdo may remember a guy named Hugh Green who was an absolute beast in college, but just another guy in the pros.
ETA: I just checked wiki and found that Hugh Green did make two pro bowls in his eleven year career, so I suppose it is unfair for me to call him "just another guy", but in any case, he wasn't nearly the beast in the pros that he was in college.

sancarlos wrote: I think that was kind of Tom's point. Over the years, there have been many dominant college d-linemen. Clowney's play in the bowl game last year was epic and he deserves accolades as a great college player. But, many of those did not prove to be dominant in the pros. Tom is saying he will reserve judgment on Clowney's purported greatness until he sees him at the next level. As example, old guys like howard and hdo may remember a guy named Hugh Green who was an absolute beast in college, but just another guy in the pros.

Actually, his play in the bowl game was mediocre. Taylor Lewan was handling him for most of the game. He had one big hit that was incredible and built upon his legend. Most every game he played last year was better than his bowl game.

Yeah, that hit may have turned the casual observer onto him, but Clowney was a huge deal well before that play.

His highschool highlight tape looks like someone created a 7' tall 99 speed player in Madden.

sancarlos wrote:

Brontoburglar wrote:

Tom 1860 wrote: I watched a bit of this last night while waiting for the Titans Vikings game and feck me they were all over him like a rash!

First they circled him, tell you he is No.7, tell you how great he is and then they followed the play. Then they slow mo his part in that play. They did this all game, except they decided not to circle him live pre-snap all the time.

Don't get me wrong, he is a great athlete and maybe he deserves the hype, but I am old enough to have seen LT, Bruce Smith and Reggie play and until he plays a down on Sunday, he is just another guy.

Keep in mind you're watching a college football game.

I think that was kind of Tom's point. Over the years, there have been many dominant college d-linemen. Clowney's play in the bowl game last year was epic and he deserves accolades as a great college player. But, many of those did not prove to be dominant in the pros. Tom is saying he will reserve judgment on Clowney's purported greatness until he sees him at the next level. As example, old guys like howard and hdo may remember a guy named Hugh Green who was an absolute beast in college, but just another guy in the pros.
ETA: I just checked wiki and found that Hugh Green did make two pro bowls in his eleven year career, so I suppose it is unfair for me to call him "just another guy", but in any case, he wasn't nearly the beast in the pros that he was in college.

While you're not going to find me saying the hype around Clowney isn't overblown, the dude is a freaking stud, as melted-weiner just said.

However, given the attention paid to him by opposing offenses, I would have taken the under like crazy at Bovada on 18.5 sacks this season. (He had 13 last year)

He's gonna get run away from all year. Deion Sanders D-Line version.

Gunpowder wrote:Yeah, that hit may have turned the casual observer onto him, but Clowney was a huge deal well before that play.

His highschool highlight tape looks like someone created a 7' tall 99 speed player in Madden.

Damn. The first few minutes are incredible.



Actually, I'm sure the rest is as well, but it gets repetitive. It reminds me of reading about Julius Peppers being a 6'7" 280lb running back in high school. I might have to see if there's tape of that ...

brian wrote:

sancarlos wrote: I think that was kind of Tom's point. Over the years, there have been many dominant college d-linemen. Clowney's play in the bowl game last year was epic and he deserves accolades as a great college player. But, many of those did not prove to be dominant in the pros. Tom is saying he will reserve judgment on Clowney's purported greatness until he sees him at the next level. As example, old guys like howard and hdo may remember a guy named Hugh Green who was an absolute beast in college, but just another guy in the pros.

Actually, his play in the bowl game was mediocre. Taylor Lewan was handling him for most of the game. He had one big hit that was incredible and built upon his legend. Most every game he played last year was better than his bowl game.

Just to be clear, actually, I was referring to the one highlight reel play, when I said "his play". I didn't even see the game, and wasn't referring to his play over the course of the game.

Gotcha. We're on the same page then

He apparently was suffering from some sort if illness and had hardly eaten anything prior to the game.

It's only the 2nd quarter, but Wyoming is beating Nebraska. If they somehow hold on and win, I wish I could party with Bobby P. tonight!

FCS Eastern Washington taking it to OSU in Corvallis, 43-39 in the fourth. Sure, it's only the Beavers, but they are (were) ranked 25th. If the small school can force a punt, which they haven't since the first half, they might win this mess.

The list of schools to be ranked in the top 25 & lose to a FCS team is now:

Michigan (App St)
Virginia Tech (James Madison)
Oregon State (E Washington)

Anyone else hoping Manziel has a short but memorably shitty NFL career?

Clemson Georgia is entertaining,

sancarlos wrote:I suppose you are all on pins and needles anticipating the really big game of the week, on Saturday... - Colorado State vs. Colorado! How big is it? It might be the best opportunity either of them have all season to win a game! Rocky Mountain High! (Go, Rams!)

I waited all day for this game only to discover it's on Sunday.

Damn you SC!!!

Shrew wrote:Clemson Georgia is entertaining,

Indeed. So was the Syracuse -v- Penn State game earlier today. As was the Vanderbilt -v- Ole Miss on opening night; wild and whacky, that one, with a great finish.

Good buddha the faux moral indignation surrounding Manziel is annoying. He got an unsportsmanlike penalty, he did not piss on a quadriplegic six year old visiting College Station for their Make a Wish wish (worst dying with ever, btw).

He is a terrible sport. He did this shit all last year, too. He was able to back it up, of course, but that makes him no less of a douche.

Georgia announced today that its best receiver, Malcolm Mitchell, blew out his ACL and is gone for the season. He blew the ACL celebrating in the end zone following Todd Gurley's 75 yd touchdown run on Georgia's second series vs. Clemson. It may not be the Dawg's year.

On the other hand, I was surprised UGA opened as 5.5 pt favorite over South Carolina last night. Its already down to three, but it may be one of those head scratcher lines where hopefully the Vegas guys know a litle something.

This Jameis Winston kid for Florida State looks like the truth. 17-of-18 for 240 yards, 3 TDs passing and 1 TD rushing.

....In the first half.

Not too bad for a freshman in his first ever start.

Maybe the Swamp can raise a couple thousand for a round of his autographs.

brian wrote:This Jameis Winston kid for Florida State looks like the truth. 17-of-18 for 240 yards, 3 TDs passing and 1 TD rushing.

....In the first half.

Hey look, another QB that the Longhorns didn't want! RG3 and Manziel would've been awful fits as well.

brian wrote:The list of schools to be ranked in the top 25 & lose to a FCS team is now:

Michigan (App St)
Virginia Tech (James Madison)
Oregon State (E Washington)

What a fucking disaster. And we deserved every bit of it.

brian wrote:This Jameis Winston kid for Florida State looks like the truth. 17-of-18 for 240 yards, 3 TDs passing and 1 TD rushing.

....In the first half.

And the incompletion was a missed call of the toe-tap.

ROLL TIDE.

ETA: The video at the end had me in tears.