It's the sixth version of The Swamp. What could possibly go wrong?
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He was pretty good earlier in the season. You're right he may have something that happened over the course of this season and if so that would explain a lot, but he still has lazy footwork and mechanics regardless.Gunpowder wrote:I don't think Stafford is physically right with that arm.
You'd imagine they'd have caught anything but he could have decided not to have a surgery that he needs. He used to throw normally. Now he's basically Stan Belinda and his throws float on him.
Certainly like that option bette than Lovie or Wisenhunt. No retreads, please.brian wrote:Not quite there yet, but we basically are for about 15 teams. Lotsa rumors about the Texans getting ready to hire Bill O'Brien, which bums me out since I was hoping the Lions would make a run at him for their opening in two weeks.
Add Schwartz, officially.brian wrote:Might as well tie up the Black Monday stuff in here.
Latest news is Schiano is out in Tampa Bay. That makes four firings already:
Chudszynski (CLE)
Shanahan (WAS)
Frazier (MIN)
Schiano (TB)
He's had almost 15,000 yards the last three seasons, 10,000 of which were to guys not named Calvin. He's got the ability, it's a question of someone harnessing it and him working on it like the great QBs have always had to do. Tom Brady didn't come out of the womb throwing BBs.AB_skin_test wrote:Are we sure Stafford is a potential franchise QB or are we sure Megatron would make anyone with a strong arm look like a franchise QB?
His past two games without full strenght megatron aren't anything special, especially when last week they were in a MUST WIN sitch.
There's a few guys I'd be happy with though Smith isn't really one of them, even if I agree with you that it would probably improve the team's discipline. The reports are that they're going to be looking for an offensive guy. One retread I wouldn't really mind would be Whisenhut. He's done wonders in a year with Rivers and seemed to always have pretty disciplined teams in Arizona. If not for their salary cap situation he probably wouldn't have been let go there after last year.degenerasian wrote:Brian:
I think that the Lions should look at Lovie Smith as their next HC. His teams were disciplined if not a little vanilla.....and that is Detroit's biggest poblem, they cant get out of their own way.
brian wrote:He's had almost 15,000 yards the last three seasons, 10,000 of which were to guys not named Calvin. He's got the ability, it's a question of someone harnessing it and him working on it like the great QBs have always had to do. Tom Brady didn't come out of the womb throwing BBs.AB_skin_test wrote:Are we sure Stafford is a potential franchise QB or are we sure Megatron would make anyone with a strong arm look like a franchise QB?
His past two games without full strenght megatron aren't anything special, especially when last week they were in a MUST WIN sitch.
It's more than the Lions have had at that position since 1957. So I'll take it.AB_skin_test wrote:brian wrote:He's had almost 15,000 yards the last three seasons, 10,000 of which were to guys not named Calvin. He's got the ability, it's a question of someone harnessing it and him working on it like the great QBs have always had to do. Tom Brady didn't come out of the womb throwing BBs.AB_skin_test wrote:Are we sure Stafford is a potential franchise QB or are we sure Megatron would make anyone with a strong arm look like a franchise QB?
His past two games without full strenght megatron aren't anything special, especially when last week they were in a MUST WIN sitch.
But the difference may be that Stafford did come out throwing BBs. He throws a beautiful ball. Super strong arm. I am not convinced he's much more than an above average QB yet, however. And your "10,000" to people other than Johnson rings hollow a bit because those yards were thrown to guys who were more open because of Johnson's presence.
This argument could have been applied to Montana, of course, who happened to have Jerry Rice to throw it to all those years. Steve Young as well. But they managed to take their teams to the playoffs consistently and of course won titles as well, which Stafford hasn't done.
Roethlisberger has unquestionably less arm talent than Stafford and also never had a Megatron. Flacco went to the playoffs his first five years.
Granted, some of this comes back to the rest of the team around a QB (most notably defensive units that were elite which stafford has not had). But also remember that Brady and Rodgers went to the Super Bowl with league worst defenses.
He may end up being a franchise QB. He's just 25. But he needs something to change to make me concede that point. Right now he's not a franchise QB, he's Jeff George.
brian wrote:He's had almost 15,000 yards the last three seasons, 10,000 of which were to guys not named Calvin. He's got the ability, it's a question of someone harnessing it and him working on it like the great QBs have always had to do. Tom Brady didn't come out of the womb throwing BBs.AB_skin_test wrote:Are we sure Stafford is a potential franchise QB or are we sure Megatron would make anyone with a strong arm look like a franchise QB?
His past two games without full strenght megatron aren't anything special, especially when last week they were in a MUST WIN sitch.
brian wrote:There's a few guys I'd be happy with though Smith isn't really one of them, even if I agree with you that it would probably improve the team's discipline. The reports are that they're going to be looking for an offensive guy. One retread I wouldn't really mind would be Whisenhut. He's done wonders in a year with Rivers and seemed to always have pretty disciplined teams in Arizona. If not for their salary cap situation he probably wouldn't have been let go there after last year.degenerasian wrote:Brian:
I think that the Lions should look at Lovie Smith as their next HC. His teams were disciplined if not a little vanilla.....and that is Detroit's biggest poblem, they cant get out of their own way.
@jessespector: The Twitter results for a “lane kiffin redskins browns” search aren’t as fun as I hoped.
Just read on twitter that Gary Kubiak is also said to be a candidate in Tampa.govmentchedda wrote:Rumors are that Lovie Smith is the favorite for the Bucs job, and he's already got an agreement with Jeff Tedford to be his OC, wherever he goes. I think I'd be on board with those hires for the Bucs.
Bill Barnwell makes the case for Allen, in Grantlandhoward wrote:Oakland Raiders coach Dennis Allen has 'indications' that he will return
Seems GM McKenzie also likely to stay. I guess I'll move a step closer to full-fledged fan, and pay attention to personnel moves this offseason. But if they bring Chucky Gruden back, I will be frustrated and less interested.
.In Oakland, the chatter suggesting that head coach Dennis Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie might hit the unemployment line seems horrifically unfair. The Raiders have basically had to spend the last two seasons getting out from under a decade of bad contracts handed out in the last days of the Al Davis administration and the insipid Carson Palmer trade pushed through by then-coach Hue Jackson in the power vacuum after Davis's death, a deal that cost the Raiders two high draft picks. The Raiders had a truly staggering $55 million in dead money on their cap this season, a figure that's due to fall to a mere $9.3 million for 2014. They'll have — not a typo — $66.6 million in cap space heading into 2014, in a market in which nobody has money to spend. Allen and McKenzie have had no hope of winning the past two seasons. Now that they've cleared the deck, they deserve time to work on building a winner in Oakland
howard wrote:Oakland Raiders coach Dennis Allen has 'indications' that he will return
Seems GM McKenzie also likely to stay. I guess I'll move a step closer to full-fledged fan, and pay attention to personnel moves this offseason. But if they bring Chucky Gruden back, I will be frustrated and less interested.
Thing is, both the Browns and the Raiders brought in guys who were not coveted by any other teams. Instead of giving the coaches time to work it out, they see them as being disposable parts that should be replaced regularly until the miracle occurs and either one of these crap franchises starts winning.Gunpowder wrote:If the head coach isn't demonstrably a bad coach, teams like Oakland and Cleveland should not be firing him.
I do thick and thin for only one team, the baseball Giants. And those old senile Al Davis years were traumatic. But, yeah.Gunpowder wrote:You're such a diva fan, Doc.
Tom Cable did pretty well, developing JaMarcus Russell, right?brian wrote:I pretty much think it's a necessity at this point for the Lions to hire a head coach who has a history of developing QBs.
Yeah, I'll blow Kranepool's goat if they hire Tom Cable. There's so much bad information, mis-information and just plain wrong information related to these coaching searches, that I don't really buy anything until there's an official announcement from the team.sancarlos wrote:Tom Cable did pretty well, developing JaMarcus Russell, right?brian wrote:I pretty much think it's a necessity at this point for the Lions to hire a head coach who has a history of developing QBs.
Jay Glazer now reporting that Lovie was indeed hired by the Bucs.govmentchedda wrote:Rumors are that Lovie Smith is the favorite for the Bucs job, and he's already got an agreement with Jeff Tedford to be his OC, wherever he goes. I think I'd be on board with those hires for the Bucs.
New rumor is that Marinelli will be DC as well.sancarlos wrote:Jay Glazer now reporting that Lovie was indeed hired by the Bucs.govmentchedda wrote:Rumors are that Lovie Smith is the favorite for the Bucs job, and he's already got an agreement with Jeff Tedford to be his OC, wherever he goes. I think I'd be on board with those hires for the Bucs.
I like this guy.