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Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:15 pm
by The Sybian
sancarlos wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 pm Sorry, bud. Make it a priority at your next job that they also include west coast business trips.
That would be ideal. Glad I got a final trip in and one to Seattle right before I left. I appreciate all the support, but not down (yet). Actually a little excited about the postings I'm seeing, so maybe not a bad thing in the end? And it's a generous package considering I've only been there a little over a year, and they must be RIFing at least 60 people today.

Really glad I happened to notice our contract with the career outplacement firm was expiring and finished renegotiated a new contract last week.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:27 pm
by MaxWebster
:( shit Syb, I'm real sorry.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:29 pm
by DaveInSeattle
That sucks Syb...hang in there...

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 pm
by Shirley
13 weeks of severance is pretty sweet though. You even have a chance to double dip for a while if you land something soon.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:04 pm
by sancarlos
Shirley wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 pm 13 weeks of severance is pretty sweet though. You even have a chance to double dip for a while if you land something soon.
Back in 2002, i got a six week severance package, left on a Friday, started the new job on Monday.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:36 am
by DSafetyGuy
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Two checks at the same time.
In my personal experience, the only thing better is three checks at the same time.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:48 am
by govmentchedda
DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:36 am Neighbor.jpeg
Two checks at the same time.
In my personal experience, the only thing better is three checks at the same time.
Fuckin' A

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:10 am
by L-Jam3
Aw shit, Syb. Sorry to hear. Three months plus PTO is a good time to do self-assessment for your next destination.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:24 am
by The Sybian
DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:36 am Neighbor.jpeg
Two checks at the same time.
In my personal experience, the only thing better is three checks at the same time.
Now that DiS is getting married, we need TB to start posting these kinds of stories.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:25 am
by Johnnie
DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:36 am Neighbor.jpeg
Two checks at the same time.
In my personal experience, the only thing better is three checks at the same time.
That'll be March 1st for me.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:01 pm
by elflaco2
wow sorry syb, that sucks. beers?
we just did a small reorg and my team grew as a result

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:19 pm
by The Sybian
elflaco2 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:01 pm wow sorry syb, that sucks. beers?
we just did a small reorg and my team grew as a result
Beers, hot sauce, I'll take whatever I can get.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:07 pm
by Steve of phpBB
The Sybian wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:15 pm
sancarlos wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 pm Sorry, bud. Make it a priority at your next job that they also include west coast business trips.
That would be ideal. Glad I got a final trip in and one to Seattle right before I left. I appreciate all the support, but not down (yet). Actually a little excited about the postings I'm seeing, so maybe not a bad thing in the end? And it's a generous package considering I've only been there a little over a year, and they must be RIFing at least 60 people today.

Really glad I happened to notice our contract with the career outplacement firm was expiring and finished renegotiated a new contract last week.
It's good to see this is your attitude.

I'd have to fight hard to start looking for work right away with that much severance and paid vacation time.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:36 am
by MaxWebster
"can I do an ask?"

- uttered by someone just now in a Teams meeting

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:03 pm
by P.D.X.
Oh yeah that one drove me crazy when I was an office schlub. Or "What is the ask?" grrr

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:49 pm
by MaxWebster
it really doesn't matter obviously but then again...i think it does.

that kind of bullshit corp-speak drives me nuts. it's like in sports when they talk about "growing the game"

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:41 pm
by DaveInSeattle
P.D.X. wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:03 pm Or "What is the ask?" grrr
In my new role as dealing with Customer Support tickets, I have found myself saying that...and hating myself as the words leave my mouth.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:47 pm
by DaveInSeattle
So the guy who has been the royal PITA...

A recap, for anyone interested:
[+] spoiler
So...for about the last 6 months, my main responsibility is handling the escalations that come over to R&D when a customer calls into our CX department and they can't resolve the issue. This mainly entails coordinating between Salesforce and ADO, and running daily triage meetings...one for our older instrument, and one for our newer platform. It's a pain, but things have calmed down to the point where I'm able to change the cadence of triage meetings to twice a week.

Anyways, the issue is this one guy, a developer, about my age, who is currently the only person who is tasked with providing support for the older instrument. It's 100% of his time, and he's not happy about it. And, because I am the PM running the triage, I get to be his sounding board for him to bitch and moan and whine about how the company isn't supporting that platform, how he deserves a raise, how he doesn't think the CX guys know what they are doing, etc.

And its not just on occasion...when I'm in the office, he comes over to my desk at least 3 or 4 times a day to go through all this. Really makes me not want to go into the office at all. And when I'm working from home, he'll hit me on Teams with "Are you coming into the office today? I need to talk to you".

And I've had it....I want to tell him that if he keeps riding my ass like this, OSHA is going to make me install hand rails. I want to tell him "I am not your manager...if you aren't happy, talk to your manager. Or quit"...but I can't/won't do that. Because if he left the company, we'd really be screwed on providing that customer support. And I get it...as a former developer, I would have hated to be stuck doing these reactive calls. And I've tried to get other people freed up to help out so he can work on other things, but I've been shot down. And just now, I got another teams message "Are you coming in today?" and then a meeting invite to talk at 9am.

Sorry...needed to vent...before I go into this meeting with him and tell him to back the fuck off.
has gotten so bad that the guys from the Customer Support have come to me to complain that he is basically being an asshole to them when he's working with them, and being "completely unprofessional" during the triage meetings.

So I just came out of a meeting with his manager about this, and his manager is trying to unruffle the feathers.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:06 pm
by MaxWebster
it's altogether too easy to pivot into that lane isn't it
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:41 pm
P.D.X. wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:03 pm Or "What is the ask?" grrr
In my new role as dealing with Customer Support tickets, I have found myself saying that...and hating myself as the words leave my mouth.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:10 pm
by EnochRoot
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Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:11 pm
by EnochRoot
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Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:25 am
by Steve of phpBB
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:41 pm
P.D.X. wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:03 pm Or "What is the ask?" grrr
In my new role as dealing with Customer Support tickets, I have found myself saying that...and hating myself as the words leave my mouth.
Didn’t Calvin and Hobbes have a thing about Calvin nouning verbs? Or was that verbing nouns?

Anyway, “what’s the ask” is much more concise than “what are they asking for”. So I’ll bet this one sticks.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:26 am
by P.D.X.
In that case I guess they'll do away with inefficient phrases like "it is what it is" and "be that as it may" etc.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:36 am
by Steve of phpBB
Aren’t those more efficient than “there’s nothing we can do about that” and “even though that’s the case”?

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:04 pm
by P.D.X.
Who knew lawyerin’ was so wordy!

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:29 pm
by mister d
If it’s all about efficiency they should probably move on to “ask huh?”

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:12 pm
by DaveInSeattle
Finally...some good news for us!

Court of Appeal judges pave way back to European market for NanoString
BREAKING: The Court of Appeal today overturned the Munich local division's preliminary injunction against NanoString in Europe, allowing the company to return to most European markets. The court also refused to stay the proceedings due to NanoString's Chapter 11 filing in the US.

The Court of Appeal of the Unified Patent Court has just made legal history by issuing its long-awaited judgment in the appeal proceedings between 10X Genomics and NanoString. The court’s local division in Munich had heard the preliminary injunction dispute in December.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:52 pm
by Nonlinear FC
"What's the request?" is short, to the point and not douchey.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:52 pm
by Nonlinear FC
Also, you can also just say "that's just the way it is" and avoid using the "it is what it is" nonsense.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:50 pm
by MaxWebster
no question this nouning-of-verbs is something that really grinds my compete level

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:53 pm
by sancarlos
MaxWebster wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:50 pm no question this nouning-of-verbs is something that really grinds my compete level
Sly.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:02 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:52 pm Also, you can also just say "that's just the way it is" and avoid using the "it is what it is" nonsense.
Six syllables instead of five.

Even more if you keep going with the "Do-do-doo do-do-doo, do-do-doo" in your head.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:32 pm
by Giff
Literally just used "here is the ask" in an e-mail and thought of y'all.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:24 am
by MaxWebster
now i'm actually sorry i even brought it up LOL


(when i started at this job ~4yrs ago they'd also just hired what turned out to be the worst person i've ever worked with and the only way to cope with her on a daily basis was to put together a list of her bullshit phrases - like this one but the extended remix - and a few of us had a bingo game later in her (only) year where we'd see how many of them we could echo back to her in a single stand-up meeting.)

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:15 am
by HaulCitgo
corporate speak is helpful because it makes it plain who the idiots, salesmen and scammers are. otherwise you might be duped DJT

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:32 am
by degenerasian
A project manager used "project cadance" the other day. Still don't know what it means.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:20 pm
by DaveInSeattle
degenerasian wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:32 am A project manager used "project cadance" the other day. Still don't know what it means.
"Cadence" is just another way of saying schedule or frequency.

For example, just a couple of weeks ago I got the ok to change the "cadence" of some triage meetings from 4 days a week to 2 days a week.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:31 pm
by degenerasian
DaveInSeattle wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:20 pm
degenerasian wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:32 am A project manager used "project cadance" the other day. Still don't know what it means.
"Cadence" is just another way of saying schedule or frequency.

For example, just a couple of weeks ago I got the ok to change the "cadence" of some triage meetings from 4 days a week to 2 days a week.
That's not how she used it. Cadence is a measurement of iterations that could lead to future actions.

Which means nothing to me.

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:09 pm
by Johnnie
DaveInSeattle wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:20 pm
degenerasian wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:32 am A project manager used "project cadance" the other day. Still don't know what it means.
"Cadence" is just another way of saying schedule or frequency.

For example, just a couple of weeks ago I got the ok to change the "cadence" of some triage meetings from 4 days a week to 2 days a week.
Military commanders use "battle rhythm."

Re: CUBE LIFE! Office Etiquette

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:55 pm
by Nonlinear FC
degenerasian wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:31 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:20 pm
degenerasian wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:32 am A project manager used "project cadance" the other day. Still don't know what it means.
"Cadence" is just another way of saying schedule or frequency.

For example, just a couple of weeks ago I got the ok to change the "cadence" of some triage meetings from 4 days a week to 2 days a week.
That's not how she used it. Cadence is a measurement of iterations that could lead to future actions.

Which means nothing to me.
That's a very weird, outlier way to use cadence. It's typically just saying how often do you want to meet or send out regular communications and the like.