This Is The Thread Discussing The Missing Plane

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:59 pm

tennbengal wrote:Malaysia Airlines apparently offering $5K per passenger. Maybe they can kick in an FTD bouquet while they are at it...

Sounds like it's just the immediate compensation. $5k per next of kin per passenger, to help offset immediate financial impacts (missed work, etc). Pretty sure the international agreement on airline accidents, set in Montreal, mandates they give $175,000 per passenger. Perhaps that isn't done though until investigation is complete.

Post by **brian** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:36 pm

degenerasian wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Malaysia Airlines apparently offering $5K per passenger. Maybe they can kick in an FTD bouquet while they are at it...
Sounds like it's just the immediate compensation. $5k per next of kin per passenger, to help offset immediate financial impacts (missed work, etc). Pretty sure the international agreement on airline accidents, set in Montreal, mandates they give $175,000 per passenger. Perhaps that isn't done though until investigation is complete.

Yeah, the story I read clearly stated that was immediate compensation to cover things like degen mentioned.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:18 pm

The Sybian wrote:Maybe this should go in the irony thread, but BillO's hypocrisy is off the charts.

They just make bigger charts.

Shirley wrote:His ego is really off the charts. Stunning, actually.

Supersize.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:59 pm

So, just catching up...all that satellite footage of objects, and none from the plane?

I guess G-d stealing the plane is back on the table...

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:30 pm

Friend at work had the best theory:

The plane was randomly selected as part of a reality show. The plane was taken to an undisclosed location where everyone will live Survivor style for a month and then magically wander back into humanity. This entire "missing plane" was an elaborate way to drum up buzz when it premiers this summer.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:43 pm

I know I am beating a dead horse here, but I saw a bit of CNN with the sound off at the gym. I tried to avoid the closed captioning, but can't stop sometimes. The headline was something to the effect of, "Internet websites theorize that plane landed in [insert small island whose name I can't recall]." 30 minutes of discussion followed. Repulsive. They are dedicating large chunks of coverage to tin hat websites in a non-ironic way. WTF?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:37 pm

Has anyone mentioned Diego Garcia during this madness?

Because if they did they are fucking morons.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:50 pm

Johnnie wrote:Has anyone mentioned Diego Garcia during this madness?

Because if they did they are fucking morons.

Yes! That is the island (actually atoll) I couldn't think of. US naval base must not have radar, or it is a US military plot! Why is it so hard to believe that the plane crashed somewhere within an extremely large area in the ocean and the logistics of covering that entire area is impossible, especially since whether issues kept delaying the search? According to internet website, the Pacific is as much as 2 miles deep in some parts of the search zone. Even with advanced technology, we can't see everything.

Post by **brian** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:59 am

Basically not a good year for Malaysian Airlines.

Sounds like this plane is going to turn up at least.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:02 am

Yeah, note to self: No malaysian airlines flights. Ever.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:05 am

An adviser to Ukraine's interior minister said the Malaysian plane been shot down.

!

yikes

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:04 pm

Malaise-ian.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:16 pm

Isn't it a bit surprising that a major international airline would route planes over Ukraine? Perhaps they make a few low passes over Syria and Gaza too.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:32 pm

Might want to brush up on those old nuclear emergency drills.

howard · Post by **howard** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:33 pm

it is not as if the civil war in Ukraine is being fought over a wide area. currently a very small battle zone. this stinks of false flag.

I'd been meaning to post a few thoughts on this war. I will later but a teaser--this is how major wars start (as almost occurred when the USSR shot down a Korean Air Lines flight back inthe 80s and we didn't learn how close to war we came for more than a decade)

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:36 pm

The USA took one of their black ops planes, filled it with bodies (sourced from their offshore detention and interrogation centers) and blew it up with a Russian missile. A little internet hacking turned this into a Malaysian Airlines plane. That's diplomacy, modern style.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:07 pm

The pics that showed up on my various twitter feeds of portions of the raw wreckage that included a lot of dead bodies was kinda twitter at its worst.

Post by **Sabo** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:10 pm

tennbengal wrote:The pics that showed up on my various twitter feeds of portions of the raw wreckage that included a lot of dead bodies was kinda twitter at its worst.

Just saw this on my timeline:

@NoahSneider wrote:At crash site of #MH17. Bodies everywhere, organs splayed out. Too gruesome to post photographs. This is an absolute disaster. #ukraine

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:18 pm

80 of the 295 apparently were children.

23 Americans too.

And, yes, the raw crash pics are best avoided. Unless fuckfaces on your twitter feed just put that out there. Like, say the lead meterologist at Channel 2 locally in Baltimore. I mean, really. wtf, dude.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:27 pm

Sounds like no twitter for me the rest of the day.

tennbengal wrote:And, yes, the raw crash pics are best avoided. Unless fuckfaces on your twitter feed just put that out there. Like, say the lead meterologist at Channel 2 locally in Baltimore. I mean, really. wtf, dude.

See if you can goad him into making a "raining men" joke and get him fired?

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:31 pm

rass wrote:Sounds like no twitter for me the rest of the day.

tennbengal wrote:And, yes, the raw crash pics are best avoided. Unless fuckfaces on your twitter feed just put that out there. Like, say the lead meterologist at Channel 2 locally in Baltimore. I mean, really. wtf, dude.
See if you can goad him into making a "raining men" joke and get him fired?

FWIW I haven't seen any and I've been actively looking to see if they'll pop up.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:23 pm

Shot down at 33,000 ft? That takes a serious missile.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:06 am

Normally, I'd think that a prank call in this situation would be morally reprehensible - but this guy does it right.

Not only that, this talking head asks follow up question. Unreal.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:19 pm

tennbengal wrote:23 Americans too.

I guess this turned out to be wrong. So nothing to worry about!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:14 pm

Indeed. Just one then? We win!

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:50 am

Check out @maxseddon.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:47 am

tennbengal wrote:Indeed. Just one then? We win!

Allah bless reporting 23 Americans dead and then reporting one like the 23 number never happened.

If you want to see some crazy pictures, click here.

SPOILER WARNING: The dude in his seat is just absolutely fascinating to me. It's proof that the missile didn't get the plane entirely and a portion of it was still intact and people and things started spilling out.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:58 am

That's the entire point of seatbelts in airplanes in the first place: to keep the bodies from being astrewn all over the place in the event of an accident.

However, this wasn't your typical accident and it still worked in that case.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:45 am

Johnnie wrote:That's the entire point of seatbelts in airplanes in the first place: to keep the bodies from being astrewn all over the place in the event of an accident.

However, this wasn't your typical accident and it still worked in that case.

Right... But I'm saying that it's not like the plane got entirely blown to smithereens and everything was torn apart while it happened. For that to look like, well, that, means there likely was a significant part of it still fairly intact.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:58 pm

rass wrote:Check out @maxseddon.

Article

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:27 am

Apparently now the bodies have been put into a truck and driven 'somewhere'.

The Netherlands are royally pissed. I heard that the Dutch PM called Putin and yelled at him.
But the Netherlands is such a small country what can they do? Could NATO get involved? Could a war start over this?

Post by **Sabo** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:29 am

degenerasian wrote:Apparently now the bodies have been put into a truck and driven 'somewhere'.

The Netherlands are royally pissed. I heard that the Dutch PM called Putin and yelled at him.
But the Netherlands is such a small country what can they do? Could NATO get involved? Could a war start over this?

Considering how the US and Soviets almost went to war over the downing of that Korean Air flight back in the 80s, I'm going to go with "yes" on your last question.

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:30 am

degenerasian wrote:Apparently now the bodies have been put into a truck and driven 'somewhere'.

Apparently that applies to just some of them, and to the flight recorders. Most of the bodies that have been recovered are sitting in "refrigerated" train cars waiting for someone to decide where they can/should go, and when they can be sent wherever that ends up being.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:37 am

rass wrote:
degenerasian wrote:Apparently now the bodies have been put into a truck and driven 'somewhere'.
Apparently that applies to just some of them, and to the flight recorders. Most of the bodies that have been recovered are sitting in "refrigerated" train cars waiting for someone to decide where they can/should go, and when they can be sent wherever that ends up being.

The Dutch want those bodies back Toot Sweet. We'll see if those demands are met.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:24 pm

I had no idea Putin was Austin Powers' father.

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:23 pm

It's been almost a year since Flight MH370 disappeared. I was obsessed with this story last year. When it happened, I was going thru a difficult time, and this allowed me to fixate on something other than myself for a few weeks. I would wake up every morning and read transcripts of the press conferences, then check to see if any of the amateur investigators on Reddit had solved the case yet. (Spoiler: they hadn't.) Everything about this still seems so strange to me.

So I'm reading anniversary articles now. The great Sean Flynn just published this in GQ. I'm going to savor it over the course of the afternoon.

Jeff Wise published this last week. I was looking forward to it, but he kind of lost me by the time he got to 'Putin did it.' I'll still probably read his book, tho, because I can't get enough of this stuff.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:25 pm

bapo! wrote:…he kind of lost me by the time he got to 'Putin did it.'

Cuz Putin hates Malaysia!

Bapo, what do you think happened?

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:37 pm

howard wrote:
bapo! wrote:…he kind of lost me by the time he got to 'Putin did it.'
Cuz Putin hates Malaysia!

Bapo, what do you think happened?

Hell if I know. The simplest answer is probably the best: A cabin-pressure issue that knocked everybody out, then auto-pilot until crashing into the Indian Ocean. Not as sexy of a theory as a landing strip in Kazakhstan, but I can't buy into the mustache-twirling stuff.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:50 pm

Starts at 1:40 or so.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:58 am

So that crash in the French Alps took a turn for the horrifying/awesome, depending on whether you're a regular human being or a cable news producer.