The OFFICIAL The National Thread

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 17, 2023 1:34 pm

Homecoming lineup announced today. Kinda glad it isn't better since I don't think I can make it.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 17, 2023 3:41 pm

I really don't like "The Alcott". Not as some backlash against having Taylor Swift, but it just doesn't fit the album or their style in general. Her lyrics are strange (the word "give me some tips" versus "give me advice" or something) and I hate the "falling in love with you again" resolution at the end. The National doesn't have resolution, its always individual islands, either being neglectful or neglected. On top of that ... the album is very much directly about Carin and Matt, so having her come in with a 20 year age difference is just creepy and out of place. It should be on a movie soundtrack, not a proper album, even if I get why they did.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 18, 2023 11:07 pm

Oh shit, “Murder Me Rachel” tonight.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:46 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:54 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:48 pm The Bearsville concert that's up for free on Bandcamp right now (for like another hour) is pretty great.
They have to release this somewhere in the future. Shot in black and white, fantastic sound, small venue, great setlist. All the songs from the new album in order except they skipped Alcott, then Cap, Ohio, System, Light years, Graceless, Empire, Terrible, About, Vanderlyle.

It's on YouTube now, and it remains fantastic.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:49 pm

I think I'm ready to pick a favorite song of TFTPOF. Congrats, Tropic Morning News!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:10 pm

Absolutely agree. “Grease in Your Hair” is the only one that I’d even consider on that level so far.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:49 am

https://pca.st/episode/dace6fb5-166c-47 ... c33cf9867f

Matt is Brian Koppelman's guest on the most recent The Moment episode.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:52 am

Posting in the correct thread…

I’ve never gone through their discography from start to finish, so decided I’d do that since I’m seeing them next month in Denver. Really enjoying Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:54 am

Giff wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:52 am Posting in the correct thread…

I’ve never gone through their discography from start to finish, so decided I’d do that since I’m seeing them next month in Denver. Really enjoying Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers.

That either bodes really well or really poorly. Which, to be fair, is kind of how fandom of this band works.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:17 pm

Yeah. If it’s not ground-level “this could be good”, you’re really going to hate the turn by Boxer.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:14 am

I know I already like Boxer and the releases after that, so I think I'll be good.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:00 pm

I’m here and am so excited.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:13 pm

Yeeeaaahhh.

Get in for The Beths?

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:15 pm

Yessir they were phenomenal.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:02 am

Pre-encore and holy shit you guys.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:52 am

My man! Wednesday night for me. Kinda dreading that it's outdoors. Not gonna lie.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:34 am

It’ll be amazing!

mister d, did I get the best one of the two?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:16 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:34 am It’ll be amazing!

mister d, did I get the best one of the two?

I think the 12th was slightly better. Rylan and Abel put it just over the top for me. The last five before the encore your night were fire though.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:49 pm

Glad you had a good time man and you’ll be fine cheds. And mister d is doing MSG this week, right? Timing on that one sucked for me.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:37 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:16 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:34 am It’ll be amazing!

mister d, did I get the best one of the two?
I think the 12th was slightly better. Rylan and Abel put it just over the top for me. The last five before the encore your night were fire though.

So fire.

Y’all come down for the Houston show in November.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:04 pm

Hopefully chedda doesn’t take the bait on that because…

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:31 pm

I’ve already got chedda on a very special guest list for his visit to Texas next month….

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:40 pm

Is this the Help a Swamper Out thread in disguise?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:53 am

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:16 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:34 am It’ll be amazing!

mister d, did I get the best one of the two?
I think the 12th was slightly better. Rylan and Abel put it just over the top for me. The last five before the encore your night were fire though.

It does look a lot like the night 1/2 splits in Philadelphia although I feel like that was even more skewed towards the 2nd night.

Unique Denver N1: About Today, Cherry Tree, Conversation 16, Day I Die, Deep End, Demons, Humiliation, Light Years, Murder Me Rachael, New Order T-Shirt, Pink Rabbits, Smoke Detector, The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness, Wasp Nest, Weird Goodbyes

Unique Denver N2: Abel, Afraid of Everyone, Apartment Story, Carin at the Liquor Store, Don't Swallow the Cap, Guilty Party, I Need My Girl, Runaway, Rylan, Send for Me, Space Invader (Threaded Gold), Squalor Victoria, This Is the Last Time, This Isn't Helping, Vanderlyle Crybaby Geeks

15 non-repeats each night and my quick first take is 9 the 2nd night and 6 the first if I were making a best 15, although a top 6 would be even more skewed. Either way these shows have been great and the real lesson is don't just go one night when there are two.

Have no idea what to expect out of MSG, whether it'll be all hits or a superfan event.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:00 am

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:53 am
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:16 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:34 am It’ll be amazing!

mister d, did I get the best one of the two?
I think the 12th was slightly better. Rylan and Abel put it just over the top for me. The last five before the encore your night were fire though.
It does look a lot like the night 1/2 splits in Philadelphia although I feel like that was even more skewed towards the 2nd night.

Unique Denver N1: About Today, Cherry Tree, Conversation 16, Day I Die, Deep End, Demons, Humiliation, Light Years, Murder Me Rachael, New Order T-Shirt, Pink Rabbits, Smoke Detector, The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness, Wasp Nest, Weird Goodbyes

Unique Denver N2: Abel, Afraid of Everyone, Apartment Story, Carin at the Liquor Store, Don't Swallow the Cap, Guilty Party, I Need My Girl, Runaway, Rylan, Send for Me, Space Invader (Threaded Gold), Squalor Victoria, This Is the Last Time, This Isn't Helping, Vanderlyle Crybaby Geeks

15 non-repeats each night and my quick first take is 9 the 2nd night and 6 the first if I were making a best 15, although a top 6 would be even more skewed. Either way these shows have been great and the real lesson is don't just go one night when there are two.

Have no idea what to expect out of MSG, whether it'll be all hits or a superfan event.

If I'm picking 15 songs from these two lists for Wednesday's show, I'm picking these.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:07 am

Not surprisingly almost the same.

Out: Light Years, I Need My Girl, Runaway
In: Conversation 16, Murder Me Rachael, Squalor Victoria

Demons at Night 1 in Philadelphia had me concerned we were in for a Drunk Matt show, which is fine sometimes but maybe not with an 11 year old. His timing was just awful, kept jumping the starts and seemed to just struggle through it.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:41 am

Of the songs not played at either Denver show, I'd add Mistaken for Strangers as a must for my ideal setlist.

I get that Lemonworld, All the Wine, and I'll Still Destroy You may not necessarily the best live songs, but I wouldn't mind hearing them either.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:22 am

Wheels up for Hartsfield Jackson.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:22 am

Safe travels!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:33 am

Anyone else see the rumors of a second new album "Laugh Track"?

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:29 am

Not seen, but heard mention of a possible announcement of new music on the radio a little while ago.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:37 pm

There also seems to be escalating speculation about T-Swift making an appearance at MSG. I've gone from 1% concern to ~10%, where the concern has nothing to do with her coming out (might be kinda fun), but of her fans accounting for all late transactions and fucking up the vibe just hoping to catch one song.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:40 pm

It was fun last week to tease my oldest (who has become so annoying lately with her swiftiness) that I was going to see T-Swift's favorite band.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:47 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:37 pm There also seems to be escalating speculation about T-Swift making an appearance at MSG. I've gone from 1% concern to ~10%, where the concern has nothing to do with her coming out (might be kinda fun), but of her fans accounting for all late transactions and fucking up the vibe just hoping to catch one song.

God forbid your favorite band sells more tickets!

Of course, I know you're a music snob, so your take makes sense. For you.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:36 pm

Excellent reading comp.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:46 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:36 pm Excellent reading comp.

Fucking up the vibe is a good thing now?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:26 pm

No, that part being a negative you got right.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:23 pm

At dinner before the show. Know what's on the radio?

Baker Street, motherfucker.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:01 pm

This part of Atlanta is noooooice

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:57 pm

Five rows back on the Bryce, Ben, and Kyle side.