The Swamp

more bullshit exposed.

Media’s Baltimore ‘Teen Purge’ Narrative is Falling Apart
Turns out the teen social media “purge” may have been more a police and media creation than an actual threat.

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The alleged source of the police version that Gray broke his own neck

Other Prisoner in Van with Freddie Gray Denies Police Account

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The man who filmed the Freddie Gray video has been arrested at gunpoint

BCPD has been in f-u mode for quite a while now. Like decades. Of course, they will turn it up in response to the indictments, probably in very stupid and destructive ways, based on past performance.

Good essay, sums up my answer to 'why this happened', and in a style I quite like. Waldman is one of the non-economists who regularly comments on economics and other topics, whom I regularly read because he is smart.

There is a name for this

howard wrote:more bullshit exposed.

Media’s Baltimore ‘Teen Purge’ Narrative is Falling Apart
Turns out the teen social media “purge” may have been more a police and media creation than an actual threat.



BCPD has been in f-u mode for quite a while now. Like decades. Of course, they will turn it up in response to the indictments, probably in very stupid and destructive ways, based on past performance.

I'm just going to reiterate how fucking shady that stuff on Monday is looking in retrospect. I originally thought they BCPD was too obtuse to orchestrate the Mondawmin Mall stuff, but it really is starting to feel like a set up to me. I'm not a conspiracy inclined person, but when you put things together...

* Letting kids get to public transportation, even if it was done with police "escorts" would've allowed the vast majority of kids to leave the area.

* Why can't anyone produce a copy of this flier or the reported swell of social media activity that BCPD claims sparked their riot gear heavy response? I'm not saying it's not out there, but I really hope some intrepid reporter does more follow up on this.

* Finally, let's play the "take their word for it" game. You are BCPD and you are seeing a call to Purge on social media (which one/s by the way??) Balt Sun is hearing about this HOURS before the 3pm dismissal time. Why in the ever loving fuck don't you contact the Mayor and Superintendent and try to coordinate something to mitigate potential danger?? I really really don't understand that part of this. They weren't responding to this on the fly, they were AGAIN telling the media about hours before the fact.

There's something very fucked up about this aspect of Monday.

I don't care how much you hate black thugs, the percentage of people dead-set on the side of the police in these types of things (especially of the revolt against the government segment) is baffling to me. They truly don't care if the police do fucked up shit to these people because I guess another thug off the streets.

And it's cops verse hood-people; I can't tell you how many times I've seen defenses that the cops are black. Who cares?

Gunpowder wrote:I don't care how much you hate black thugs, the percentage of people dead-set on the side of the police in these types of things (especially of the revolt against the government segment) is baffling to me. They truly don't care if the police do fucked up shit to these people because I guess another thug off the streets.

And, of course, these people all hate "big government."

Gunpowder wrote:I don't care how much you hate black thugs, the percentage of people dead-set on the side of the police in these types of things (especially of the revolt against the government segment) is baffling to me. They truly don't care if the police do fucked up shit to these people because I guess another thug off the streets.

This. People never see the other side. They just sit on top of the mountain and shout down. That is until their teenage son becomes a thug and gets fucked up by the police. They think that can never happen but we all know that when you're 16 years old, it's a very fine line between thug and scholar.

This is no longer important U.S. news now that the figurehead royal family of another country had a baby.

Nonlinear FC wrote:

howard wrote:more bullshit exposed.

Media’s Baltimore ‘Teen Purge’ Narrative is Falling Apart
Turns out the teen social media “purge” may have been more a police and media creation than an actual threat.



BCPD has been in f-u mode for quite a while now. Like decades. Of course, they will turn it up in response to the indictments, probably in very stupid and destructive ways, based on past performance.

I'm just going to reiterate how fucking shady that stuff on Monday is looking in retrospect. I originally thought they BCPD was too obtuse to orchestrate the Mondawmin Mall stuff, but it really is starting to feel like a set up to me. I'm not a conspiracy inclined person, but when you put things together...

Check out this podcast. http://canadalandshow.com/podcast/short-cuts-baltimore

Breaks down how the cops couldn't have set up the trouble at the mall any better.

Curfew is over. Back to normal hopefully, tomorrow.

Gunpowder wrote:And it's cops verse hood-people; I can't tell you how many times I've seen defenses that the cops are black. Who cares?

The David Simon interview delves into this. His opinion (because that's really what it boils down to) is that the black cops were worse than the white guys, because no one was going to be able to claim racism when they beat the shit out of a guy on the corner.

Well, here's something interesting as a byproduct of body cameras on police officers. An undercover cop gets shot by his own lieutenant. My favorite part is when the voiceover says "He looks NOTHING like the suspects." Also, the raw footage is on YouTube as well. The cop that does the shooting says "Oh my God are you ok?!?" Dude disgustedly says "No."

Oh, gotta love how he gets to retire with full benefits too.

I'm sure you guys have seen the footage in Louisiana and Minnesota. It's sickening.

Rosenberg hits the nail on the head:

Yeah, the irony is a lot of these cops (the bad, shitty ones) are the same ones to expect all Muslims to denounce every terrorist attack or generally expect that the behavior of a small minority somehow represents the majority when that's no more less true for them than anyone else.

Seeing the FOP or some kind of police organization call out corrupt or violence cops as shitbags would be a great, welcome start.

Well ... that's because they expect that the majority of muslims recognize the act as worthy of condemnation. I don't know that a large sample of cops see this as wrong so much as an event ranging somewhere from unfortunate-but-unavoidable-collateral-damage to an open "who gives a shit, I'd rather 100 citizens shot by cops than one cop shot by a citizen". The dissenting sample keeps their mouth shut to avoid the wrath.

My feed is blowing up with shit going down in Dallas. Doesn't look good.

Johnnie wrote:My feed is blowing up with shit going down in Dallas. Doesn't look good.

3 cops dead has sports reporters in an uproar.

The CNN story says that two snipers fired at 10 cops from elevated positions.

Uh, holy fuck. These guys gotta be vets, right? That's my initial reaction.

Current person of interest:



That's an AR-15, not a "sniper rifle." Clearly customized. Now I need to know how far away this guy was (if it's him) to hit multiple cops. It has the range, but still, you have to be a good shot to hit from distance.

Oh, the NRA, in a perfect world, would have some shit on its hands.

Twitter tonight is an incredible shitshow. There is incredible hatred in this country.

Reportedly cops arrested two suspects who turned out to be innocent; at least they managed not to kill them.

Oh my fuck:

This happened about six blocks from Dealey Plaza.

howard wrote:Twitter tonight is an incredible shitshow. There is incredible hatred in this country.

Yes, yes it is.

News media doing its usual bang-up job. Worse than usual, judging only by their self-contradictions and completely ridiculous speculation, since facts are so limited and the overall situation so confused at this time.

By the way, in case anyone doesn't know, the Joe Walsh tweet above was made by a former U.S. congressman. (Not an aging rock star.)

howard wrote:Twitter tonight is an incredible shitshow. There is incredible hatred in this country.

Sadly, this is one of the things that social media has brought to the fore.

Going back 24 hours, I am considering the videos of policemen executing two black men in separate incidents. Watching those events is enough to make someone want to go out and kill cops. In the context of all the other incidents of policemen killing unarmed people for no good reason, and almost always getting away with it. And the larger context of America.

Surprised only that attacks killing policemen such as last night haven't occurred more often. Then again, two policemen in Brooklyn were murdered about a year ago, with a similar stated motive.

Cue WB Yeats. And Hosea 8:7. For they have sown the wind; and they shall reap the whirlwind.

And, the news media just fucking fails in every way. Also getting used to this.

Fine advice:

tennbengal wrote:Pro tip:

Stay the fuck off facebook today.

However, the comments section of the Wall Street Journal is horrific, as well. I'll just stick with the swamp today.

ETA: I have seen one person talking sense on the TV. Al fucking Sharpton. Yet another sign, of something. (Chuck Todd sounded pretty reasonable too, but a sea of inanity otherwise.)

Today is a terrible day to be at work. I wish I could take off.

Not for nothing (translate: yes for something) but I bet if the media finds footage of the suspects from their "terrorist training camp" days, they won't air it too much.

howard wrote: I'll just stick with the swamp today.

This is stellar advice that I will probably adhere to for about 13 minutes.

howard wrote:Fine advice:

tennbengal wrote:Pro tip:

Stay the fuck off facebook today.

However, the comments section of the Wall Street Journal is horrific, as well. I'll just stick with the swamp today.

ETA: I have seen one person talking sense on the TV. Al fucking Sharpton. Yet another sign, of something. (Chuck Todd sounded pretty reasonable too, but a sea of inanity otherwise.)

Wall St Journal is just Free Republic with more Ayn Rand and less Jesus

Giff wrote:

howard wrote: I'll just stick with the swamp today.

This is stellar advice that I will probably adhere to for about 13 minutes.

The swamp + the echo chamber I've created for myself on twitter.

Not making a comment about its use, or about the horror show last night....but have to ask: Local Cops have bombs now?

DaveInSeattle wrote:Not making a comment about its use, or about the horror show last night....but have to ask: Local Cops have bombs now?

Now?

Police have weapons of war roaming the streets, why wouldn't they? EOD technicians need post military employment too.

I knew that "suspect" being lumped into this madness as a "sniper" was bullshit.



It's a good faith gesture to comply while the fog of war is going on, but still. He had to give up his firearm because he's black.

DaveInSeattle wrote:Not making a comment about its use, or about the horror show last night....but have to ask: Local Cops have bombs now?

Tytpically they are used for bomb squads, I believe for remote detonation of suspicious/confirmed explosives.