2014 NFL Week 1

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:06 pm

I think it's time for the thread.

Michael Sam ends up with the Cowboys, which is a really good landing spot for him, IMO. They won't care about any potential media circus and they're a team that lacks depth at that position as well.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:16 pm

Can we just agree that we all thought of the same 2 pop culture-y hack jokes here and nobody's going to actually bring them up?

But if you didn't, and want to guess..!

Post by **brian** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:35 pm

The Cowboys defense is beyond dreadful, I'd be shocked if he isn't on the active roster by their bye.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:37 pm

Ryan wrote:Can we just agree that we all thought of the same 2 pop culture-y hack jokes here and nobody's going to actually bring them up?

But if you didn't, and want to guess..!

I didn't, but I'm guessing Sam just needs to find a policeman, construction worker, sailor and Native American to pal around with?

Post by **Shirley** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:39 pm

I hope they are stocking up on pudding at that practice facility!

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:02 pm

Ryan wrote:Can we just agree that we all thought of the same 2 pop culture-y hack jokes here and nobody's going to actually bring them up?

But if you didn't, and want to guess..!

One of them took me awhile. A rhyme off the QB's name?

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:08 pm

He doesn't use his penis for breedin'?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:09 pm

Shirley wrote:I hope they are stocking up on pudding at that practice facility!

"I wish I knew how to quit you!"
"Give us the playbook and leave."
"Oh, ok, that'll do it."

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:10 pm

The Sybian wrote:I didn't, but I'm guessing Sam just needs to find a policeman, construction worker, sailor and Native American to pal around with?

And yes. Glad we avoided these.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:40 pm

AB, for once, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:34 pm

rass wrote:
Ryan wrote:Can we just agree that we all thought of the same 2 pop culture-y hack jokes here and nobody's going to actually bring them up?

But if you didn't, and want to guess..!
One of them took me awhile. A rhyme off the QB's name?

The defense sucks already?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:59 pm

Pruitt wrote:
rass wrote:
Ryan wrote:Can we just agree that we all thought of the same 2 pop culture-y hack jokes here and nobody's going to actually bring them up?

But if you didn't, and want to guess..!
One of them took me awhile. A rhyme off the QB's name?
The defense sucks already?

Can't wait for his embarrassing photos with Jerry Jones?

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:06 pm

So, who does he have to blow to make this team?

Post by **brian** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:31 pm

Cowboys are going to sell his practice jersey in their pro shop. A less cynical person might assume the Cowboys signed him for reasons other than his ability to help the team on the field. (Though seriously that defense is so bad, that he probably will end up on the roster before too long.)

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:34 pm

Jerloma wrote:AB, for once, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

I really wasn't.Cowboys are used to media circuses and like others have pointed out, that defense is pretty bad, so if you're gonna hook up wiith (ha!) a team, this is a pretty good fit.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:53 pm

AB_skin_test wrote:
Jerloma wrote:AB, for once, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
I really wasn't.Cowboys are used to media circuses and like others have pointed out, that defense is pretty bad, so if you're gonna hook up wiith (ha!) a team, this is a pretty good fit.

I think Jerry loves any attention. But especially from scantily clad coeds.

Post by **Shirley** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:23 pm

brian wrote:Cowboys are going to sell his practice jersey in their pro shop. A less cynical person might assume the Cowboys signed him for reasons other than his ability to help the team on the field. (Though seriously that defense is so bad, that he probably will end up on the roster before too long.)

I bet the dude sees the field this year for the Cowboys or somebody. You don't earn SEC player of the year by accident. I know he played preseason against bench guys and dudes driving trucks this week, but he dominated, just like you'd want him to. I think the guy can play (for what little that's worth).

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:37 pm

Shirley wrote:
brian wrote:Cowboys are going to sell his practice jersey in their pro shop. A less cynical person might assume the Cowboys signed him for reasons other than his ability to help the team on the field. (Though seriously that defense is so bad, that he probably will end up on the roster before too long.)
I bet the dude sees the field this year for the Cowboys or somebody. You don't earn SEC player of the year by accident. I know he played preseason against bench guys and dudes driving trucks this week, but he dominated, just like you'd want him to. I think the guy can play (for what little that's worth).

He's one of the best Missouri linemen of the past 10 years, a group that's included players drafted like Sheldon Richardson, Kony Ealy, Aldon Smith, Ziggy Hood, Stryker Sulak, Brian Smith, Atiyyah Ellison and CJ Mosley. Obviously college does not automatically translate to the pros, but if you're a football fan you probably only recognize Sheldon, Aldon and Kony. (Ziggy for the Steeler fans, (interested to see how he does in a different scheme in Jax)) And his stats stacked up favorably with those three players.

I don't think he'll be an all-pro, but he's going to play in the league.

Post by **brian** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:50 pm

College production means a lot less than you're implying. You can't compare Sam to those guys with such a broad brush. I'm not saying he's NOT going to be productive in the pros, but just because those guys were doesn't mean anything. The one thing he has in his favor is that his one major current skill set (attacking the QB) will always be in demand and his lack of speed isn't as much of an issue as it would be at other positions. If he is activated this year I'd be surprised to see him in anything other than 2nd and 3rd and long situations since he's going to be a liability in the run game in the short term.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:12 pm

Sam was one of the weakest SEC DPOY's in recent memory and he got like most of his sacks against Florida and a scrub school. He's the gay Bjoern Werner.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:19 pm

brian wrote:College production means a lot less than you're implying. You can't compare Sam to those guys with such a broad brush. I'm not saying he's NOT going to be productive in the pros, but just because those guys were doesn't mean anything. The one thing he has in his favor is that his one major current skill set (attacking the QB) will always be in demand and his lack of speed isn't as much of an issue as it would be at other positions. If he is activated this year I'd be surprised to see him in anything other than 2nd and 3rd and long situations since he's going to be a liability in the run game in the short term.

Or were you inferring? Because If we were comparing counting stats, Sam stacks up as good or better than all of them. And all of them were drafted ahead of Sam. There was no implication of production = better. Because I'm the first person to point out how Sam's sacks came in bunches last year.

But the reason I said what I did is because he can rush the passer -- the guys who have been relatively successful in the pros from MU have been able to do that. Not because Sam was an All-American and they weren't.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:22 pm

Gunpowder wrote:Sam was one of the weakest SEC DPOY's in recent memory and he got like most of his sacks against Florida and a scrub school. He's the gay Bjoern Werner.

Arkansas State, Vanderbilt, Florida, South Carolina, A&M and Oklahoma State.

And comparing a seventh-round pick to a first-rounder at this point in their careers is flattering.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:25 pm

Well, Bjoern Werner sucks balls. Figuratively.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:27 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
Gunpowder wrote:Sam was one of the weakest SEC DPOY's in recent memory and he got like most of his sacks against Florida and a scrub school. He's the gay Bjoern Werner.
Arkansas State, Vanderbilt, Florida, South Carolina, A&M and Oklahoma State.

And comparing a seventh-round pick to a first-rounder at this point in their careers is flattering.

I didn't realize that Vandy was actually good last year.

Anyway, 9 sacks in 3 games, 6 against two poor teams. Bjoern Werner did that and people thought he was good and he predictably sucks, and Sam may well be the same.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:45 pm

Gunpowder wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
Gunpowder wrote:Sam was one of the weakest SEC DPOY's in recent memory and he got like most of his sacks against Florida and a scrub school. He's the gay Bjoern Werner.
Arkansas State, Vanderbilt, Florida, South Carolina, A&M and Oklahoma State.

And comparing a seventh-round pick to a first-rounder at this point in their careers is flattering.

I didn't realize that Vandy was actually good last year.

Anyway, 9 sacks in 3 games, 6 against two poor teams. Bjoern Werner did that and people thought he was good and he predictably sucks, and Sam may well be the same.

So what are you arguing against with the comparison? Sam may very well stink. He may very well have a meh career (I think ultimately this is what happens), he could be out of the league in 18 months or could be an all-pro. But I don't think there are many people who are saying he was considerably under-drafted.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:47 pm

Sam's Sacks would be a pretty great fan section name.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:12 am

Buffalo sports radio is all Kyle Orton at the moment.

But then again, he is getting paid like a starter (and has a player option on next season. That's right, an option to come back for $5.5 million), and Manuel has impressed approximately 17 people with his development.

Oh, this could be another very long season. Life's great when you are both a Bills and a Browns fan - think this will be another season where they combine for 9-11 wins.

Season starts Sunday - I'd better go stock the bar.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:42 am

Pruitt wrote:Buffalo sports radio is all Kyle Orton at the moment.

But then again, he is getting paid like a starter (and has a player option on next season. That's right, an option to come back for $5.5 million), and Manuel has impressed approximately 17 people with his development.

Oh, this could be another very long season. Life's great when you are both a Bills and a Browns fan - think this will be another season where they combine for 9-11 wins.

Season starts Sunday - I'd better go stock the bar.

Hey, at least you'll have a top pick next year. Oh, wait.

Post by **brian** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:45 am

Giff wrote:
Pruitt wrote:Buffalo sports radio is all Kyle Orton at the moment.

But then again, he is getting paid like a starter (and has a player option on next season. That's right, an option to come back for $5.5 million), and Manuel has impressed approximately 17 people with his development.

Oh, this could be another very long season. Life's great when you are both a Bills and a Browns fan - think this will be another season where they combine for 9-11 wins.

Season starts Sunday - I'd better go stock the bar.
Hey, at least you'll have a top pick next year. Oh, wait.

Ouch.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:51 am

He'll still have it!

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:39 am

h/t

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:38 pm

AB_skin_test wrote:He'll still have it!

Hooray for me!!!

And this is the best few days of the year between the Thursday opener and kickoff sunday as the season is underway and the Bills and Browns are both in first!

Post by **brian** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:11 pm

Ndamukong Suh with Charles Barkley.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:58 pm

That's the cover of my 4th record, "1991 As Fuck"

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:19 pm

C'mon...Pharrell? I know that Soundgarden played earlier, but couldn't they have gone with 2 Seattle Bands?

At least its a completely fantastic day, weather-wise. Couldn't be better....

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:31 pm

Where's Macklemore???????

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:09 pm

Yup, digging this NFL game, went to a CFL game last Friday and it's not the same. Sure, Ochocinco was there but he ain't the same player.

Go Vikings!

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:22 pm

I hate watching Percy Harvin on another team but I like watching him beat the Packers.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:26 am

I love watching Russell Wilson play. The guy just never seems to make that "big mistake". Just a solid player.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:23 am

He is. I also note that what goes along with that is only two teams threw the ball fewer times last year than Seattle did. And it continued last night to be a game where he could rely heavily on a strong run game. Not faulting him for that, just noting that he has some distinct advantages in that offense - which he does run very well.