The Swamp

Kudos, Uncle Terry and Aunt Kim.

Congrats, Buff, and to all Bills fans. I know what a relief that is.

Buffalo sports radio is wild today.

It's a crazy love-in with callers choking up as they recall seeing games with their now deceased fathers/grandfathers/uncles. Terry Pegula could walk down Chippewa street in an ISIS uniform dragging a wagon full of dead kittens and Buffalonians would still give him their first born.

But as a Bills fan, the news makes me happy. Even though I live no more than 3 miles from where they were planning to build the new stadium here in Toronto, I don't want the Bills here. (Partially because I don't want to fork over tax dollars to build the stadium, but also because the people of Western New York bleed for that team).

My advice - take the Bills and give the points this week. That stadium is going to be rocking on Sunday.

Glad for Buffalo fans. And hope they get a new stadium soon. The Ralph is a shithole.

brian wrote:Glad for Buffalo fans. And hope they get a new stadium soon. The Ralph is a shithole.

Supposedly, they already have a site chosen in Niagara Falls New York which, if you've never driven around Western New York is such a pit that it makes Buffalo look like Vancouver.

I am so old that I remember - after years of going to games at Municipal Stadium in Cleveland - going to Rich Stadium (as the Ralph used to be known) and being impressed by it.

But man, it is a dump. Curious to see what the $120 million dollars in renos have done to the place, but I imagine that the "game experience" will still be the same.

Pruitt wrote:Terry Pegula could walk down Chippewa street in an ISIS uniform dragging a wagon full of dead kittens and Buffalonians would still give him their first born ...

"... do irreversible harm to their ecosystem in the name of personal profit ..." would have worked there too.

Pruitt wrote:

brian wrote:Glad for Buffalo fans. And hope they get a new stadium soon. The Ralph is a shithole.

Supposedly, they already have a site chosen in Niagara Falls New York which, if you've never driven around Western New York is such a pit that it makes Buffalo look like Vancouver.

I am so old that I remember - after years of going to games at Municipal Stadium in Cleveland - going to Rich Stadium (as the Ralph used to be known) and being impressed by it.

But man, it is a dump. Curious to see what the $120 million dollars in renos have done to the place, but I imagine that the "game experience" will still be the same.

I've been to Niagara Falls many times (both sides). That's a curious place, it's kinda out of the way and hard to get to for most of the fans I'm assuming, no? I haven't been to Buffalo proper in awhile, but there isn't a downtown site available? I didn't seem to really think that it would have been that hard to put a parcel of land together there.

brian wrote: I've been to Niagara Falls many times (both sides). That's a curious place, it's kinda out of the way and hard to get to for most of the fans I'm assuming, no? I haven't been to Buffalo proper in awhile, but there isn't a downtown site available? I didn't seem to really think that it would have been that hard to put a parcel of land together there.

I haven't been back in Buffalo in 10 years, but downtown was sliding into a vacant wasteland.

The Sybian wrote:

brian wrote: I've been to Niagara Falls many times (both sides). That's a curious place, it's kinda out of the way and hard to get to for most of the fans I'm assuming, no? I haven't been to Buffalo proper in awhile, but there isn't a downtown site available? I didn't seem to really think that it would have been that hard to put a parcel of land together there.

I haven't been back in Buffalo in 10 years, but downtown was sliding into a vacant wasteland.

That's been happening seemingly since forever, but I think the worst part has passed. Mind you one of the rarest sights is a construction crane ANYWHERE near Buffalo.

And I just read further... Niagara Falls is apparently out of the running.

brian wrote: I've been to Niagara Falls many times (both sides). That's a curious place, it's kinda out of the way and hard to get to for most of the fans I'm assuming, no? I haven't been to Buffalo proper in awhile, but there isn't a downtown site available? I didn't seem to really think that it would have been that hard to put a parcel of land together there.

No, it's not exactly San Francisco. Property prices are quite manageable.

Niagara Falls? For real? Not only does it suck, it's so damn hard to get to without an NFL football game going on there.

EDIT: NM, Brian already mentioned logistics

EDIT2: Out of the running

Iiiiite, carry on

If only Albany were closer, huh?

mister d wrote:If only Albany were closer, huh?

Yeah, I remember thinking how much they needed an NFL team.

Is there any room around First Niagara?

Lots.

If there's going to be a new stadium, it'll be in Buffalo or in the burbs. NF isn't an option now.

My money's on near FNC, the new HarborCenter, the tallest building in the city and the giant Marriott. All owned by who, you ask?

Pegula.

Gunpowder wrote:

mister d wrote:If only Albany were closer, huh?

Yeah, I remember thinking how much they needed an NFL team.

Albany Firebirds arena league games use to be pretty awesome, thanks to Touchdown Eddie Brown (Antonio Brown's father), who was voted the best AFL player ever.

BuffloSoldier wrote:Lots.

If there's going to be a new stadium, it'll be in Buffalo or in the burbs. NF isn't an option now.

My money's on near FNC, the new HarborCenter, the tallest building in the city and the giant Marriott. All owned by who, you ask?

Pegula.

It's Pegulaville!