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Re: Deadspin

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:38 pm
by BSF21
tennbengal wrote:This is pretty damn fine work from Magary:

https://deadspin.com/the-reckoning-alwa ... socialflow


Strong work. I really enjoyed that.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:12 pm
by Shirley
I'll admit to reading through pretty much all of Tucker Max's site and laughing at a lot of it. I also got a lot of laughs out of the awfully mean "Fat Chicks in Party Hats."

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:01 pm
by Johnnie
I read all of his books and saw the movie based off one of them. (It was a shit movie that was filmed in Shreveport.)

When I was younger it was funny. Looking back now that I'm older, I'm more impressed he got a law degree from Duke while actually living and partying in Cancun which, according to him, triggered the mandatory attendance rules.

The rest of his charlatanism was overblown silliness. I also took part in crazy things when I was younger (Guam stuff) and I realized he was smart enough to exploit a market that hadn't been tapped yet for money purposes. (Writing blogs)

Also, he looks like Max Kellerman a little bit. That threw me off when I first saw Max Kellerman on tv.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:04 pm
by sancarlos
Yeah. Crackerjack stuff.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:25 pm
by A_B

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:41 pm
by rass
Yeah. Crackerjack stuff.

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Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:48 pm
by Steve of phpBB


That was cool. I have to say, one thing I liked about Dodger Stadium was the diversity in the crowd.

Is baseball still that popular in Mexico? I don't know how to check this out, but it seems like there have been very few prominent Mexican ballplayers since Fernando, especially compared to other Latin American countries.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:57 pm
by tennbengal


Yup. Thanks for the heads up.

I second Steve - the crowd a few weeks back at the NLDS game was easily the most diverse sports crowd I have even been among.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:02 pm
by govmentchedda
How soon we forget Jorge Cantu.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:47 pm
by tennbengal
The Diane Moskowitz bat signal is up:

https://deadspin.com/you-survived-at-nf ... 1821277178

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:11 pm
by Keg
govmentchedda wrote:How soon we forget Jorge Cantu.


And Vinny Castilla...

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:01 pm
by DSafetyGuy
tennbengal wrote:The Diane Moskowitz bat signal is up:

https://deadspin.com/you-survived-at-nf ... 1821277178


I actually interviewed at NFL Network several years ago. It was a little bit of a courtesy interview on both sides - got referred by a friend who worked there, had met the person who interviewed me previously - ended up saying I wasn't interested because the salary was too low, which the interviewer understood completely.

From spending a little time around some of the employees, the culture there is unsurprising. Granted, I was in social situations with my friend's co-workers, but with their very stereotypical jock-ish, alpha male personalities, I wasn't going out of my way to make inroads with them.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:04 am
by rass

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:43 am
by Giff

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:47 pm
by Avram
Curt Schilling being Curt Schilling

https://deadspin.com/hall-of-fame-candi ... 1821655648

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:31 pm
by EnochRoot
Swatting? Jesus Titty-Fucking-Christ.

I mean, how’s that not a form of terrorism?

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:08 pm
by sancarlos
EnochRoot wrote:Swatting? Jesus Titty-Fucking-Christ.

I mean, how’s that not a form of terrorism?

Man, that is horrible. Lots of assholes in that story.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:13 pm
by A_B
Magary fisks simmons.

It's actually awful how easy it was.

Simmons: “I think granting Garoppolo clemency was the first, only and final moment of altruism in BB’s career. He just couldn’t look at those sad eyes in meetings any more as he chewed up a player’s prime.”

Magary: Oh well thank God I have HENCH here to toss out an embellished version of what Wickersham actually reported out and confirmed in the very article you’re bitching about. David Halberstam used quotes in plenty of his work, but maybe Simmons is right that he didn’t need them as much as others because he was the very best at what he did. Simmons, by contrast, needed to quote his fucking golf buddy to make a point. What’s that tell you?

Simmons: My theory, trotted out on last Friday’s B.S. Podcast, was that the younger Garoppolo had won over everyone in the locker room — true, by all accounts, by the way — whereas the notoriously team-first Brady promoted himself in 2017 more than ever before.

Magary: THAT’S IN THE ESPN STORY YOU COMPLETE FUCKING DOPE. Have I lost my goddamn mind? I feel like all my skin is gonna melt off. “Hey, this report about Blake Bortles being a lousy QB is fake news. Why isn’t anyone paying attention to my podcast, where I teased out the idea that Blake Bortles…is a lousy QB? TRUE BY ALL ACCOUNTS BY THE WAY.”

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:31 pm
by brian
Perfection.

This is good stuff too (and accurate).
People ask us why we harp on Bill Simmons a lot here and the answer is because he’s the most powerful, influential sportswriter in America. He is the only man who was given not one but TWO blank checks to open up a vanity shop, wherein he can collect writers to lend him the kind of prestige that his own work cannot. And he sucks. He is a deluded brat whose entire reference point for anything is himself, and who has sunk ever deeper into flannel-draped megalomania in his quest to become a peer among West Coast tech bros. That, my friends, is newsworthy shit.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:50 pm
by BSF21
https://deadspin.com/dead-letters-go-ba ... 1822818341

The guy who left the voicemail at the end of this article is apparently one of Indy's finest. Couple googles gets me that he lives here and almost lost his license to do business here because he wasn't paying child support and they tracked him down. Y'all should Camaro this asshat.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:08 pm
by Johnny Carwash
I called the number but it just said "This is duff, leave a message."

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:37 pm
by duff
Johnny Carwash wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:08 pm I called the number but it just said "This is duff, leave a message."
Hey monkeyboy, I am 574, not 317.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:56 pm
by tennbengal
hoo boy, is this good stuff (especially for those of us who follow and identify with big time college programs:

https://deadspin.com/how-big-colleges-p ... 1823903554

A taste:
There are analogues to “Spartans Will” at pretty much every major university. “We Are Penn State” is one of the closest, both for its strident emptiness and its association with a sexual-abuse scandal that reached the upper levels of the institution. There’s also “Bear Down” at Arizona, which was trotted out after Sean Miller came under fire for possibly endorsing the payment of DeAndre Ayton. My own alma mater, the University of Michigan, constantly bombards students and alumni with “Leaders and Best.” No industry in America has its slogans more cheerfully and passionately repeated by its customers than higher education. And now that schools have the power to connect with alums through all forms of social media, those slogans have only become more organized and widespread.

However wised-up you might be, this constant marketing tends to make an impression. Until I started reporting this article, I hadn’t noticed the extent to which Michigan’s “Block M”—registered as a trademark in 1982—dominates my post-grad apartment. It’s on my laptop, a pillow, a bottle opener, a flag, a blanket, and a pennant. Taken altogether, it’s both very normal and a little creepy. The University of Florida’s brand guide leads off with a particularly scary summary of this relationship between alum and alma mater: “The brand strengthens you—and you strengthen the brand.”

This isn’t always a healthy symbiosis. What the brand wants is not inherently synonymous with what you want, but when the brand sets its mind on something—selling merch, winning tax breaks, fighting back against scandals that call the whole cynical enterprise into question—it can readily field an army of loyalists to support the cause. These devoted followers will deflect criticism and attack those who question their alma mater just as loyally as they’ll cheer for the team on game day. They’ll do so in something like unison. They already know their rallying cry.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:05 pm
by tennbengal
Nods at Laura Wagner, well done:

https://deadspin.com/so-who-is-barstool ... 1826203697
Perhaps more importantly, though, the real value of PFT Commenter’s shtick imitating a dog-whistling, sexist, message-board idiot is tricking people—or at least certain people, whose opinions matter very much—into thinking that Barstool Sports is not in fact dominated by racist, neanderthal bullies who harass women online, videotape each other in the shower, and call underage girls hot, repeatedly, but in fact some high-concept gag. This isn’t the thing itself, PFT Commenter’s presence proclaims, in the face of a mountain of evidence that it is. But we’re all in on the joke.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:06 pm
by DSafetyGuy
tennbengal wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 2:05 pm Nods at Laura Wagner, well done:

https://deadspin.com/so-who-is-barstool ... 1826203697
Agreed.

Semi-related: I like Richard Deitsch's podcast, but I still can't get over his fawning over their (Barstool's) CEO, Erika Nardini.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:07 pm
by tennbengal
DSafetyGuy wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 2:06 pm
tennbengal wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 2:05 pm Nods at Laura Wagner, well done:

https://deadspin.com/so-who-is-barstool ... 1826203697
Agreed.

Semi-related: I like Richard Deitsch's podcast, but I still can't get over his fawning over their (Barstool's) CEO, Erika Nardini.
Yup.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:13 pm
by mister d
A very loud "no comment" in there.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:52 pm
by Johnnie
So, can he answer that question with full truth and empathy without getting fired from Barstool? If I worked for a dude who was an asshole, I'm going to put my paycheck ahead of a question like that 100% of the time.

You think I can be honest and open about Trump in an on the record interview?

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:19 pm
by Brontoburglar
you're also not hiding behind a caricature at your place of employment, so it's not apples to apples

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:22 pm
by Rex
That felt like the Swamp calling out someone for not posting scores.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:28 pm
by Johnny Carwash
Brontoburglar wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 3:19 pm you're also not hiding behind a caricature at your place of employment, so it's not apples to apples
Actually Johnnie is a mild-mannered insurance agent from Utah who crafted his internet persona to satirize military life and New England sports bro culture.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:34 pm
by Johnnie
Brontoburglar wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 3:19 pm you're also not hiding behind a caricature at your place of employment, so it's not apples to apples
That's totally fair. However, I wear a uniform and could potentially be placed into a position to answer a sensitive question regarding something about a politician or the president that could put me in a bind. I'm taught to deflect.

Luckily, the press isn't keen on asking lower enlisted members about the complexities of sexual assault, military suicide, or countries that we're bombing and why.

So that's my perspective. I won't defend barstool, but PFT/Eric seems like a decent person who works for a shit company. Same goes for the ZBT guys.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:37 pm
by rass
The Colbert hypothetical seemed fair.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:57 pm
by mister d
Johnnie wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 3:34 pmI won't defend barstool, but PFT/Eric seems like a decent person who works for a shit company.
Challenging that line of thinking it almost the entire point of the article.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:03 pm
by GoodKarma
It's possible to believe that a business or organization is a deplorable dumpster fire full of pick-your-negative-adjective and also believe that an individual within that organization is doing good work. I'm not sure why sides have to be chosen.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:31 pm
by Johnnie
Because everything is black and white. There's no such thing as nuance or critical thinking here.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:59 pm
by Joe K
FWIW, I have a hard time judging PFT or anyone else for working for Barstool without knowing what their other options were. I’d be willing to bet that Barstool offered PFT more money to work for them than anyone else did at the time. A lot of the other prominent sports blogs are pretty notorious for paying their contributors like crap.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:02 pm
by Joe K
Rex wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 3:22 pm That felt like the Swamp calling out someone for not posting scores.
Yeah. Not sure when Wagner joined Deadspin but any Deadpin or Gawker contributor who took a paycheck while AJ Daulerio was their editor doesn’t have much of a leg to stand on in criticizing anyone for working for Barstool.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 6:40 pm
by Rex
Joe K wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:02 pm
Rex wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 3:22 pm That felt like the Swamp calling out someone for not posting scores.
Yeah. Not sure when Wagner joined Deadspin but any Deadpin or Gawker contributor who took a paycheck while AJ Daulerio was their editor doesn’t have much of a leg to stand on in criticizing anyone for working for Barstool.
I guess the problem is you can’t find a sports media org pure enough to properly call out another sports media org.

Re: Deadspin

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 6:42 pm
by sancarlos
Rex wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:40 pm
Joe K wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:02 pm
Rex wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 3:22 pm That felt like the Swamp calling out someone for not posting scores.
Yeah. Not sure when Wagner joined Deadspin but any Deadpin or Gawker contributor who took a paycheck while AJ Daulerio was their editor doesn’t have much of a leg to stand on in criticizing anyone for working for Barstool.
I guess the problem is you can’t find a sports media org pure enough to properly call out another sports media org.
Damn, if only the folks at Sportsfrog still had a front page!