The Jurgen Klinsman Experience
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After watching Jermaine Jones at CB for 90 minutes last night in person... holy shit no this should not be a thing.
He had a ball early in the game that he put on Agudelo's foot from about 45 yards away that made me go "OK, maybe this has a chance of working," but after New England went up a goal it was a disaster. He marked Dwyer poorly on SKC's first goal, was scrambling all evening long and could have/should have gotten at least a yellow for all the wrestling he was having to do.
It's clear that NE wants to try to play out the back with JJ as the main distributor and I partially wonder if they're doing that in deference to the USMNT. Because I think they'd be easily the best team in the East if he sat in front of the back line (I had forgotten they have a rotation of Agudelo/Fagundez/Bunbury/Davies up top).
If the US wants to go to a back three (and I'm not sure they do) then I think he could be serviceable in a poor man's Busquets role. But as half of a CB pairing? No. No. No. No. No.
He had a ball early in the game that he put on Agudelo's foot from about 45 yards away that made me go "OK, maybe this has a chance of working," but after New England went up a goal it was a disaster. He marked Dwyer poorly on SKC's first goal, was scrambling all evening long and could have/should have gotten at least a yellow for all the wrestling he was having to do.
It's clear that NE wants to try to play out the back with JJ as the main distributor and I partially wonder if they're doing that in deference to the USMNT. Because I think they'd be easily the best team in the East if he sat in front of the back line (I had forgotten they have a rotation of Agudelo/Fagundez/Bunbury/Davies up top).
If the US wants to go to a back three (and I'm not sure they do) then I think he could be serviceable in a poor man's Busquets role. But as half of a CB pairing? No. No. No. No. No.
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I just saw this. Care to expand?Nonlinear FC wrote:Brontoburglar wrote:I think there's something to the idea that he's freed up a lot more without Dempsey on the field because Dempsey tends to drop so deep into the midfield.Shirley wrote:I wish the US had had THAT Bradley during the World Cup. He was clearly the best player on the field. Granted, those weren't true WC-quality squads, but still.
Nope.
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Most the chances are going to the US in the first 24 minutes against the freaky deeky Dutch. Shea and Zardes should have finished there chances.
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Yes I just typed that in....kiss of death
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Need more crowd shots.
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damn, didn't realize this was on!P.D.X. wrote:Need more crowd shots.
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Neither did the U.S. in the 2nd halfThe Sybian wrote:damn, didn't realize this was on!P.D.X. wrote:Need more crowd shots.
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Broken record.
Nonlinear FC wrote:Some of you who are friends with me on Facebook might notice something I posted this afternoon, but I'll put it here, too:
I had a big, long (probably boring) post written in my head about Klinsmann, but I'll spare everyone. Here's the bottomline: If you go back to last April's 2-2 draw against Mexico through yesterday's loss to Denmark, the US has given up a lead in the second half 7 out of 16 games. Folks, I'm not a statistician, but I'm gonna go ahead and call that a pattern/trend.
These 7 games do not include, btw, the heartbreaking Belgium loss, where we got blown up in the first OT, or the recent ass kicking suffered in Dublin, where we were tied at halftime only to get run off the field in the second.
And, fine, let's say you think it's unfair to go back to last April. Let's just talk about from post-World Cup on. We have given up leads 5 of 8 games. (Again, not counting the Ireland game, which really is pretty much indicative of this second half collapse pattern.)
I was relatively happy with our World Cup results, but when you start to look at the book of work Klinsmann is developing... This is troubling.
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We haven't given up a lead!
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P.D.X. wrote:We haven't given up a lead!
Yeah, it was more like Ireland.
With that said, I'm not a guy that's going to hope for my point to stand. If Holland is going to play bullshit defense, I'm happy for us to ring 'em up.
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And there you have it!!!
Wow.
Wow.
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HOLY SHIT!!
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I mean... I will take that every damn day all day...
But Jesus, the Dutch look fucking HORRIBLE in the back. Unreal.
But Jesus, the Dutch look fucking HORRIBLE in the back. Unreal.
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Incredible
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Yes I turned it off at 3-2 with 25 minutes to play
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Undefeated in the post-FBI era!
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(stole that from rex on the twitter)
Who knows? Maybe, you were kidnapped, tied up, taken away and held for ransom.
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Over a long time ago
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Over a long time ago
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I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.
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I know it is just a friendly, but first time ever beating the Dutch, and I think I saw first time ever scoring more than 1 goal against them. Not too shabby.
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Favorites? We already won 2018. It has been written. Jordan Morris wonder strike from 3 feet out, as he refuses to dare to Wondo.mister d wrote:World Cup favorites!!!!!!!
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tennbengal wrote:I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.
I think I know the answer, but do you have access to ESPN3 or the Watch ESPN app? Pretty sure you can catch it there.
But, yeah, I'd be shocked if this isn't rerun on Classic or ESPN News or something tonight.
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That was the Bradley that people irrationally expect to see every game
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I don't actually, because of Directv.Nonlinear FC wrote:tennbengal wrote:I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.
I think I know the answer, but do you have access to ESPN3 or the Watch ESPN app? Pretty sure you can catch it there.
But, yeah, I'd be shocked if this isn't rerun on Classic or ESPN News or something tonight.
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Actually, TB, you've had it for over three months.tennbengal wrote:I don't actually, because of Directv.Nonlinear FC wrote:tennbengal wrote:I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.
I think I know the answer, but do you have access to ESPN3 or the Watch ESPN app? Pretty sure you can catch it there.
But, yeah, I'd be shocked if this isn't rerun on Classic or ESPN News or something tonight.
That said, I just tried to access it and it wouldn't accept my email and password for DirecTV, which is not the case every month when I pay my bill.
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Worked for me earlier.DSafetyGuy wrote:Actually, TB, you've had it for over three months.tennbengal wrote:I don't actually, because of Directv.Nonlinear FC wrote:tennbengal wrote:I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.
I think I know the answer, but do you have access to ESPN3 or the Watch ESPN app? Pretty sure you can catch it there.
But, yeah, I'd be shocked if this isn't rerun on Classic or ESPN News or something tonight.
That said, I just tried to access it and it wouldn't accept my email and password for DirecTV, which is not the case every month when I pay my bill.
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Yikes, thanks for the heads up. Had totally missed that was now available for me.
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Mix just equalized vs Ger.
Also, Bradley is playing out of his mind. Best player on the pitch so far.
Also, Bradley is playing out of his mind. Best player on the pitch so far.
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Absolutely gorgeous.
And as good as Bradley has been, he's missed a few opps in the first half. He's been unreal good.
And as good as Bradley has been, he's missed a few opps in the first half. He's been unreal good.
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Stunned.
And, fuck it, deserved. U.S. has been the better team.
And, fuck it, deserved. U.S. has been the better team.
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Bobby Wood, nice week.
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That was a fun way to spend the afternoon
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Maybe they can add Bobby Wood to the Gold Cup pool now?
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RunDMB out of international retirement on the Gold Cup squad. Jurgen has made it a priority to not end up on a home and home series for the Confederation Cup.
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Fuck yeah. That shit was glorious to watch. Agree with tennb, the US were the better team in the second half, unquestionably.
I said it before, but to reiterate, I don't root against my team to prove some point I made is "right." I was concerned about shitting the bed in the second half... I no longer have that concern.
I said it before, but to reiterate, I don't root against my team to prove some point I made is "right." I was concerned about shitting the bed in the second half... I no longer have that concern.
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Undefeated since bringing FIFA to its knees. We're probably bribing officials.
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I put this up on Facebook, but a lot of you losers aren't exposed to my brilliance on that platform:
The goal at the end of the first half featured 30 passes in a row, in stretch that lasted over 90 seconds.
We've done that a few times, most notably a game in the Confederations Cup, though I don't recall the opponent.
At any rate, it was a foreshadowing of what was to come in the second half. The US was more committed to the game, lulled the Germans into passivity and then struck with incisive runs and passes. It was about as good as I've ever seen the US play against a high quality opponent. And I don't want to hear all the crap about Germany's B team. Four years ago, we simply don't have the mentality or tactics to play the World Champions, on their soil, at that high a level.
I'm back to my early optimism regarding Klinsmann.
The goal at the end of the first half featured 30 passes in a row, in stretch that lasted over 90 seconds.
We've done that a few times, most notably a game in the Confederations Cup, though I don't recall the opponent.
At any rate, it was a foreshadowing of what was to come in the second half. The US was more committed to the game, lulled the Germans into passivity and then struck with incisive runs and passes. It was about as good as I've ever seen the US play against a high quality opponent. And I don't want to hear all the crap about Germany's B team. Four years ago, we simply don't have the mentality or tactics to play the World Champions, on their soil, at that high a level.
I'm back to my early optimism regarding Klinsmann.
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http://www.mlssoccer.com/goldcup/2015/n ... ign=Unpaid" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very detailed breakdown of the Diskerud goal. It's very good in terms of breaking down all of the off the ball stuff that made this play so incredible. Share this with people you know that want to try and understand the sophistication and complexity involved with the game at this level.
Very detailed breakdown of the Diskerud goal. It's very good in terms of breaking down all of the off the ball stuff that made this play so incredible. Share this with people you know that want to try and understand the sophistication and complexity involved with the game at this level.
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