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brian wrote:Wasn't the personal foul on Jones for shoving an official? You have to call that. But I'll admit CBS replays were bullshit so I didn't get a great look.

yeah on the live shot i him him shove the official.

I don't know what they were arguing about, that's a nasty hit for 15 yards. Just regroup from the 32 yard line.
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tennbengal wrote:I might be done. At some point it's too much heartbreak.
It really must suck to have a team make the playoffs regularly.
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brian wrote:Phil Simms is the worst.
Without a doubt.

But he did say something that I agree with - "that was one of the worst losses in history."

Never seen anything like that. And not even iffy calls, that Burfict hit was filthy, as bad as I've ever seen.

Sincere condolences to you Bengals fans. That was horrifying to watch.
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brian wrote:And Pittsburgh against Denver without Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown and playing a third-string RB? Ugh.
I though DeAngelo was coming back next week?

Hopefully Brown doesn't have a concussion, but if it is Ben in his current state, versus Peyton it'll be fun watching a game where the QBs can only throw 10-15 yards. Sort of like my nephews pee-wee games.
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Pruitt wrote:
brian wrote:Phil Simms is the worst.
Without a doubt.

But he did say something that I agree with - "that was one of the worst losses in history."

Never seen anything like that. And not even iffy calls, that Burfict hit was filthy, as bad as I've ever seen.

Sincere condolences to you Bengals fans. That was horrifying to watch.
Plus he said:
And now the tables have switched!
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And has Nantz ever been as excited about anything non-Masters related as he was about Bryant's TD catch?
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That ending was everything wrong with the NFL. A brutal hit that nearly decapitated one of the league's most exciting skill players, followed by a personal foul committed by a guy who should already be in prison for attempted murder. I feel a little bad for Jeremy Hill but at least his jackass teammates will get more of the blame.
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I want to see Nantz and Joe Buck do a game together once to see if the collective sanctimony kills the NFL
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Joe K wrote:That ending was everything wrong with the NFL. A brutal hit that nearly decapitated one of the league's most exciting skill players, followed by a personal foul committed by a guy who should already be in prison for attempted murder. I feel a little bad for Jeremy Hill but at least his jackass teammates will get more of the blame.
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brian wrote:And Pittsburgh against Denver without Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown and playing a third-string RB? Ugh.
On behalf of the Broncos, I will accept whatever advantages flow our way.
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You are allowed to hit helmet to helmet on the nfl. You guys either meant you aren't allowed to spear or you don't know the actual rules
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Whatever year it is, the first presidential candidate who says he will ban football gets my vote, I think.
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Saw this pointed out on reddit--Bucky Brooks at NFL.com had this to say in his preview column a few days ago:
Biggest weaknesses: The Bengals lack a glaring weakness from a personnel standpoint, but their emotional control and discipline could prevent them from moving on in the tournament. The defense, in particular, is loaded with temperamental playmakers (like Vontaze Burfict and Adam Jones) with high-revving emotions. While the unit plays on a string on each level, the occasional lack of discipline and emotional control has resulted in Cincinnati ranking near the top of the NFL in penalties. Given the significant impact of penalties, particularly personal fouls, the Bengals must keep their cool or run the risk of short-circuiting their playoff run via a lack of composure.
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While he opened with Steelers/Bengals, I think Francesa is more worked up by the Texans bringing in Wilfork and Watt for a gimmick play on the goal line down 13-0 than he was by anything that happened in Cincinnati.
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Rush2112 wrote:
brian wrote:And Pittsburgh against Denver without Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown and playing a third-string RB? Ugh.
I though DeAngelo was coming back next week?

Hopefully Brown doesn't have a concussion, but if it is Ben in his current state, versus Peyton it'll be fun watching a game where the QBs can only throw 10-15 yards. Sort of like my nephews pee-wee games.
all 3 will play next week

Lewis has to be fired, right? He totally lost control of his players last night. I also got to ask, who would even want Pac Man. He has made a career out of this kind of stuff.
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I'd be shocked if Roethlisberger or Brown played next week.
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brian wrote:Roethlisberger obviously can't throw the ball more than 10 yards and they still think that's the best option.
The most confusing part about that last Pittsburgh drive is how no one said that the first part of your sentence was clearly the case.
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brian wrote:Roethlisberger obviously can't throw the ball more than 10 yards and they still think that's the best option.
The most confusing part about that last Pittsburgh drive is how no one said that the first part of your sentence was clearly the case.
How disappointed were they when Ben blew up their spot by not coming back into the game when he first came back to the sideline?
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Wondered the same thing on bens arm strength but you can't risk playing underneath against steelers wrs in that situation. Absent the actual turn of events, the biggest risk was still ben throwing his shoulder out chucking the ball 40 yards downfield. Steelers did a good job hiding the extent of injury such that even Denver has to wonder what they're getting.
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Wait...so the Shazier hit that you guys are bitching about was the one on Bernard where he caught the ball, turned around, squared up to head up field, and then Shazier hit him? That? Do you idiots even watch football? That's not a fucking defenseless receiver...not even close. By the way...the refs took a TD off the fucking board on that play! It should have been 22-0! The Bengals caught the biggest break of the game on that play. Holy fuck.

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I don't know...the pass where AB almost got decapitated was kind of a rope, no?
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Jerloma wrote:Wait...so the Shazier hit that you guys are bitching about was the one on Bernard where he caught the ball, turned around, squared up to head up field, and then Shazier hit him? That? Do you idiots even watch football? That's not a fucking defenseless receiver...not even close. By the way...the refs took a TD off the fucking board on that play! It should have been 22-0! The Bengals caught the biggest break of the game on that play. Holy fuck.

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That's like sparing, right? That's one of those things that happens 8 times a game that never gets called. Burfict probably did it 8 times alone last night.
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Jerloma wrote:That's like sparing, right? That's one of those things that happens 8 times a game that never gets called. Burfict probably did it 8 times alone last night.
It's not legal to hit another player in the helmet with the crown of your helmet. It's just not.
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Brian, this is what you said...
You're not allowed to hit helmet to helmet EVER in the NFL regardless.
Sorry, you don't cease to be an idiot.
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Yeah I misspoke what I was trying to say. Sue me. But it was still an illegal hit no matter what mental gymnastics you want to use to justify it.
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Man, he is such a cunt.
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Burfict is kind of a bad guy too.
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J-Lo in a real Rush to defend that Shazier hit, huh?
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brian wrote:
degenerasian wrote:
brian wrote:Ball don't lie. (Also the entire AFC other than New England is hot garbage.)
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Well refs lost control and Bengals took their anger out on Ben.
That sack was ten times cleaner a hit than Shazier's.
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mister d wrote:J-Lo in a real Rush to defend that Shazier hit, huh?
They could have called sparing. I'm glad that they did not. I wish they didn't blow it dead. These are my final thoughts.
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mister d wrote:J-Lo in a real Rush to defend that Shazier hit, huh?
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JoePoz with a nice column. Money:
Was Shazier’s hit as egregious and shocking and vicious as Burfict’s later hit on Brown? No, but I guess my answer would be: Who cares? As former film critic Patrick Taggart once said when asked to compare two terrible movies, “distinctions at this level are meaningless.” Both hits were ruthless and dangerous, and both were obvious penalties. The officials called one of them but not the other.

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mister d wrote:J-Lo in a real Rush to defend that Shazier hit, huh?

The criticisms of the hit were wrong. He's right that spearing happens all the time and is never called. That being said, it is still against the rules.

But there is so much I'm reading criticizing the helmet to helmet nature of it that it's worth countering. Helmet to helmet there is legal. If I argued a baseball rule and I was wrong about it, even if the player in question had still done something against a different rule, I have a feeling you'd respond.
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I hope they get rid of Burfict. Not necessarily because he's a dirty player who keeps doing this stuff because he almost never gets flagged or significantly punished for it, but primarily because he's good as hell and is the only linebacker on that team worth a damn.

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I take burfict all day. Great player you need the edge and you don't have to play against him. 2nd penalty lost the game.
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New England opens as 5.5 point favorite. Thinking about jumping on New England now in case public bets it up over 7 and I can come back and try to middle it on 7.
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