2016 NHL Offseason Thread

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:28 am

Mirtle says there's atleast one trade coming today so I'm on full barf alert.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:29 pm

So, Duclair and a first for a year of Yandle and a 6th rounder, eh?

Would have thought the Rangers would have received more for him.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:17 pm

You forgot about the 2nd and also please go to hell.

(I think I'm in the stat-y Rangers group that didn't want to sign Yandle. He's a massive loss short term but we don't need a third defenseman signed into their mid-30s. Still surprised we didn't get more with Vesey going for a 3rd and (the inferior) Goligoski a 5th.)

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:29 am

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:22 pm

Kinda weird to see the NHL Awards show in the same venue I regularly watch concerts in.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:24 pm

When Patrick Kane talks, it's almost like he's an alien who is trying to impersonate what he thinks a human being sounds like.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:27 pm

brian wrote:When Patrick Kane talks, it's almost like he's an alien who is trying to impersonate what he thinks a human being sounds like.

Maybe he will get better as he continues to load trophies into what I can only assume will be a wheelbarrow.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:37 pm

I hope he falls off the stage and breaks both of his legs.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:11 pm

Maybe he'll go backstage and trip over the drape kit no that's a reach sorry delete

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:39 pm

No disrespect to Ed Snider, but not exactly psyched that the NHL's way of honoring Gordie Howe was basically like a lengthy tribute to Snider and then "and by the way, Gordie Howe died too".

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:52 pm

Pretty sure you're required to call him "Mr. Snider".

Also, I read a rumor the Blackheaks are trying to dump off Kruger. Another great decision by Bowman.

Post by **brian** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:02 am

Pretty interesting point about merchandising in this article.

Regardless of success on the ice, Las Vegas might be one of the top markets in the NHL for merchandise sales (even after the novelty wears off).

“If I can’t sell a lot of jerseys in Las Vegas to 42 million people that come here, then I’m not a very successful salesman or businessman,” Foley said.

“My goal is to make it an international brand, so people come from China or they come from Europe, and they walk away and they’re wearing our jerseys, wearing our hats, wearing our T-shirts, have gym bags and so on.”

Post by **brian** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:07 am

Meant to post that in the Las Vegas NHL thread though I guess it almost fits here too.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:04 am

mister d wrote:You forgot about the 2nd and also please go to hell.

(I think I'm in the stat-y Rangers group that didn't want to sign Yandle. He's a massive loss short term but we don't need a third defenseman signed into their mid-30s. Still surprised we didn't get more with Vesey going for a 3rd and (the inferior) Goligoski a 5th.)

The Yandle deal with the Panthers is ridiculous. 7 years 45 mill. Do NHL teams even negotiate? Why is this the sport that just throws money away and then locks the players out every 7 years.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:18 am

Only way that deal is worse is if its in NY.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:52 am

Yea I can't wrap my head around this one.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:58 am

Maybe Florida management figures Yandle will be like Gordie Howe and play at a high level into his forties. Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:11 am

I imagine about 20% of my twitter account is arguing with other mostly like-minded Rangers fans about Yandle and his relative worth. I think he's a very good offensive 2LD who *needs* to be sheltered to avoid neutralizing his gains. Others think he's a legit top 1LD without caveats. The impossible-to-prove piece is what happens if you run him out there 25 minutes per night without concern for zone starts and matchups, because he hasn't done that at all ...

(It should probably be noted that the last time I strayed from the stathead Rangers fan consensus it was also on an exiting defenseman and I ended up being very wrong.)

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:43 pm

first BIG rumor.

Subban to Edmonton for 4th overall pick + Draisaitl

on either side, would you do it?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:27 pm

Oilers hell yes.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:39 pm

mister d wrote:Oilers hell yes.

Seconded

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:46 pm

sancarlos wrote:
mister d wrote:Oilers hell yes.
Seconded

I'm hesitant. Subban's contract is an anchor. Draisaitl is cheap right now and a powerful center. And the 4th pick is probably Dubois or Tkachuk.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:44 pm

Elite puck-carrying defensemen are rare.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:09 pm

Flames have their goalie. Brian Elliott.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:16 am

Potentially the Rangers biggest non-game day in a very long time.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:04 pm

I guess moving that Datsyuk cap space wasn't that hard after all.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:13 pm

He's the most attractive possible empty cap hit, so I guess that's something. Seems like a bunch of times the cost to move up 4-6 picks was massive this year.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:16 am

mister d wrote:Also, I read a rumor the Blackheaks are trying to dump off Kruger. Another great decision by Bowman.

Well, at least they didn't trade Teravainen so they could keep Shaw.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:19 am

Steve of phpBB wrote:
mister d wrote:Also, I read a rumor the Blackheaks are trying to dump off Kruger. Another great decision by Bowman.
Well, at least they didn't trade Teravainen so they could keep Shaw.

Good return for a guy they weren't going to sign anyway. I'm good with it.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:39 am

BSF21 wrote:
Steve of phpBB wrote:
mister d wrote:Also, I read a rumor the Blackheaks are trying to dump off Kruger. Another great decision by Bowman.
Well, at least they didn't trade Teravainen so they could keep Shaw.
Good return for a guy they weren't going to sign anyway. I'm good with it.

But, BSF, if they weren't going to sign Shaw anyway, why trade away Teuvo? Think there is another shoe yet to drop? Or, I guess maybe that was just the price they had to pay to unload Bickell's contract.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:43 am

sancarlos wrote:
BSF21 wrote:
Steve of phpBB wrote:
mister d wrote:Also, I read a rumor the Blackheaks are trying to dump off Kruger. Another great decision by Bowman.
Well, at least they didn't trade Teravainen so they could keep Shaw.
Good return for a guy they weren't going to sign anyway. I'm good with it.
But, BSF, if they weren't going to sign Shaw anyway, why trade away Teuvo? Think there is another shoe yet to drop? Or, I guess maybe that was just the price they had to pay to unload Bickell's contract.

I'm firmly in the camp that believes if you're Carolina taking Bicks contract, you demand Teuvo in the package. I'm not confident they we're going to be able to sign him either, but there's no way that wasn't a package deal.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:34 pm

A hockey trade!!

Taylor Hall to New Jersey for Adam Larsson

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:00 pm

When the immediate reaction to a move you just made is to determine whether it is the "worst trade ever", that can't be good.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:03 pm

oh, and

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:04 pm

and maybe Subban/Weber???

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:05 pm

BIGGER REAL NHL Trade

PK Subban to Nashvile to Shea Weber!

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:07 pm

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:17 pm

What an afternoon! Very pleasantly surprised that the Stamkos AAV is $8.5. Can't believe how one sided those other trades are.

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:56 pm

govmentchedda wrote:What an afternoon! Very pleasantly surprised that the Stamkos AAV is $8.5. Can't believe how one sided those other trades are.

Meh. Subban is an attention whore. He did everything required of him when it came to team publicity, practices and games. But after that it was Subban Time! Sure he donated 10 million dollars to a Children's Hospital here in Montreal but that was probably for tax reasons. Not that he didn't care about the children there, he visited all the time. But in the end, it was just about him being noticed.

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:59 pm

oh, and also, he is a greedy player that gives away the puck too much and tries to do a lot by himself. Sure when it works, it looks amazing but I'd rather have a Weber on my team.