2016 NHL Offseason Thread

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:13 pm

With all due respect, give me a fricking break. Subban is a better player than Weber. (Weber was crap in the playoffs against the Sharks.) He's cheaper than Weber. He doesn't have huge bonuses looming. He's four years younger than Weber. His deal is four years shorter than Weber. You can have the weak "good soldier" win. The Preds win this one hands down.

But, Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson? Holy shit. That's the most one-sided trade in recent memory! Hall is a great player. Larsson is potential.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:23 pm

TheHumanComa wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:What an afternoon! Very pleasantly surprised that the Stamkos AAV is $8.5. Can't believe how one sided those other trades are.
Meh. Subban is an attention whore. He did everything required of him when it came to team publicity, practices and games. But after that it was Subban Time! Sure he donated 10 million dollars to a Children's Hospital here in Montreal but that was probably for tax reasons. Not that he didn't care about the children there, he visited all the time. But in the end, it was just about him being noticed.

I honestly can't tell if the tone is sarcasm or complete butt hurt.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:27 pm

I wonder if all the other GMs in the league are kicking themselves...We could have had Hall?

At least Bapo! will be psyched he'll be able to see him more.

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:41 pm

BSF21 wrote:
TheHumanComa wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:What an afternoon! Very pleasantly surprised that the Stamkos AAV is $8.5. Can't believe how one sided those other trades are.
Meh. Subban is an attention whore. He did everything required of him when it came to team publicity, practices and games. But after that it was Subban Time! Sure he donated 10 million dollars to a Children's Hospital here in Montreal but that was probably for tax reasons. Not that he didn't care about the children there, he visited all the time. But in the end, it was just about him being noticed.
I honestly can't tell if the tone is sarcasm or complete butt hurt.

Neither. I'm glad to be rid of him. i know he is an amazing player on the ice, but you guys don't understand how much he was a presence off the ice. He was everywhere in his dumb suits promoting himself. Fuck him and his dumb outfits. and his look at me attitude. Montreal is about the team, not the player. We don't need any spotlight whores here. so what we got a lesser defenseman that actually makes the canadian national teams while Subban doesn't. so what we got a captain of a national hockey league team in exchange for a glory hog. I don't want poison on my team. and pk is poison.

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:14 pm

Sucks for Montreal, because you know this move will only make him mature faster. But if they kept him around, he would keep living his high profile life. He just watched the NBA finals live, then flew out to France for Euro 2016, going to Croatia tomorrow... just look at his instagram account and you'll see Nashville, I'm looking forward to a hipster free hockey season.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:27 pm

The link on the tweet below is a good read regarding the Taylor Hall trade. Also sez Milan Lucic expected to sign with the Oil on Friday - possibly a seven-year contract (!)

Post by **brian** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:21 am

TheHumanComa wrote:
BSF21 wrote:
TheHumanComa wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:What an afternoon! Very pleasantly surprised that the Stamkos AAV is $8.5. Can't believe how one sided those other trades are.
Meh. Subban is an attention whore. He did everything required of him when it came to team publicity, practices and games. But after that it was Subban Time! Sure he donated 10 million dollars to a Children's Hospital here in Montreal but that was probably for tax reasons. Not that he didn't care about the children there, he visited all the time. But in the end, it was just about him being noticed.
I honestly can't tell if the tone is sarcasm or complete butt hurt.
Neither. I'm glad to be rid of him. i know he is an amazing player on the ice, but you guys don't understand how much he was a presence off the ice. He was everywhere in his dumb suits promoting himself. Fuck him and his dumb outfits. and his look at me attitude. Montreal is about the team, not the player. We don't need any spotlight whores here. so what we got a lesser defenseman that actually makes the canadian national teams while Subban doesn't. so what we got a captain of a national hockey league team in exchange for a glory hog. I don't want poison on my team. and pk is poison.

Substitute "Cardinals" for "Canadiens" and "St. Louis" for "Montreal" and....

Yeah, sounds about right.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:24 am

Seriously. That trade is awful for Montreal. Nearly as bad as the Hall trade is for Edmonton.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:20 pm

No, it's worse, by a lot, because of the contract. And the Hall deal might have been the worse I've seen before that.

TheHumanComa wrote:He did everything required of him when it came to team publicity, practices and games. But after that it was Subban Time! Sure he donated 10 million dollars to a Children's Hospital here in Montreal but that was probably for tax reasons.

This is a legit contender for the worst three sentence string in (thinks about it) three(?) years.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:29 am

So it was really all about character and definitely not some other unique-to-Subban factor in Montreal. This is made much more believable today with their signing of Alexander Goddamn Radulov.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:55 am

A lot funnier if you know whose account it is.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:57 am

mister d wrote:
A lot funnier if you know whose account it is.

Love it. I couldn't stand him when he was in VAN but he's funny as shit.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:58 am

For someone who is actively trying to be funny, he almost never misses. Its impressive.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:59 am

Self-Deprecating humor is the best humor.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:08 am

And that self-awareness is probably what sabotaged him in Vancouver.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:46 am

Yeah, he seems too intelligent to be a goalie.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:47 am

mister d wrote:So it was really all about character and definitely not some other unique-to-Subban factor in Montreal. This is made much more believable today with their signing of Alexander Goddamn Radulov.

I wonder how many Hab fans realize what a bad actor this guy was in Nashville, back in the day.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:53 am

But atleast he's not ...

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:14 am

Andrew Ladd to the Islanders
Loui Ericsson to the Canucks
Milan Lucic to the Oilers
Brian Campbell to the Blackhawks

All per sportsnet.ca or nhl.com

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:19 am

This is so much fun as long as NYR stay out.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:22 am

mister d wrote:This is so much fun as long as NYR stay out.

I feel the same way for the Sharks. Some of these long-term deals sure look like millstones around their necks down the road. Six years for Ericsson? Seven for Lucic and Ladd?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:23 am

Boston just gave 5 years to Backes to see if he can fade all the way underground.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:31 am

Brouwer to Flames 4x4.5
It's not bad I guess.

I've always hated free agency day, totally destroys hockey.

Post by **Sabo** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:32 am

Okposo to Buffalo for seven years.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:44 am

Ahhh. Lovejoy was one of those guys I was hoping we could sneak in on day 2.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:47 am

Frans Nielsen to the Wings - six years
Eric Staal to the Wild
Tom Gilbert to the Kings

Degen, I think Brouwer will be a good addition for the Flames!

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:49 am

The Pens aren't doing shit*, and that's just fine!

(*they gave GMJR an extension, which 6 months ago (certainly 7, before the Daley/Scuderi trade) might have be WTF'd, but now whatever)

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:49 am

Sabo wrote:Okposo to Buffalo for seven years.

It will be interesting to see how Okposo does without Tavares there setting him up. (Matt Moulson, anyone?)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:53 am

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:53 am

Dammit. You edited as I was searching for the pics.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:20 pm

This seems really funny.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:59 pm

Habs get rid of Subban for attitude problems, sign Radulov

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:40 pm

Three Canadian teams chasing Kris Russell proves that everything, including learning your lesson on signing possession sieves to massive contracts, comes late to Canada.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:49 pm

sancarlos wrote:Frans Nielsen to the Wings - six years
Eric Staal to the Wild
Tom Gilbert to the Kings

Degen, I think Brouwer will be a good addition for the Flames!

The Brouwer contract looks better as the day goes on and the crazy money being spent.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:50 pm

mister d wrote:Three Canadian teams chasing Kris Russell proves that everything, including learning your lesson on signing possession sieves to massive contracts, comes late to Canada.

Teams go crazy today, i dont know why. It's everything that is wrong with the NHL.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:57 pm

mister d wrote:Three Canadian teams chasing Kris Russell proves that everything, including learning your lesson on signing possession sieves to massive contracts, comes late to Canada.

Why is that guy so over-valued? First at the trade deadline earlier this year, and again, now.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:59 pm

sancarlos wrote:
mister d wrote:Three Canadian teams chasing Kris Russell proves that everything, including learning your lesson on signing possession sieves to massive contracts, comes late to Canada.
Why is that guy so over-valued? First at the trade deadline earlier this year, and again, now.

analytic guys love him because he can block shots.
non analytic guys think he's a "Good Canadian Boy"

Rams Fanny · Post by **Rams Fanny** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:51 pm

degenerasian wrote:Teams go crazy today, i dont know why. It's everything that is wrong with the NHL.

Then you must love the Senators. They are actually planning to do nothing. The GM has said he "likes this team". Finished eight points back of the last playoff spot and they're standing pat. Smart. Unless of course Dion Phaneuf is worth ten points all by himself.

The Black Knights cannot get here fast enough.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:53 pm

So damn excited about the Hedman signing. I like the bridge deal for Vasy too. Let's get 86 done fast, and not lose another game for 5 years.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:57 pm

Rams Fanny wrote:
degenerasian wrote:Teams go crazy today, i dont know why. It's everything that is wrong with the NHL.
Then you must love the Senators. They are actually planning to do nothing. The GM has said he "likes this team". Finished eight points back of the last playoff spot and they're standing pat. Smart. Unless of course Dion Phaneuf is worth ten points all by himself.

The Black Knights cannot get here fast enough.

Red Wings would be a better example. There are 364 other days to make deals.
Free agency happening in one day giving players the most money possible is crazy.