2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Moderators: Shirley, Sabo, brian, rass, DaveInSeattle
- DaveInSeattle
- The Dude
- Posts: 8566
- Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:51 am
- Location: Seattle, WA
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
someone check on Shirley....
I can't believe what I just saw.
I can't believe what I just saw.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
UVA is the fraud-iest we always knew they were. Sleep tight.
Noli Timere Messorem
- degenerasian
- The Dude
- Posts: 12381
- Joined: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:22 pm
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
This is the upset Twitter was made for. We have...
- The 16 seed with an acronym as its name, leading to many puns and memes
- The team mascot being a dog, so more puns and memes
- Tony Bennett is the losing coach, so even more puns and memes
- The guy running UMBC's Twitter must be drunk, and it's amazing
- The 16 seed with an acronym as its name, leading to many puns and memes
- The team mascot being a dog, so more puns and memes
- Tony Bennett is the losing coach, so even more puns and memes
- The guy running UMBC's Twitter must be drunk, and it's amazing
Kung Fu movies are like porn. There's 1 on 1, then 2 on 1, then a group scene..
- DSafetyGuy
- The Dude
- Posts: 8843
- Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:29 pm
- Location: Behind the high school
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Any guesses at the odds of the first 16 seed to beat a one-seed doing so by 20 points?
“The running, the jumping... a celebration of life.”
- Pruitt
- The Dude
- Posts: 18105
- Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:02 am
- Location: North Shore of Lake Ontario
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Astounding.
Probably the record for beating the point spread as well. 41.5 points.
Probably the record for beating the point spread as well. 41.5 points.
"beautiful, with an exotic-yet-familiar facial structure and an arresting gaze."
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
I’d have been hammered by halftime. If I thought they had a chance of coming back, I’d have dismissed it and drank less but still drank.degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:36 pm This is the upset Twitter was made for. We have...
- The 16 seed with an acronym as its name, leading to many puns and memes
- The team mascot being a dog, so more puns and memes
- Tony Bennett is the losing coach, so even more puns and memes
- The guy running UMBC's Twitter must be drunk, and it's amazing
Translated: I’d need a freaking wheelbarrow.
Noli Timere Messorem
- Pruitt
- The Dude
- Posts: 18105
- Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:02 am
- Location: North Shore of Lake Ontario
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
I mean, look at these good boys!
Love it.
Love it.
"beautiful, with an exotic-yet-familiar facial structure and an arresting gaze."
- Nonlinear FC
- The Dude
- Posts: 11025
- Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:09 pm
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
UVa just fucking lost the plot in the second half. I mean, earlier, sure, but not so much that in the first half you could see them using their athletic prowess to overpower.
But that second half was borderline embarrassing for UVa. Brutal.
But that second half was borderline embarrassing for UVa. Brutal.
You can lead a horse to fish, but you can't fish out a horse.
- DSafetyGuy
- The Dude
- Posts: 8843
- Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:29 pm
- Location: Behind the high school
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Syracuse has held TCU without a field goal for just shy of nine minutes (and counting).
They have outscored TCU 10-6 in that time.
For your safety (and sanity), please do not watch.
They have outscored TCU 10-6 in that time.
For your safety (and sanity), please do not watch.
“The running, the jumping... a celebration of life.”
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Good point. Absolute complete mental breakdown. Bennett’s coaching career is done. I’m not joking. He’ll never live this down. He would have to win two national titles.
Bandwagon fan of the 2023 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
- DSafetyGuy
- The Dude
- Posts: 8843
- Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:29 pm
- Location: Behind the high school
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
First 2-seed to lose to a 15-seed? Syracuse.
Off. The. Hook. Forever.
ETA: And the largest margin of loss among the eight 2-seeds to lose to a 15-seed was 13 points.
Off. The. Hook. Forever.
ETA: And the largest margin of loss among the eight 2-seeds to lose to a 15-seed was 13 points.
Last edited by DSafetyGuy on Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
“The running, the jumping... a celebration of life.”
- Pruitt
- The Dude
- Posts: 18105
- Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:02 am
- Location: North Shore of Lake Ontario
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
They looked like a beaten team early. Absolutely shocking performance.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:48 pm UVa just fucking lost the plot in the second half. I mean, earlier, sure, but not so much that in the first half you could see them using their athletic prowess to overpower.
But that second half was borderline embarrassing for UVa. Brutal.
"beautiful, with an exotic-yet-familiar facial structure and an arresting gaze."
- A_B
- The Dude
- Posts: 23560
- Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:36 am
- Location: Getting them boards like a wolf in the chicken pen.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Attendance seems to be terrible at every venue.
Hold on, I'm trying to see if Jack London ever gets this fire built or not.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
They play 4 games and 60 percent of the tickets end up bought by one team. Can’t blame some ppl for hanging out until midnight.
Bandwagon fan of the 2023 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
- The Sybian
- The Dude
- Posts: 19078
- Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:36 am
- Location: Working in the Crap Part of Jersey
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
I guess there was another game after the Buffalo game?
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
-Pruitt
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
I think they have a little chutzpah left over from their AEC run. I believe they had lost to Vermont 23 straight times (it may be 33) and beat them on a 40 ft three....so playing for broke just like Vermont did when they beat Syracuse 15+ years ago.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
But the history involved here... Again, no offense, but this is amazing to watch. And to have a little local flavor adds to the experience.
Wouldn't shock me if Kstate beat UMBC by 30, UMBC shot lights out.
But wouldn't shock me if UMBC beat K State, especially if they shoot like that again.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Hmm. I see that applied in some cases, such as #4 seed Gonzaga going only 400 miles. But, #4 seed Wichita State traveled 1,300 miles. #4 seed Arizona traveled 1,000 miles.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:27 pm And, (way upthread), yes, the tournament tries to "protect" the top four seeds in each regional by keeping them close to home. Frankly, there should have been a way to get both Michigan State and Michigan to play in Detroit.
But, enough on that. I really hope Shirley is ok. I’d be devastated if I was in his shoes.
"What a bunch of pedantic pricks." - sybian
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
I can claim UMBC because it’s the very first college I ever dropped out of, right?
BFJ is the town wizard who runs a magic shop. He also has a golem that he has trained to attack anti-Semites.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
condolences dave. thats brutal to take
MOTHERFUCKING 2017 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!!!Gunpowder wrote:you transcend douchedom.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tourna
Obviously UMBC shot really well in the second half, but the ultra slow-paced style of play UVA employs (dead last in tempo, per KenPom) is ideal for creating the conditions for surprising upsets in a single elimination format. Any team can and will have random hot stretches, but the more possessions in a game, the more likely that the better team will emerge on top. Also, a fast paced game would generally favor the deeper and more athletic team which, one would think would always be the 1-seed in a 1/16 matchup. Basically, as I saw pointed out by an NBA writer on Twitter last night, UVA plays, stylistically, like a 16 seed should. That surely helps them vs. teams like UNC and Duke but isn't great when you face a UMBC team that gets in the zone for a half.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
- Pruitt
- The Dude
- Posts: 18105
- Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:02 am
- Location: North Shore of Lake Ontario
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
The Midwest Regional played in San Diego featured two teams from South Carolina, Auburn and New Mexico State (700 miles away). Not much local interest there.
"beautiful, with an exotic-yet-familiar facial structure and an arresting gaze."
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
As least they didn't get Navy in the first round. Might have lost by 42.
- A_B
- The Dude
- Posts: 23560
- Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:36 am
- Location: Getting them boards like a wolf in the chicken pen.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
True. And I guess I’m not a typical college basketball fan but every time I’ve had tourney tickets I’ve watched both games of my session. Granted, half he time my team was one of the game but twice I went to Rupp when it was here and uk had to be elsewhere. But apples and oranges for sand Diego v Lexington on college basketball interest
Hold on, I'm trying to see if Jack London ever gets this fire built or not.
- DSafetyGuy
- The Dude
- Posts: 8843
- Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:29 pm
- Location: Behind the high school
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Well, I did say they try to and they protect the higher seeds first. They also have to do more important things like keep conference matchups from not being possible until the Elite Eight unless the conference gets nine teams in, in which case, they keep potential matchups limited to the Sweet Sixteen.sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:07 amHmm. I see that applied in some cases, such as #4 seed Gonzaga going only 400 miles. But, #4 seed Wichita State traveled 1,300 miles. #4 seed Arizona traveled 1,000 miles.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:27 pm And, (way upthread), yes, the tournament tries to "protect" the top four seeds in each regional by keeping them close to home. Frankly, there should have been a way to get both Michigan State and Michigan to play in Detroit.
But, enough on that. I really hope Shirley is ok. I’d be devastated if I was in his shoes.
Another factor I imagine for lots of fans is they have to decide if it is worth the expense of traveling on a couple days' notice if their team might lose in the first round. Some fans of higher-seeded teams probably also are waiting to go the Sweet Sixteen/Elite Eight games if their team advances (make a hotel reservation they can cancel and keep an eye on flights).
I went to a Sweet Sixteen once (free tickets, drove with a friend to Phoenix, stayed at his dad's place). The local alumni club had a pre-game gathering, so we didn't go to the arena until around the end of the first game (we didn't care to see UConn crush - looks online - Vanderbilt). I imagine many other fans only have an interest in watching their team in the first round, especially when they can go to a bar and enjoy the tournament as a whole.
“The running, the jumping... a celebration of life.”
- Nonlinear FC
- The Dude
- Posts: 11025
- Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:09 pm
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Salt in the Wound Pt. Infinity: UMBC's head coach (Odom) is like a slightly hungover version of Bennett. Who is Westworld-level handsome.
You can lead a horse to fish, but you can't fish out a horse.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tourna
It seems to me rather one dimensional of Bennett to be essentially producing an offense capable of executing one style of play, because as you mentioned: the reason you want to get out there and run v inferior opponents is because they’re never deep enough, and probably don’t have the legs to match at the start anyway.Joe K wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:43 amObviously UMBC shot really well in the second half, but the ultra slow-paced style of play UVA employs (dead last in tempo, per KenPom) is ideal for creating the conditions for surprising upsets in a single elimination format. Any team can and will have random hot stretches, but the more possessions in a game, the more likely that the better team will emerge on top. Also, a fast paced game would generally favor the deeper and more athletic team which, one would think would always be the 1-seed in a 1/16 matchup. Basically, as I saw pointed out by an NBA writer on Twitter last night, UVA plays, stylistically, like a 16 seed should. That surely helps them vs. teams like UNC and Duke but isn't great when you face a UMBC team that gets in the zone for a half.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
Noli Timere Messorem
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tourna
Yup. I don’t think Roy Williams is a great tactician by any stretch but his teams are usually tough outs in the tourney because they consistently push the pace and few teams have the horses to keep up with UNC talent for 40 minutes of up-tempo basketball.EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:42 amIt seems to me rather one dimensional of Bennett to be essentially producing an offense capable of executing one style of play, because as you mentioned: the reason you want to get out there and run v inferior opponents is because they’re never deep enough, and probably don’t have the legs to match at the start anyway.Joe K wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:43 amObviously UMBC shot really well in the second half, but the ultra slow-paced style of play UVA employs (dead last in tempo, per KenPom) is ideal for creating the conditions for surprising upsets in a single elimination format. Any team can and will have random hot stretches, but the more possessions in a game, the more likely that the better team will emerge on top. Also, a fast paced game would generally favor the deeper and more athletic team which, one would think would always be the 1-seed in a 1/16 matchup. Basically, as I saw pointed out by an NBA writer on Twitter last night, UVA plays, stylistically, like a 16 seed should. That surely helps them vs. teams like UNC and Duke but isn't great when you face a UMBC team that gets in the zone for a half.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tourna
It’s what made Calhoun’s UConn teams so tough to play, too. Well, that and they always seemed to have the best guard on the floor.Joe K wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:57 amYup. I don’t think Roy Williams is a great tactician by any stretch but his teams are usually tough outs in the tourney because they consistently push the pace and few teams have the horses to keep up with UNC talent for 40 minutes of up-tempo basketball.EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:42 amIt seems to me rather one dimensional of Bennett to be essentially producing an offense capable of executing one style of play, because as you mentioned: the reason you want to get out there and run v inferior opponents is because they’re never deep enough, and probably don’t have the legs to match at the start anyway.Joe K wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:43 amObviously UMBC shot really well in the second half, but the ultra slow-paced style of play UVA employs (dead last in tempo, per KenPom) is ideal for creating the conditions for surprising upsets in a single elimination format. Any team can and will have random hot stretches, but the more possessions in a game, the more likely that the better team will emerge on top. Also, a fast paced game would generally favor the deeper and more athletic team which, one would think would always be the 1-seed in a 1/16 matchup. Basically, as I saw pointed out by an NBA writer on Twitter last night, UVA plays, stylistically, like a 16 seed should. That surely helps them vs. teams like UNC and Duke but isn't great when you face a UMBC team that gets in the zone for a half.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
Noli Timere Messorem
- Nonlinear FC
- The Dude
- Posts: 11025
- Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:09 pm
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Just to hammer that point home, UMBC was absolutely gassed half way through the second half. Their star player had to sit out due to leg cramps.
I don't want to put too much on Bennett, because that takes away from a brilliant Retriever performance.
But, I mean, c'mon. That game was screaming for UVa to push the tempo.
I don't want to put too much on Bennett, because that takes away from a brilliant Retriever performance.
But, I mean, c'mon. That game was screaming for UVa to push the tempo.
You can lead a horse to fish, but you can't fish out a horse.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Carolina ain't the example. Sure if you get the pick of recruits you can run people off the floor. But it's a much tougher call if you generally have less or equal talent and athletism vs your league. Huggins generally gets it done, even then it's still more defense oriented than Roy and those results are good not necessarily great. Shaka smart? But yeah. You need to do both or at least have it in the bag.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Reading through this thread it someone seems inevitable in retrospect that UMBC would win.
Bandwagon fan of the 2023 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
- degenerasian
- The Dude
- Posts: 12381
- Joined: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:22 pm
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
On one side
The other sideA bettor at Las Vegas sportsbook operator CG Technology on Friday placed a $20,000 money-line parlay on three heavy favorites in the NCAA tournament for a chance to win a net $870.
The bet: North Carolina, Purdue and ... Virginia.
Kung Fu movies are like porn. There's 1 on 1, then 2 on 1, then a group scene..
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
You’re sort of missing my point. As I mentioned in my post, UVA’s slow paced style is a very good strategy against more athletic ACC teams like Duke and UNC. But playing that way makes it more likely to lose to a less talented underdog like UMBC. It’s the inverse to what drives me nuts about Ty Lue’s coaching against the Super Warriors. It’s a good strategy for the Cavs to play fast against their Eastern Conference opponents, but it’s suicidal to try to beat the Warriors in a game played in the 120s.HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:28 am Carolina ain't the example. Sure if you get the pick of recruits you can run people off the floor. But it's a much tougher call if you generally have less or equal talent and athletism vs your league. Huggins generally gets it done, even then it's still more defense oriented than Roy and those results are good not necessarily great. Shaka smart? But yeah. You need to do both or at least have it in the bag.
-
- The Dude
- Posts: 12036
- Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:07 pm
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Buffalo warming up from 3. And hitting 40 footers.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
What a winning shot for Loyola Chi. Balls.
I felt aswirl with warm secretions.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
I had Loyola in the Sweet 16.
Bandwagon fan of the 2023 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
So, as Loyola is celebrating on the TV screen, my wife walks in the room and says, "So, is March Madness finally over, now?"
"What a bunch of pedantic pricks." - sybian
- A_B
- The Dude
- Posts: 23560
- Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:36 am
- Location: Getting them boards like a wolf in the chicken pen.
Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Hold on, I'm trying to see if Jack London ever gets this fire built or not.