Canadian Politics Thread

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:27 pm

In Alberta, the UCP (Conservatives) and NDP (Progressives) both unveiled their platforms for the April 16th election.

And they could not be further apart in ideology. Albertans have a clear choice in this election.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politi ... e-released

for full documents.

NDP Platform

UCP Platform

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:15 pm

So Trudeau has now threatened a libel suit against Scheer for daring to question him

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer ... 3Dsharebar

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:23 pm

Clearly lil' Trudeau has surrounded his handsome self with nothing but yes persons.

And what specifically did Scheer say (outside the House) that is defamatory? Does our Feminist-In-Chief really think it's a good idea to let Scheer defend his insults in court?

What an idiot.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:35 pm

Scheer says, I dare you.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:48 am

Our new carbon tax has cranked up gas prices, and many, many people have claimed that it's some form of cash grab that will hurt consumers.

Well, our tone deaf government has answered the critics by choosing as one of its first publicity moves related to the carbon tax...

Giving $36 Million In Free Fridges To Canada's Largest Grocery Retailer

A company that had $800 million in profits last year and has been convicted of price fixing in recent years. Want to bet they donate to the Liberal party?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:02 am

The carbon tax is a cash grab that hurts everyone.

The amount of money it would actually take to make any difference is astronomical. They would have to develop a full program not just tax.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed May 01, 2019 5:44 am

Reporter makes Freedom of Information request for a document relating to the ongoing SNC-Lavalin scandal.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:06 pm

Story

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:45 pm

That story is everywhere up here.

Tommy Douglas is a Secular Saint in Canada

Doug Ford is not

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:52 am

How Many Bureaucrats Does It Take To Write a 277 Word Letter?

[+] spoiler: 20

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:48 am

Massive Cabinet Shuffle in Ontario

Premier Ford is in the sewer in terms of polling.

Rumours have it that the polls were bad enough, getting booed lustily at a convention was worse, having most of the crowd at a Special Olympics opening ceremony boo him was still worse, but the last straw was being booed by an otherwise deliriously happy crowd at the raptors' celebration was the last straw.

Guy ran on fiscal responsibility, and the cabinet just grew from 21 members to 28. A complete shitshow.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:21 am

I should think about moving. Canada just bankrupted Alberta.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:59 pm

degenerasian wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:21 am I should think about moving. Canada just bankrupted Alberta.

Funny. I just had a phone interview with a recruiter who called me about a job in Vancouver. (Of course, that will go up in smoke as soon as they think about the fact that I'm an unemployed 60 year-old.)

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:12 pm

Only The Best People - Ontario Style

Cabinet Minister (already recently demoted) goes on what was surely a drunken tirade against Senators' Owner at the Stones concert near Toronto.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:26 am

Federal election is two months away -campaigns will really get going after Labour Day.

Interesting read - if Trudeau's Liberals win a minority government, or if they lose, people around the world will be shocked that Canadians stopped loving handsome Justin. This article explains why so many people have done so.

Justin Trudeau: the rise and fall of a political brand

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:30 am

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:02 am

degenerasian wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:30 am

Other than handshakes, that's the same pose that all world leaders assume with each other. It's called "diplomacy"

And Ezra Levant is a sub-Breitbart level right wing provocateur. I advise all our American friends to imagine that they are reading a tweet from someone with the integrity of Jesse Watters.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:02 am

Pruitt wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:26 am Federal election is two months away -campaigns will really get going after Labour Day.

Interesting read - if Trudeau's Liberals win a minority government, or if they lose, people around the world will be shocked that Canadians stopped loving handsome Justin. This article explains why so many people have done so.

Justin Trudeau: the rise and fall of a political brand

Fuck, this sounds horribly familiar
"As things stand, Trudeau’s main opponent is the Conservative leader, Andrew Scheer. Scheer has vowed to roll back carbon taxes, opposed UN efforts to promote global cooperation on migration and wants to move Canada’s embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. He has also appointed a former board member of Rebel Media, a far-right website that has been described as Breitbart North, as his campaign manager."

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:46 am

So, it appears a lot of Canadiens would prefer to try out their own version of a Trump wannabe, instead of a guy they dislike.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:10 pm

sancarlos wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:46 am So, it appears a lot of Canadiens would prefer to try out their own version of a Trump wannabe, instead of a guy they dislike.

I wouldn't call Scheer a Trump wannabe. He's not that far off from Harper who was PM for 10 years running a right-wing agenda.
Canada, although not as polarized as the US, has always had a clear Conservative party. Perhaps their views become more controversial over time, but those views haven't changed.

I still think Trudeau is going to win. He has Quebec and Ontario.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:21 pm

degenerasian wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:10 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:46 am So, it appears a lot of Canadiens would prefer to try out their own version of a Trump wannabe, instead of a guy they dislike.
I wouldn't call Scheer a Trump wannabe. He's not that far off from Harper who was PM for 10 years running a right-wing agenda.
Canada, although not as polarized as the US, has always had a clear Conservative party. Perhaps their views become more controversial over time, but those views haven't changed.

I still think Trudeau is going to win. He has Quebec and Ontario.

Do you think Maxime bernier's anti-immigration onslaught will benefit Scheer by giving him the chance to look reasonable by comparison?

And I think your prediction is a good one - but this could be a minority government in which case the Conservatives will need to go back to picking a leader who is more appealing.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:23 pm

sancarlos wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:46 am So, it appears a lot of Canadiens would prefer to try out their own version of a Trump wannabe, instead of a guy they dislike.

Yeah, but... I have a feeling that the Conservative party will see that the anti-immigrant stuff is a non-starter in the major cities (Toronto and vancouver anyway - and since Scheer is unilingual, he won;t be carrying Montreal) and may tone things down.

I was going to say that you guys have no idea how much trump is hated up here, but I think you all have a pretty strong idea...

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:50 pm

Pruitt wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:21 pm
degenerasian wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:10 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:46 am So, it appears a lot of Canadiens would prefer to try out their own version of a Trump wannabe, instead of a guy they dislike.
I wouldn't call Scheer a Trump wannabe. He's not that far off from Harper who was PM for 10 years running a right-wing agenda.
Canada, although not as polarized as the US, has always had a clear Conservative party. Perhaps their views become more controversial over time, but those views haven't changed.

I still think Trudeau is going to win. He has Quebec and Ontario.
Do you think Maxime bernier's anti-immigration onslaught will benefit Scheer by giving him the chance to look reasonable by comparison?

And I think your prediction is a good one - but this could be a minority government in which case the Conservatives will need to go back to picking a leader who is more appealing.

I dont think do cause Bernier is polling at 3%

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:57 pm

degenerasian wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:50 pm
Pruitt wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:21 pm
degenerasian wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:10 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:46 am So, it appears a lot of Canadiens would prefer to try out their own version of a Trump wannabe, instead of a guy they dislike.
I wouldn't call Scheer a Trump wannabe. He's not that far off from Harper who was PM for 10 years running a right-wing agenda.
Canada, although not as polarized as the US, has always had a clear Conservative party. Perhaps their views become more controversial over time, but those views haven't changed.

I still think Trudeau is going to win. He has Quebec and Ontario.
Do you think Maxime bernier's anti-immigration onslaught will benefit Scheer by giving him the chance to look reasonable by comparison?

And I think your prediction is a good one - but this could be a minority government in which case the Conservatives will need to go back to picking a leader who is more appealing.
I dont think do cause Bernier is polling at 3%

Perhaps that will calm Scheer's people down?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:01 pm

Pruitt wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:57 pm
degenerasian wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:50 pm
Pruitt wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:21 pm
degenerasian wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:10 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:46 am So, it appears a lot of Canadiens would prefer to try out their own version of a Trump wannabe, instead of a guy they dislike.
I wouldn't call Scheer a Trump wannabe. He's not that far off from Harper who was PM for 10 years running a right-wing agenda.
Canada, although not as polarized as the US, has always had a clear Conservative party. Perhaps their views become more controversial over time, but those views haven't changed.

I still think Trudeau is going to win. He has Quebec and Ontario.
Do you think Maxime bernier's anti-immigration onslaught will benefit Scheer by giving him the chance to look reasonable by comparison?

And I think your prediction is a good one - but this could be a minority government in which case the Conservatives will need to go back to picking a leader who is more appealing.
I dont think do cause Bernier is polling at 3%
Perhaps that will calm Scheer's people down?

In what way?
Has Scheer even made a platform or is everyone just guessing.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:13 pm

We have an Federal Election Call. for Oct 21.

First shots fired.

The Greens are currently polling ahead of the NDP.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:31 pm

degenerasian wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:13 pm We have an Federal Election Call. for Oct 21.

First shots fired.

The Greens are currently polling ahead of the NDP.

You know, I was vaguely offended when hassan Mihnaj on "Patriot Act," strongly implied that the collapse of the NDP was due to the turban on Jagmeet Singh's head.

That may be a small part of the problem, but that party is such a mess that it has nominated candidates in less than half of the ridings across the country. The Greens are in place in 274 of the 338. It seems obvious that come the 22nd of October, there will be a new 3rd party in Canada.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:32 pm

Green Party's support doesn't translate into seats.

The 3rd party might be the Bloc!

For everyone here, here is the polltracker. Eric Grenier is our Nate Silver.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:35 pm

degenerasian wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:32 pm Green Party's support doesn't translate into seats.

The 3rd party might be the Bloc!

For everyone here, here is the polltracker. Eric Grenier is our Nate Silver.

Forgot about them. They were even the official opposition for a while.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:08 pm

Vote compass

Where do you align?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:09 pm

degenerasian wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:08 pm Vote compass

Where do you align?

Smack dab in the middle! I am the black dot.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:28 pm

I was up near NDP

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:21 pm

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:00 pm

Pretty amusing.

Creepy Trudeau

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:00 pm

Oh oh

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:19 pm

degenerasian wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:00 pm Oh oh

Might actually win him some votes out west!

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:28 pm

Pruitt wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:19 pm
degenerasian wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:00 pm Oh oh

Might actually win him some votes out west!

Ha no way.

Maybe in Quebec.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:41 pm

Wtf? I mean, Arabians are olive skinned, hardly different from Greeks or Sicilians. Do you guys not get Aladdin up there?

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:46 pm

Rex wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:41 pm Wtf? I mean, Arabians are olive skinned, hardly different from Greeks or Sicilians. Do you guys not get Aladdin up there?

That was one of my first thoughts, along with "Did anyone take a second to realize what was wrong because they were distracted by how hot the middle girl is?"

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:47 pm

Rex wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:41 pm Wtf? I mean, Arabians are olive skinned, hardly different from Greeks or Sicilians. Do you guys not get Aladdin up there?

I dunno - this is nothing compared to wearing blackface in the U.S. South.

Bad choice in stage makeup?