NFL Free Agency

Weatherfrog · Post by **Weatherfrog** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:56 pm

Matt Hasselbeck is now available. Takers?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:09 pm

Rush2112 wrote:Never been to the site actually.

Am I sad that Welker left? Yes. Am I disappointed that he signed with our most likely opponent for a return to the Super Bowl? Yes.

I also think that there is something behind the scene that was pushing him out the door before he even became a FA, and I am very trustworthy of the Patriot FO and their ability to know what a player's value is and if they are about to trend downwards.

They might not have the best drafting record for WR, but they sure as hell know how valuable a player is for their offense as compared to their value on other teams.

I don't know if Welker is getting gun shy after taking too many hits over the middle, his hands are wearing out from to many catches, or what, but he beginning to drop more passes than he should, especially at big points in games. If you have a chance to replace him with a much younger clone then why wouldn't you?

Grasspenis wrote: Aren't you pretty much judging Amendola entirely from what you are seeing on football-reference?

If you guarantee that he's a clone, hell yeah I take that. Butttt I don't think Amendola is anything special.

Test Ride the Sybian · Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:21 pm

Weatherfrog wrote:Matt Hasselbeck is now available. Takers?

I'll take him over the rest of the crap the Jets are holding on to.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:43 pm

Which is exactly what people said about Welker before he came to Foxboro.

Grasspenis wrote:If you guarantee that he's a clone, hell yeah I take that. Butttt I don't think Amendola is anything special.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:05 pm

My late thoughts on Welker and Amendola: I hated it. From top to bottom. Amendola doesn't do anything for me. And that contract they gave him? Meh.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:23 pm

It's a very team friendly contract. What's meh about it? He gets hurt, doesn't pan out, they aren't out big bucks or anything.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:36 pm

Showing the 5 year commitment is meh. (Even though years on NFL contracts don't mean anything.) It gives the impression that he's a long term acquisition. He isn't. I bet he doesn't make it past year 3. And if that's the case, just give Welker 3 years.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:19 pm

Amendola's contract is very low in guaranteed money. At the end of that contract he'll be a year older then Welker is now.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:27 pm

Per Pro Football Talk/NBC Sports:
Amendola did get a $6 million signing bonus, and has $4 million worth of base salary guarantees (this year’s $2 million and $2 million of next year’s scheduled $3 million base).

He also has base salaries of $4 million, $5 million and $6 million in 2015 through 2017.

The deal also includes per-game roster bonuses of $31,250 in each of the five years of the deal. If he plays all 16, he’d make an extra $500,000 per year, for a total of $2.5 million.

The only problem is, Amendola’s played 16 games exactly once in four NFL seasons, and has missed 20 games the last two years, making the full balance of the deal as originally stated hard to imagine.

link

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:24 am

Correction then. He's playing 2 years then he's either released or the deal is renegotiated.

Why does the NFL even bother having contracts that players will never fulfill?

FredRomero · Post by **FredRomero** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:39 am

Johnnie wrote:Correction then. He's playing 2 years then he's either released or the deal is renegotiated.

Why does the NFL even bother having contracts that players will never fulfill?

They help owners make lots of money?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:45 am

Rush2112 wrote:Which is exactly what people said about Welker before he came to Foxboro.

Grasspenis wrote:If you guarantee that he's a clone, hell yeah I take that. Butttt I don't think Amendola is anything special.

When they called him an underrated playmaker?

But, yeah. By this logic, they need to draft a QB in the 6th.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:47 am

Chad Jackson is younger than Welker, sign him back.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:41 am

Grasspenis wrote:When they called him an underrated playmaker?

But, yeah. By this logic, they need to draft a QB in the 6th.

The Jets made Garrard sign a pledge that he would become an alcoholic and try to kiss a reporter on TV sometime after 2040.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:41 am

Weatherfrog wrote:Matt Hasselbeck is now available. Takers?

Pretty heavy rumors that he is coming to Indy to be AL's backup.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:50 am

and signed.

BSF21 wrote:Pretty heavy rumors that he is coming to Indy to be AL's backup.

kranepool · Post by **kranepool** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:01 pm

Ed Reed to Texans.

Post by **Sabo** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:10 am

Pacman Jones wrote on Twitter that he has re-signed with the Bengals for three years.

I think the Bengals are the only team that hasn't signed a player from another team.

kranepool · Post by **kranepool** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:40 am

Dallas hasn't done shit either.

testy boxcar · Post by **testy boxcar** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:12 am

ditto green bay

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:31 am

Unless Garrard had a team at his house, I think the Jets are on the list too.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:40 am

mister d wrote:Unless Garrard had a team at his house, I think the Jets are on the list too.

Jets picked up Mike Goodson.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:12 am

The Chicago papers are reporting that Brian Urlacher has given up on re-signing with the Bears.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:53 am

Steve of phpBB wrote:The Chicago papers are reporting that Brian Urlacher has given up on re-signing with the Bears.

He wanted two years, $12 million, but the Bears (who are pretty close to against the cap and have to deal with Cutler's free agency next year) gave him a one year, $2 million offer. I wouldn't rule out an eventual return, just because the free agency market is so soft.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:56 am

DSafetyGuy wrote:
Steve of phpBB wrote:The Chicago papers are reporting that Brian Urlacher has given up on re-signing with the Bears.
He wanted two years, $12 million, but the Bears (who are pretty close to against the cap and have to deal with Cutler's free agency next year) gave him a one year, $2 million offer. I wouldn't rule out an eventual return, just because the free agency market is so soft.

He sounded pretty pissed in the audio I heard this morning. Basically said "if I play for $2MM, it won't be for the Bears".

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:00 pm

That's explicitly what he said.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:02 pm

In that case, I wish him well in his quest to stay healthy.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:15 pm

They should sign a younger albeit more injury prone and less productive white replacement for a higher AAV.

SlimChristian · Post by **SlimChristian** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:18 pm

Pollard signs with TN.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:32 pm

New England does not play Tennessee : (

Post by **Sabo** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:18 pm

Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer said the Browns brought in the guy below for a visit but it's unlikely they'll sign him.

Post by **brian** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:37 pm

Yeah, Lions worked him out a month ago too. He's had a few tryouts with different teams. He's working with a big-time kicking coach. He might get a shot somewhere.

SlimChristian · Post by **SlimChristian** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:06 pm

Ravens sign Dumervil! Ozzie Newsome is a fucking genius.

The Burglar · Post by **The Burglar** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:29 pm

Sabo wrote:Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer said the Browns brought in the guy below for a visit but it's unlikely they'll sign him.

Is Wolfert still on the roster?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:22 am

SlimChristian wrote:Ravens sign Dumervil! Ozzie Newsome is a fucking genius.

So a paperwork SNAFU forced the Broncos to release him even after he decided to take a pay cut and he ends up with Baltimore because they were able to offer more than the pay cut he was agreeing to? Why didn't he just not agree to the pay cut in the first place? Good faith? Good business? That entire sequence played out weirdly.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:25 am

Johnnie wrote:Good faith? Good business?

Fucked up agent that may have got lucky?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:27 am

I guess. It just seems that if Dumervil wanted to stay with Denver he would have, dumbass agent or not though. To just jump to Baltimore like that says something else was there that gave him motive to leave.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:30 am

Elvis Kool does what Elvis Kool wants.

SlimChristian · Post by **SlimChristian** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:35 am

Scottie wrote:
Johnnie wrote:Good faith? Good business?
Fucked up agent that may have got lucky?

He fired the agent that fucked up.

SlimChristian · Post by **SlimChristian** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:43 am

Johnnie wrote:I guess. It just seems that if Dumervil wanted to stay with Denver he would have, dumbass agent or not though. To just jump to Baltimore like that says something else was there that gave him motive to leave.

The contract they offered him after they released him wasn't the same deal he was supposed to sign before he was released. His release cost the Broncos 5 million in dead money. From what I've read/heard, the new deal the Broncos offered him, gave him a lot less $ in the second and third year of the deal than what THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPION BALTIMORE RAVENS were offering. He also has a relationship with THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPION BALTIMORE RAVENS' LB coach, Wink Martindale. Apparently, Harbaugh and Suggs were also giving him a hard sell on coming here. He's a great upgrade over Kruger, and his cap hit for next season is about 2.4 million.

Now, if Ozzie can rebuild the defensive backfield and ILB crew and get another WR. We should be fine.