Miami Condo

[Giff]

I have no idea where in Miami GPJ lives, but would like to hear he's OK.

[mister d]

That video (not linking here) is terrifying. Its a mix of "how can that just happen" and being surprised it doesn't happen more often.

[mister d]

I have no idea where in Miami GPJ lives, but would like to hear he's OK.

If white pages is right, he's about 10 miles away.

[Giff]

OK good.

[Ryan]

Hope his dick is ok then

[Pruitt]

JFC!

How could anyone survive this?

[govmentchedda]

One kid did! Before I saw that video, I assumed way less of that building had actually fallen. How the fuck does that happen without a demo team?

[Rex]

He tweeted about some crap ass wide receiver a few hours ago so I think he's okay.

[mister d]

Every news update makes this sound worse and worse. Could end up the most deadly singular event in the US since the Vegas shooting in 2017 (60) or the Great White fire in 2003 (100).

[brian]

America is a third-world country in just about everything other than military spending.

[EnochRoot]

Every news update makes this sound worse and worse. Could end up the most deadly singular event in the US since the Vegas shooting in 2017 (60) or the Great White fire in 2003 (100).

One of my good friends lost his brother in the Station Nightclub fire. His brother had been living in RI (may have been MA), but he had recently taken his son and moved back to FL because of his wife’s heroin abuse. He was back in New England as part of an agreed-upon contingent with her family convening from around the country to confront her about her drug problem. He went to the concert because the phone rang (a friend with an extra). He never made it out alive. A ceiling beam fell on him and crushed his back. His brothers take solace in the fact he likely died instantly.

Though they do not like the fact his wife was awarded the settlement for his death, they did fight her for custody of her son and won. Last I knew she’s still a junkie somewhere in New England.

[EnochRoot]

America is a third-world country in just about everything other than military spending.

The thousand dollar question is how many other buildings in south Florida that were built in that same timeframe (building was erected in 1980) are going through similar deterioration. There was a paradigm shift in building codes and their enforcement after Hurricane Andrew (1991) taught us that buildings from that timeframe fared worse than buildings from previous generations.

[Gunpowder]

I have no idea where in Miami GPJ lives, but would like to hear he's OK.

If white pages is right, he's about 10 miles away.

That is correct. Damn they already got my address

[The Sybian]

I have no idea where in Miami GPJ lives, but would like to hear he's OK.

If white pages is right, he's about 10 miles away.

That is correct. Damn they already got my address

I've been looking up GPJ and Business Horse in the White Pages and coming up empty. I'm starting to think neither of those are your real name.

[Gunpowder]

I have no idea where in Miami GPJ lives, but would like to hear he's OK.

If white pages is right, he's about 10 miles away.

That is correct. Damn they already got my address

I've been looking up GPJ and Business Horse in the White Pages and coming up empty. I'm starting to think neither of those are your real name.

Ahhhh, yes - you should have looked for Gunpowder Horse.

[Steve of phpBB]

JFC!

How could anyone survive this?

Oh my god. I hadn't seen that.

Horrifying.

[mister d]

[P.D.X.]

They're getting the important things covered.

[tennbengal]

[Pruitt]

They're getting the important things covered.

In America, in the 21st Century. This probably was what life was like in Spain in the 50s or Hungary in the 60s or North korea today. Jesus Fucking Christ!

[brian]

They're getting the important things covered.

In America, in the 21st Century. This probably was what life was like in Spain in the 50s or Hungary in the 60s or North korea today. Jesus Fucking Christ!

For as much as Republicans rail against the "Chinese Community Party", they sure do like to appropriate their methods.

[Pruitt]

They're getting the important things covered.

In America, in the 21st Century. This probably was what life was like in Spain in the 50s or Hungary in the 60s or North korea today. Jesus Fucking Christ!

For as much as Republicans rail against the "Chinese Community Party", they sure do like to appropriate their methods.

They might as well start wearing armbands.

[rass]

[Johnnie]

Sounds like Venice without the charm.

[DaveInSeattle]

Life saved by being horny...

He wanted to head home to Champlain Towers. His girlfriend wanted him to stay. She may have saved his life.

Erick De Moura woke up at about 5:30 a.m. Thursday to use the bathroom. He was at his girlfriend’s house — a rare occurrence on a weeknight — and walked into the kitchen to get his phone.

That’s when he saw all the calls and text messages.

One text in particular stood out — it was from Rochelle, a doorman supervisor at his building on Collins Avenue in Surfside, Fla., asking if he was okay.

“Oh, my God, you’re alive,” Rochelle said to De Moura, 40, when she answered his call.

“What do you mean I’m alive?” he responded in a sleepy haze.

“The building collapsed,” she said.

[Baloney]

Lawyers settle for $997 million

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 42832.html

[HaulCitgo]

Id like to know where one gets $997 million in proceeds to payoff that settlement. No way a condo association has that kind of limits. Maybe adding together a bunch of individual units policies but probably not more than a million per would think. Says 135 units. Can you still sue a builder that long ago? City maybe? Prior engineers?

[Baloney]

The story breaks down who owes what.

[HaulCitgo]

Thanks. Learning something today. Cant even conceive of how a security company is liable. Biggest amount too. Failed to evacuate? Faulty alarms maybe.

Securitas USA, the security company that provided guard services, managed visitor access and operated safety systems at Champlain South, settled for the largest amount, in the neighborhood of $500 million.

[EnochRoot]

Thanks. Learning something today. Cant even conceive of how a security company is liable. Biggest amount too. Failed to evacuate? Faulty alarms maybe.

Securitas USA, the security company that provided guard services, managed visitor access and operated safety systems at Champlain South, settled for the largest amount, in the neighborhood of $500 million.

Probably because they were tasked with not only providing security to the residents, but also the building structure itself.

[tennbengal]

Thanks. Learning something today. Cant even conceive of how a security company is liable. Biggest amount too. Failed to evacuate? Faulty alarms maybe.

Securitas USA, the security company that provided guard services, managed visitor access and operated safety systems at Champlain South, settled for the largest amount, in the neighborhood of $500 million.

Probably because they were tasked with not only providing security to the residents, but also the building structure itself.

Re: the bolded - no fucking way. That's not what Securitas remotely has expertise in.

[tennbengal]

AH, here we go - I had to go to a second article. THIS is why Securitas kicked over $500 million...

The fire alarm was triggered seven full minutes before the tower fell, giving residents on any floor ample time to escape had they acted quickly. But no one interviewed by the Herald heard a siren warning them to evacuate the building. The alarm is not sounding in the background of videos and emergency calls from inside the tower at the time.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/specia ... rylink=cpy

[Nonlinear FC]

I might sign up for the podcast that pops up on those articles.

[EnochRoot]

Thanks. Learning something today. Cant even conceive of how a security company is liable. Biggest amount too. Failed to evacuate? Faulty alarms maybe.

Securitas USA, the security company that provided guard services, managed visitor access and operated safety systems at Champlain South, settled for the largest amount, in the neighborhood of $500 million.

Probably because they were tasked with not only providing security to the residents, but also the building structure itself.

Re: the bolded - no fucking way. That's not what Securitas remotely has expertise in.

I guess they don't, but a lot of companies specializing in security also include facilities mgmt in their profile. I mean, somebody was in charge of verifying the towers' integrity, right? I suppose I'm coming from the perspective of a company who views protecting its assets as a business critical functionality (data security).

They're just people, amirite?

[Baloney]

I might sign up for the podcast that pops up on those articles.

I've been watching this guy's videos on the collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0UtmbRAL9M

He also does a good job on the leaning Millennium Tower in San Francisco.

[Johnnie]

I might sign up for the podcast that pops up on those articles.

I've been watching this guy's videos on the collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0UtmbRAL9M

He also does a good job on the leaning Millennium Tower in San Francisco.

I hadn't heard about this. So I googled.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/le ... -rcna11389

Oh shit. I think in Pisa they corrected its situation by digging out the opposite side. I don't think that would fix this though.

[Gunpowder]

Thanks. Learning something today. Cant even conceive of how a security company is liable. Biggest amount too. Failed to evacuate? Faulty alarms maybe.

Securitas USA, the security company that provided guard services, managed visitor access and operated safety systems at Champlain South, settled for the largest amount, in the neighborhood of $500 million.

Probably because they were tasked with not only providing security to the residents, but also the building structure itself.

Re: the bolded - no fucking way. That's not what Securitas remotely has expertise in.

I guess they don't, but a lot of companies specializing in security also include facilities mgmt in their profile. I mean, somebody was in charge of verifying the towers' integrity, right? I suppose I'm coming from the perspective of a company who views protecting its assets as a business critical functionality (data security).

They're just people, amirite?

Why would a security guard firm be responsible for licensed civil engineering type work?

[EnochRoot]

Thanks. Learning something today. Cant even conceive of how a security company is liable. Biggest amount too. Failed to evacuate? Faulty alarms maybe.

Securitas USA, the security company that provided guard services, managed visitor access and operated safety systems at Champlain South, settled for the largest amount, in the neighborhood of $500 million.

Probably because they were tasked with not only providing security to the residents, but also the building structure itself.

Re: the bolded - no fucking way. That's not what Securitas remotely has expertise in.

I guess they don't, but a lot of companies specializing in security also include facilities mgmt in their profile. I mean, somebody was in charge of verifying the towers' integrity, right? I suppose I'm coming from the perspective of a company who views protecting its assets as a business critical functionality (data security).

They're just people, amirite?

Why would a security guard firm be responsible for licensed civil engineering type work?

Granted, not all contracts are the same, they're more than a security guard firm.

A simple look at their website says that. As for civil engineering? That falls under building safety.

[tennbengal]

The answer is securitas fucked up re: the fire alarm being triggered seven minutes before collapse but not sounding. Alarms would be part of what a security company is very much responsible for .

[EnochRoot]

The answer is securitas fucked up re: the fire alarm being triggered seven minutes before collapse but not sounding. Alarms would be part of what a security company is very much responsible for .

The reality is more complicated than that. The judgement is held against Securitas though.