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The Sybian wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:25 pm Is Pence signaling in Morse Code with his right foot? Fuck is he doing?

And Pence has a daughter, so that means he actually fucked? Weird.
I dunno...

Is IVF frowned upon by his pastor?
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:27 pm
The Sybian wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:14 pm He rose to the top of the GOP primary heap with Fox working against him, and Fox turned on him after he left office. Trump is more powerful than Fox. I predicted years ago Trump would tear down the entire GOP if they stayed with him, and I'm amazed it hasn't happened yet. I think it's possible it could still happen. If the GOP, RW media and voters start moving towards DeSantis and away from Trump, he will try to destroy everyone that turns on him. He has never given a fuck about the GOP, just pays them lip service of gives them Judges and policies he doesn't care about if it gives him more personal power. Trump is the most vindictive person imaginable, and if people damage him, he will go all out to hit them back. I'm not expecting anything, but it's possible and I would love to watch it happen.

Spot on.

The combo of Trump and his acolytes and abortion is why we still control the Senate and why the House is going to be as close as it's ever been in terms of margin.

Keep it up Donald, we're all cheering you on!
So, is the enemy of my enemy now my friend or some shit? Would the GOP owners signal something to the Dems about getting him the fuck out of the way and helping put him in jail for real then? Or do the Dems just ignore it in hopes that he'll just crush that party even further?

I guess we'll say the Dems will do the most opposite Machiavellian thing possible.
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The Republican right wing was emboldened by the Trump years. He served their purposes, and even if he's yesterday's news, these assholes will not be moving back to the (relative)n centre any time soon).

At least, not until after the 2024 election.
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Johnnie wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:33 pmI guess we'll say the Dems will do the most opposite Machiavellian thing possible.
Lol. I’m old enough to remember when the Dems put money behind the extra-crazy right wingers in a few Republican primaries for governor, and got massive shit for it when those nutjobs were nominated.

And then the Dems won all the elections where they did that.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:03 pm
Johnnie wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:33 pmI guess we'll say the Dems will do the most opposite Machiavellian thing possible.
Lol. I’m old enough to remember when the Dems put money behind the extra-crazy right wingers in a few Republican primaries for governor, and got massive shit for it when those nutjobs were nominated.

And then the Dems won all the elections where they did that.
I meant if faced with the behind the scenes scenario where the GOP gives them Trump on a platter, Game of Thrones style.
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Johnnie wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:10 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:03 pm
Johnnie wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:33 pmI guess we'll say the Dems will do the most opposite Machiavellian thing possible.
Lol. I’m old enough to remember when the Dems put money behind the extra-crazy right wingers in a few Republican primaries for governor, and got massive shit for it when those nutjobs were nominated.

And then the Dems won all the elections where they did that.
I meant if faced with the behind the scenes scenario where the GOP gives them Trump on a platter, Game of Thrones style.
They'd have to admit to a fuckton of complicity. That would require a modicum of humility.
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Nancy Pelosi decided to step aside today. Cool and all, but the slobbering over her on social media is a bit much.

She did have a good zinger though:

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No idea she's being mocked. Incredible.

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She got, uh, roasted over this photo.

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Jeeeez usss.

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Seems like pretty low bail for all that.
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"What a bunch of pedantic pricks." - sybian
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Not making fun of the situation - but when your father tries to pin blame on you for leaving the state during an epic freeze, it's clear that there are parenting issues at play.
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Yikes. Didn't think I could possibly feel empathy for that piece of shit.
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I still don't.
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Giff wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:21 amI still don't.
Nor do I.

Save the empathy for the kid. Those are two ghastly parents.
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Pruitt IV wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:27 pm
Giff wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:21 amI still don't.
Nor do I.

Save the empathy for the kid. Those are two ghastly parents.
100%. 14 is old enough to understand what a horrible, phoney, POS her father is.
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Brandon having a decent day, what with Griner and the same sex marriage thing.

Now, constitutional scholars, tell me if this matters or if states can just make their own laws to prevent. I have never fully understood how the federal vs. state laws are applied.
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Long story short. If the Feds guarantee a right of protection, that becomes the floor of protected rights to the individual. It probably works best for criminal law, but it applies for civil too. If the Fed law says same-sex marriage between two people are legal and carries all rights therein (lower tax rates, spousal criminal privilege, property and inheritance rules), then a state law that leaves a lower protection than that floor can be challenged in court as legally invalid.
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Thanks for that, very helpful.
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But if we're talking about rights based on statute that Congress passes, that reasoning only applies if it's an area where Congress was granted power to legislate.

It's not 100 percent clear to me that the Constitution grants Congress the authority to require one state to recognize a same-sex marriage entered into in another state. But perhaps the power derives from the Fourteenth Amendment, which allows Congress to enact laws preventing states from denying equal protection.

This is one reason why it might not be possible to "codify Roe." If the Supreme Court rules that Congress doesn't have constitutional authority to grant a right to abortion, that would limit what Congress could do in that area. The Supreme Court did something similar in striking down parts of the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

The Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution also theoretically could play into this, but apparently it has not been historically applied to require states to recognize marriages that are illegal in their state but legal where they took place. And it's not clear whether Congress has any say in how that clause is applied. The Supreme Court may have kept all that power to itself.
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Look at this hate filled piece of shit. Crying on the floor because a bill is being passed to protect people's right.

Literally CRYING.

Fuck her.

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I'll bet that she just sold a lot of copies of her book to her fans (who probably have trouble reading).

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Johnnie wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:03 pm Look at this hate filled piece of shit. Crying on the floor because a bill is being passed to protect people's right.

Literally CRYING.

Fuck her.

Her own nephew hammers her.

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Madison Cawthorn Update

Sued by his lawyers and implicated in a crypto scam.

And he's still in Congress. 2023 will not be a good year for him...
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Pruitt IV wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:23 am Madison Cawthorn Update

Sued by his lawyers and implicated in a crypto scam.

And he's still in Congress. 2023 will not be a good year for him...
99% certain NC primaried his ass last spring. He’s out in a couple weeks.
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Very primaried. After that whole 'cocaine orgies' fiasco they went after him hard.
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God, imagine how much it would suck if your life peaked at 25. I almost feel bad for him.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:26 am God, imagine how much it would suck if your life peaked at 25. I almost feel bad for him.
Can’t believe how fast I forgot about him.
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The Sybian wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:17 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:26 am God, imagine how much it would suck if your life peaked at 25. I almost feel bad for him.
Can’t believe how fast I forgot about him.
God, me too. His name already sounds like a trivia answer.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:31 pm
The Sybian wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:17 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:26 am God, imagine how much it would suck if your life peaked at 25. I almost feel bad for him.
Can’t believe how fast I forgot about him.
God, me too. His name already sounds like a trivia answer.
Just the way the media designs it. It was wall to wall coverage of that dude when story after story came out. Then he loses his primary and nary a peep about him.
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To be fair, his life probably peaked way before 25 or Congress.
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mister d wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:40 pm To be fair, his life probably peaked way before 25 or Congress.
Oh, for sure. His ex wife is a knockout.
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Who Is Rep.-Elect George Santos? His Résumé May Be Largely Fiction.

Fascinating portrait of a compulsive liar from New York who successfully ran for the GOP and whose name isn't Trump.
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Pruitt IV wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:13 am Who Is Rep.-Elect George Santos? His Résumé May Be Largely Fiction.

Fascinating portrait of a compulsive liar from New York who successfully ran for the GOP and whose name isn't Trump.
Who did this guy run against? How in the hell did the Democrat's campaign not dig this information up?
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