I think 99.9 percent of coaches and 80 percent of ADs would rather have a 4 seed than a 5 seed in the new format. (Though I’ll grant the 5 seed will end up winning 95+ percent of the time since it’ll usually be facing a Group Of Five school.)
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Nope, not splitting, good point.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:00 pm the simple answer is a home playoff game
ETA: it's also the four highest-ranked conference champions. that's splitting hairs a bit, but it's not exclusive to the four power conferences
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So, if Colorado State finishes fourth in the national rankings, they get a top four seed, unless New Mexico or some other MWC team is ranked above them.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:00 pm the simple answer is a home playoff game
ETA: it's also the four highest-ranked conference champions. that's splitting hairs a bit, but it's not exclusive to the four power conferences
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They have to be a conference champion but in your scenario if they’re 4th they would get a bye.sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:43 pmSo, if Colorado State finishes fourth in the national rankings, they get a top four seed, unless New Mexico or some other MWC team is ranked above them.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:00 pm the simple answer is a home playoff game
ETA: it's also the four highest-ranked conference champions. that's splitting hairs a bit, but it's not exclusive to the four power conferences
ETA: The top four seeds all have to be conference champions to be clearer.
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right
but it's an easier compromise to make when it's the only round at home venues
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Guys, I hope you recognize that was a joke.
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It’s really not that ridiculous. In the last 20 years at least 2 G5 schools probably would have gotten byes (Boise State and Cincinnati). In fact freed from having to leave a P4 school out some G5 schools might get a better chance at a bye.
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And he better pass them all because he has another commitment in his life.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:01 pmThis guy is taking eight classes this semester to graduate this spring (although the post-grad degree is not his primary aim).
Hopefully, he gets to show some old friends what he can do in his first game (at tOSU).
And, hopefully, he'll get to show me in his second game (at Rutgers).
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That's great.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:24 pmAnd he better pass them all because he has another commitment in his life.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:01 pmThis guy is taking eight classes this semester to graduate this spring (although the post-grad degree is not his primary aim).
Hopefully, he gets to show some old friends what he can do in his first game (at tOSU).
And, hopefully, he'll get to show me in his second game (at Rutgers).
And I sense a swampup in the making.
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CMU doesn’t play Akron this year so don’t have to root for him to miss any kicks this year.
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I was worried no one would offer a scholarship, so I was almost more relieved than anything else. They brought him in with three different guys on the roster who kicked last year, so I expect he'll win the job.
I hope Akron improves. I would like for him to play in more winning games over his four active seasons than he watched his redshirt freshman year.
I hope Akron improves. I would like for him to play in more winning games over his four active seasons than he watched his redshirt freshman year.
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But kids love Bronco Mendenhall!
(I know Bronco is a pretty good coach and UNM is never going to be a power, but they really need to get the fuck away from hiring only guys that previously coached or played at UNM.)
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I was right about that USC-Texas game!rass wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:22 am Reggie Bush's Heisman to be "reinstated".
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File this under "knock me over with a feather" on a number of fronts.
https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports ... 40521.html
Janklin being accused of pressuring team doctors to clear injured players against their recommended treatment. Also tried to get a suicidal player booted from his scholarship to free up the spot. "The equivalent of cutting a player with an ACL injury before he is able to undergo surgery."
And just so this isn't a purely partisan shot at PSU, apparently MI had a very disturbing sign up in its locker room at some point that essentially said injured players and lazy players all look the same. No confirmation on the sign, but if true... gross.
ETA: Meh... Not sure how much I trust that reporting... Here's the sign, at least a version of it seen at Ravens HG.
https://mgoblog.com/sites/default/files ... k=DDHZQZCZ
https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports ... 40521.html
Janklin being accused of pressuring team doctors to clear injured players against their recommended treatment. Also tried to get a suicidal player booted from his scholarship to free up the spot. "The equivalent of cutting a player with an ACL injury before he is able to undergo surgery."
And just so this isn't a purely partisan shot at PSU, apparently MI had a very disturbing sign up in its locker room at some point that essentially said injured players and lazy players all look the same. No confirmation on the sign, but if true... gross.
ETA: Meh... Not sure how much I trust that reporting... Here's the sign, at least a version of it seen at Ravens HG.
https://mgoblog.com/sites/default/files ... k=DDHZQZCZ
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I'm sure folks saw, jury awarded that doc 5.25M in damages today.
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Wow. I just saw on The Athletic that the NCAA and DoJ have settled a case that now completely abolishes the transfer rules in college sports. No restrictions (I mean, other than eligibility to gain admission to said school).
There are so many lawsuits involving the NCAA right now that I hadn't really tracked this one.
Maybe I should've dropped this in the Things That Make You Feel Old thread... The college landscape is shifting so fast it's getting hard to keep up. To be clear, I like any rule that gives the players more power/freedom. Especially for the revenue sports, the field needs leveling. And it's happening.
There are so many lawsuits involving the NCAA right now that I hadn't really tracked this one.
Maybe I should've dropped this in the Things That Make You Feel Old thread... The college landscape is shifting so fast it's getting hard to keep up. To be clear, I like any rule that gives the players more power/freedom. Especially for the revenue sports, the field needs leveling. And it's happening.
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So, in effect, college athletes are on one-year contracts. I wonder if the next logical step is multi-year NIL contracts that tie the kids to one school for the period of the contract?
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Crazy stat (to me).
Next year there will be 136 teams in the FBS and 32 of them will have been in Conference USA at one point or another.
Next year there will be 136 teams in the FBS and 32 of them will have been in Conference USA at one point or another.
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I don't think there's any question that that is coming. And back-loaded NIL contract as well. The schools need to figure out some way to incentivize athletes to stay.
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Couldn’t schools offer four-year contracts?
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Yeah, that’s kinda what we’re saying.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:41 pmCouldn’t schools offer four-year contracts?
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they've always effectively been on one-year contracts. nothing was stopping an athlete from transferring previously. 10 years ago, schools could cancel an athlete's scholarship at the end of the year with no repercussion. we're not that far removed from four-year guaranteed scholarships. it's really staggering to realize how quickly this has moved (rightly) in athletes' favor.
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I disagree with your statement that "nothing was stopping." Athletes had to sit out a year at their new school. Their old school had to approve the transfer and release them. And many schools had rules against transferring within conference or to another school that might be on the schedule in the next few years. That's a lot of roadblocks! Oh, and you could only transfer once without losing a year of eligibility (unless you were a graduated senior with eligibility left ... and you agreed to study at a school that offers a program that your current school doesn't).Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:18 pmthey've always effectively been on one-year contracts. nothing was stopping an athlete from transferring previously. 10 years ago, schools could cancel an athlete's scholarship at the end of the year with no repercussion. we're not that far removed from four-year guaranteed scholarships. it's really staggering to realize how quickly this has moved (rightly) in athletes' favor.
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yeah, I'll admit that was an an exaggeration. players still had the right to transfer, the power dynamic was just so skewed against them.Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:36 amI disagree with your statement that "nothing was stopping." Athletes had to sit out a year at their new school. Their old school had to approve the transfer and release them. And many schools had rules against transferring within conference or to another school that might be on the schedule in the next few years. That's a lot of roadblocks! Oh, and you could only transfer once without losing a year of eligibility (unless you were a graduated senior with eligibility left ... and you agreed to study at a school that offers a program that your current school doesn't).Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:18 pmthey've always effectively been on one-year contracts. nothing was stopping an athlete from transferring previously. 10 years ago, schools could cancel an athlete's scholarship at the end of the year with no repercussion. we're not that far removed from four-year guaranteed scholarships. it's really staggering to realize how quickly this has moved (rightly) in athletes' favor.
however -- the one-year contract thing is and has always been true. the power is just now more with the players vs. it being with the schools.
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Basically, the historical contract has been a one-year contract with a team option for additional years. Like the reserve clause in baseball. Now it's a one-year contract with free agency.Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:37 amyeah, I'll admit that was an an exaggeration. players still had the right to transfer, the power dynamic was just so skewed against them.Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:36 amI disagree with your statement that "nothing was stopping." Athletes had to sit out a year at their new school. Their old school had to approve the transfer and release them. And many schools had rules against transferring within conference or to another school that might be on the schedule in the next few years. That's a lot of roadblocks! Oh, and you could only transfer once without losing a year of eligibility (unless you were a graduated senior with eligibility left ... and you agreed to study at a school that offers a program that your current school doesn't).Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:18 pmthey've always effectively been on one-year contracts. nothing was stopping an athlete from transferring previously. 10 years ago, schools could cancel an athlete's scholarship at the end of the year with no repercussion. we're not that far removed from four-year guaranteed scholarships. it's really staggering to realize how quickly this has moved (rightly) in athletes' favor.
however -- the one-year contract thing is and has always been true. the power is just now more with the players vs. it being with the schools.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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I was talking to my buddy who is a big time donor at MD and his head is spinning. He's becoming very.. I don't know if disillusioned is the right word, but he's very uneasy with where this is all headed.
I think a lot of folks who don't donate have the impression that there are unlimited funds for NIL and that's just not the case for the vast majority of these schools.
So, just to wrap this discussion up a bit, from this guy's perspective, you guys are spot on. He (and his fellow rich buddies) were already getting fatigued by these asks.. And if you are telling him there's almost NOTHING keeping a player from taking his money and leaving the next year for a better deal... That's not gonna fly.
I'm know I'm just reiterating what you guys said, but just offering confirmation that the folks being asked to pay NIL money aren't going to put up with the Wild West structure that currently exists.
I think a lot of folks who don't donate have the impression that there are unlimited funds for NIL and that's just not the case for the vast majority of these schools.
So, just to wrap this discussion up a bit, from this guy's perspective, you guys are spot on. He (and his fellow rich buddies) were already getting fatigued by these asks.. And if you are telling him there's almost NOTHING keeping a player from taking his money and leaving the next year for a better deal... That's not gonna fly.
I'm know I'm just reiterating what you guys said, but just offering confirmation that the folks being asked to pay NIL money aren't going to put up with the Wild West structure that currently exists.
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I'd say it's a four-year deal with three player options in years 2-4 vs. a four-year deal with three team options in years 2-4Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:01 am Basically, the historical contract has been a one-year contract with a team option for additional years. Like the reserve clause in baseball. Now it's a one-year contract with free agency.
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One of the beat writers for Syracuse basketball put out an article that goes more in-depth about NIL for their program to, in large part, just accumulate actual facts about NIL with on-record comments from collectives, coaches, and donors. Pretty good read.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:38 pmI was talking to my buddy who is a big time donor at MD and his head is spinning. He's becoming very.. I don't know if disillusioned is the right word, but he's very uneasy with where this is all headed.
I think a lot of folks who don't donate have the impression that there are unlimited funds for NIL and that's just not the case for the vast majority of these schools.
So, just to wrap this discussion up a bit, from this guy's perspective, you guys are spot on. He (and his fellow rich buddies) were already getting fatigued by these asks.. And if you are telling him there's almost NOTHING keeping a player from taking his money and leaving the next year for a better deal... That's not gonna fly.
I'm know I'm just reiterating what you guys said, but just offering confirmation that the folks being asked to pay NIL money aren't going to put up with the Wild West structure that currently exists.
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Probably a better thread I could put this in, but...
NCAA, who oversees drug testing and is usually much stricter than individual schools, as removed pot from it's list of banned substances.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/559175 ... -football/
NCAA, who oversees drug testing and is usually much stricter than individual schools, as removed pot from it's list of banned substances.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/559175 ... -football/
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Might have mentioned at some point that a college friend is the VP of PR and spokesperson for Michigan State so it’s always a little jarring and funny to see her name connected to stories like the one today about Sparty being sued by the company that created this quiz.
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Imagine going all the way to Ireland to get beaten by Georgia Tech.
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