The Old GOATS

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mister d wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:51 pm Devon Larratt and you can GTFO with any mentions of Levan Saginashvili!
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:52 pm We gonna have to tell WLU about pro wrestling, fellas?
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:52 pm We gonna have to tell WLU about pro wrestling, fellas?
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Efren Reyes was a great call.

Garry Kasparov is be willing to argue.

I think if we just went with individual positions, there’s a somewhat easier argument. Like if we went overall GOATs at CF, 3B, and C there wouldn’t be much argument against Mays, Schmidt, and Bench respectively. And for defensive GOATs at their positions, 3B and SS are Brooks and Ozzie.

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Blueliner - Clearly Orr

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Oh man, AB's not gonna like that post at all.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 3:57 pm Oh man, AB's not gonna like that post at all.
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Aleksandr Karelin.

When it comes to runners, are we looking at the GOAT purely objectively or in comparison with their peers? Because didn't Edwin Moses win every hurdling event for ten years? But I'd assume everyone running in the 400 meter hurdles in Paris last month is faster than he was then.
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Personally, I don't get involved much in these kinds of discussions. Because it is so hard to compare players of different eras. Guys like Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and Walter Johnson were so dominant in their eras. But, how would that translate if you had time travel and just dropped them into today's game? Not well, I'd presume.
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sancarlos wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:22 pm Personally, I don't get involved much in these kinds of discussions. Because it is so hard to compare players of different eras. Guys like Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and Walter Johnson were so dominant in their eras. But, how would that translate if you had time travel and just dropped them into today's game? Not well, I'd presume.
Yup, exactly why I posted that thing about WJ having the fastest fastball of his era at 91 mph.
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sancarlos wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:22 pm Personally, I don't get involved much in these kinds of discussions. Because it is so hard to compare players of different eras. Guys like Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and Walter Johnson were so dominant in their eras. But, how would that translate if you had time travel and just dropped them into today's game? Not well, I'd presume.
I think the point is to find athletes who were so dominant that that argument doesn't matter.
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:51 pmEarl Anthony
No. Square Earl isn't a shoo-in for best pro bowler of all time. You can make legitimate arguments for others, including Walter Ray Williams Jr., Pete Weber and the still-active Jason Belmonte. Belmo had a down year last year but if he returns to his typical greatness he'll easily be the PBA GOAT.
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Shirley wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:50 pm For track and field, you probably have to go by event and I don't think you can just pick the current world record holder. Like, I agree that Edwin Moses would have be the men's 400m hurdles GOAT even if modern dudes probably beat his times.

Usain Bolt is clearly the GOAT men's sprinter even if he's a bit after 2000.
If for example Barshim broke Sotomayor's record (and he was damn close), I'd still say Sotomayor. I'd have Carl Lewis over Powell.

The pole vaulter is a goat for sure tho. So is Jonathan Edwards.
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I know jack piss about Cricket but Don Bradman is a goat, right?

All I know is that I was once the Shahid Affridi of Fort Lauderdale, routinely hitting sixes.
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Gotta go with the OG GOAT David. They don’t even do the slingshot anymore.
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Rex wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:18 pm Gotta go with the OG GOAT David. They don’t even do the slingshot anymore.
Malcolm Gladwell would argue against.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 3:57 pm Oh man, AB's not gonna like that post at all.
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Shirley wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:30 pm
sancarlos wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:22 pm Personally, I don't get involved much in these kinds of discussions. Because it is so hard to compare players of different eras. Guys like Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and Walter Johnson were so dominant in their eras. But, how would that translate if you had time travel and just dropped them into today's game? Not well, I'd presume.
I think the point is to find athletes who were so dominant that that argument doesn't matter.
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Rex wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:18 pm Gotta go with the OG GOAT David. They don’t even do the slingshot anymore.
That’s the type of thinking we need in here.

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mister d wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:53 am Goalie is Hasek.
A_B wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:54 pmand henceforth I imagine I’ll be Old …we…t spot AB.
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