Presidential Election 2024

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:26 pm

And more fuckery. Seriously, man. What the fuck.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:35 pm

ppl who are so concerned that our elections are getting f'd with are sure eager to make sure it's easy for elections to get f'd with

GoodKarma · Post by **GoodKarma** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:31 pm

As someone has said before...every accusation is a confession

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:15 pm

degenerasian wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:25 pm
Gunpowder wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:42 am All states should really be splitting them according to popular vote (rounded off, of course), which would allow them to keep this arcane system while also making all states matter. Too rational I guess.
Would be gerrymandered to the extreme

I don't think you can gerrymander state borders. I just mean like, if you get 60% of California's popular vote, you get 60% of their electoral votes and so on.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:30 pm

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:53 pm

At a summit to fight anti-semitism, he proactively blames Jews if he loses. You can't make this shit up...

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:59 pm

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:52 pm

Jerloma wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:53 pm At a summit to fight anti-semitism, he proactively blames Jews if he loses. You can't make this shit up...

So if Trump loses, done idiot will violently attack Jews.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:12 pm

It's as American as apple pie. Blaming a group that barely scrapes 2 percent of the population is (potentially) to blame for him losing the election. Jews not being loyal to America is straight out of the bigoted playbook.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:49 pm

The real fuckery there is that the Naziest executive office candidate since the Fuhrer himself is grabbing 40% of the Jew vote.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:55 pm

JD Vance has managed to start a controversy with the western PA fries on a sandwich place.

Post by **brian** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:56 pm

rass wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:55 pm JD Vance has managed to start a controversy with the western PA fries on a sandwich place.

It’s almost like he tries to step in shit.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:58 pm

brian wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:56 pm
rass wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:55 pm JD Vance has managed to start a controversy with the western PA fries on a sandwich place.
It’s almost like he tries to step in shit.

The fact that he was so gracious in the aftermath tells me that it was probably the campaign’s fault. Who knows what story they’ll land on though.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:07 pm

From what I read the place got a ton of backlash after Harris went there and put a kibosh on any future political photo-ops.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:49 am

SNL is back. Which means 13 minute cold opens about politics.

Post by **Shirley** » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:18 am

By my count, exactly one of the characters is from a current cast member. That has to hurt.

Post by **brian** » Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:22 pm

Love that a gay dude is playing Vance though. That’ll make him crazy.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:55 pm

Shirley wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:18 am By my count, exactly one of the characters is from a current cast member. That has to hurt.

Isn't it 2? James Austin Johnson as Tr*mp and Bowen Yang as JD.

Also, I thought Mikey Day was Biden up until this skit. Of course Dana Carvey is just so damn good at everything, but WHAT THE EFF!

Post by **Shirley** » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:11 pm

Ah, I didn't realize the Trump guy is in the cast.

Post by **brian** » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:13 pm

Shirley wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:11 pm Ah, I didn't realize the Trump guy is in the cast.

Can’t blame you for thinking that bc he’s seldom in other sketches.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:02 pm

Anyone else here panicking or is it just me?

I fear the hurricane rules out NC and GA, and making Haitian immigrants salient costs PA. Will abortion be enough to overcome these things?

I need NLFC to come talk me off the ledge.

Post by **brian** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:35 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:02 pm Anyone else here panicking or is it just me?

I fear the hurricane rules out NC and GA, and making Haitian immigrants salient costs PA. Will abortion be enough to overcome these things?

I need NLFC to come talk me off the ledge.

Why would the federal gubmint/Biden-Harris actually helping GA/NC citizens hurt them?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:38 pm

brian wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:35 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:02 pm Anyone else here panicking or is it just me?

I fear the hurricane rules out NC and GA, and making Haitian immigrants salient costs PA. Will abortion be enough to overcome these things?

I need NLFC to come talk me off the ledge.
Why would the federal gubmint/Biden-Harris actually helping GA/NC citizens hurt them?

Because Trump and the GOP are lying and saying Biden is ignoring them, and that narrative gets out much better than the narrative that Biden and Harris are helping. A lot more people will hear and believe Trump saying Biden did nothing and Kemp can't get in touch with him than will hear Kemp saying Biden called him immediately and offered anything he needs.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:38 pm

Post by **brian** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:40 pm

The Sybian wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:38 pm
brian wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:35 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:02 pm Anyone else here panicking or is it just me?

I fear the hurricane rules out NC and GA, and making Haitian immigrants salient costs PA. Will abortion be enough to overcome these things?

I need NLFC to come talk me off the ledge.
Why would the federal gubmint/Biden-Harris actually helping GA/NC citizens hurt them?
Because Trump and the GOP are lying and saying Biden is ignoring them, and that narrative gets out much better than the narrative that Biden and Harris are helping. A lot more people will hear and believe Trump saying Biden did nothing and Kemp can't get in touch with him than will hear Kemp saying Biden called him immediately and offered anything he needs.

With Trump’s base sure but they’re never voting for Harris anyway. The potentially swayed medium-info voters might be.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:59 pm

brian wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:40 pm
The Sybian wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:38 pm
brian wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:35 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:02 pm Anyone else here panicking or is it just me?

I fear the hurricane rules out NC and GA, and making Haitian immigrants salient costs PA. Will abortion be enough to overcome these things?

I need NLFC to come talk me off the ledge.
Why would the federal gubmint/Biden-Harris actually helping GA/NC citizens hurt them?
Because Trump and the GOP are lying and saying Biden is ignoring them, and that narrative gets out much better than the narrative that Biden and Harris are helping. A lot more people will hear and believe Trump saying Biden did nothing and Kemp can't get in touch with him than will hear Kemp saying Biden called him immediately and offered anything he needs.
With Trump’s base sure but they’re never voting for Harris anyway. The potentially swayed medium-info voters might be.

Because after a month of living in a shitty situation, people will blame the government. And there will be several stories about routine fuckups and snafus that will get a lot more play in the weeks before the election.

Sandy hit NJ just a few days before the election, so people were still in the rallying together phase. That’ll be long over by November 5.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:32 pm

A very snarky "If you didn't lie so much you wouldn't need to be fact checked so often" would've been great there.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm

So, getting REALLY fucking specific about the storm and those impacted... And I feel shitty saying this, but not really...

The parts of NC that were really hammered by this storm are, in particular the counties... That's Trump country. So, if they don't absentee ballot, which I *think* they've been told is evil?

Yeah, this storm was not good for their GoTV.

I'm pretty sure there's something similar going on in Georgia.

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What is concerning is just the overall vibe. You've got wild shit going on in the ME, you've got the Longshore people striking, and you have this storm madness.

Chaos is Trump's ally. So... Need shit to calm down, generally.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:43 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:56 pm

I wish Walz had the clapback game of Secretary Pete.

He's great on the trail, but a little too buttoned up on stage.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:57 pm

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:02 pm

This VP debate isn't going well for Walz at all. I don't think this is a great format for him.

Mods are drawing a ton of false equivalencies too, but he's not very good at pointing that out.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:05 pm

Like, did he just say "I've been friends with school shooters"?

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:06 pm

The good news, guys... No one gives a shit about this.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:25 pm

Jerloma wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:05 pm Like, did he just say "I've been friends with school shooters"?

Yes, he meant to say "school shooting victims." He's flustered.

Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:06 pm The good news, guys... No one gives a shit about this.

Thank God

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:27 pm

Said his son witnessed a school shooting, then Vance was like "Tim, I'm so sorry I had no idea that your 17 year old son witnessed a school shooting."

Why do I think his son didn't witness a school shooting?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:31 pm

Jerloma wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:27 pm Said his son witnessed a school shooting, then Vance was like "Tim, I'm so sorry I had no idea that your 17 year old son witnessed a school shooting."

Why do I think his son didn't witness a school shooting?

Because Republicans have a way to coax you into believing they care and phrase sentences to get you thinking.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:31 pm

If Walz doesn't bring up Trump wanting Pence dead here....

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:35 pm

JUST SAY THE WORD "LIES," TIM.

HE DIDN'T GIVE OVER THE REIGNS OF POWER PEACEFULLY.

WHAT THE FUCK.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:36 am

After sleeping on it, I'm really, really bummed that we didn't get Walz getting righteously indignant at the "peaceful transfer of power" line and going full "Where the hell are the values you learned in the military? Honor, courage, and commitment, right Marine? And what was your oath is enlistment? 'I solemnly swear to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC', right? There was a single domestic threat on American soil that day. Donald Trump. And he egged on a mob of MAGA extremists...etc"

Like, fucking hell, why wasn't that in debate prep?