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Rex wrote:I don't think I've ever seen anything weirder than this. It's what I imagine Ali-Holmes was like, except you knew what was coming then.
As a boxing guy, I was thinking more like Randall "Tex" Cobb-Holmes.

Actually, Foreman-Frazier is an apt metaphor.
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tennbengal wrote:
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I am the opposite...sounds like I am missing something weirdly historic.

ETA: Altho the radio call on ESPN is pretty damn solid. Tommy Smith is one confused Leprachaun.
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mister d wrote:
Sabo wrote:I just want three really good games.
Has this become so bad it counts as good?
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It figures I have to be somewhere that's not a German pub while being stationed in Germany during an ass kicking like this. FML.
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Has there ever been a boxing match where a guy got knocked out in the 2nd. Then got knocked out again in the 3rd. Then got knocked out again in the 4th. Then had to finish the 12?
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Brazil needs to bring on Frank Reich on at halftime
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The Sybian wrote:Brazil needs to bring on Frank Reich on at halftime
That shit is not funny and is not appropriate at this time...
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Johnnie wrote:It figures I have to be somewhere that's not a German pub while being stationed in Germany during an ass kicking like this. FML.

they'll be partying all night.

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It may take a butt-whoppin like this to make Brazil reassess. They have played some ugly football over the last 8 years and become unlikable. They need to back to their samba ways. As someone said earlier, even Brazillian names aren't as fun. They need a better sounding striker than Fred.
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brian wrote:Losing 1-0 to Germany is looking pretty good now, huh all you negative assholes out there.

But then this also makes allowing so many great chances to Belgium look fuckawful and leads to Ghana perhaps being the tourney's 2nd best team.
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Well, we finally got that one team that stands out in this WC.
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Imagine what Qatar's semifinal is going to be like.
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half-dozen. wow.
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Julio Cesar has been man of the match for Brazil. This could easily be 9-0.
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I think the biggest win/loss is 10-0... I was on wikipedia earlier but my head was spinning... Pretty sure it was a Hungary win.
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And Brazil has to play again on Saturday.
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in case anybody was wondering, this kind of performance by brazil is known as capitulação.
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Rex wrote:And Brazil has to play again on Saturday.
Yeah, I was just talking to someone about that... What if it's Netherlands, it could be a total debacle, because what motivation would they have at that point? If it's ARG, it will be very weird, but the regional haterade should be enough to get the blood up.
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Rex wrote:And Brazil has to play again on Saturday.
Yeah, I was just talking to someone about that... What if it's Netherlands, it could be a total debacle, because what motivation would they have at that point? If it's ARG, it will be very weird, but the regional haterade should be enough to get the blood up.
Brazil-Holland in the third place game could be quite entertaining. Could see like a 6-4 scoreline in that one.
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Germany gets the extra point.
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I imagine Brazil will change as many players as possible, and the guys who come in will probably be wrapped too tight to play well, but it can't be worse than this. Better question is how many of these guys will continue on with the team after this? You can't just scrap everyone I guess.
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Nonlinear FC wrote:
Rex wrote:And Brazil has to play again on Saturday.
Yeah, I was just talking to someone about that... What if it's Netherlands, it could be a total debacle, because what motivation would they have at that point? If it's ARG, it will be very weird, but the regional haterade should be enough to get the blood up.
If brazil plays guys who havent played theyll have fun and try hard.
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Nonlinear FC wrote:
Rex wrote:And Brazil has to play again on Saturday.
Yeah, I was just talking to someone about that... What if it's Netherlands, it could be a total debacle, because what motivation would they have at that point? If it's ARG, it will be very weird, but the regional haterade should be enough to get the blood up.
If brazil plays guys who havent played theyll have fun and try hard.
and somebody's mom will have tiny bananas for the kids at half-time.
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Rex wrote:I imagine Brazil will change as many players as possible, and the guys who come in will probably be wrapped too tight to play well, but it can't be worse than this. Better question is how many of these guys will continue on with the team after this? You can't just scrap everyone I guess.
Brazil has to reassess. Their league plays a dirty style where everything is a foul. They have gotten used to playing this dirty.

It will take a few more world cups for brazil to feature again.

If this were cricket Germany would have declared.
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I don't think it's the players, though. In terms of going forward, they still have the most talented pool of players on the planet.

But they've been playing a bullshit, cynical, plodding shit style of soccer for at least 10 years now.

They need to a radical regression to the days of Zico and Socrates... Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho... Somewhere along the way they've lost samba soccer and the creativity and rhythm that made them so special.
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All Hail Timmy Howard. Seriously. I'm not saying Brazil's goalie is to blame for this game, far from it.

But Brazil is utterly disgrace today. We easily could've exited this tournament with a similar fate.
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From Bill Barnwell:

"A list of teams who allowed seven goals or more in a World Cup match since 1982: El Salvador, North Korea, Saudi Arabia … Brazil."
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Nonlinear FC wrote:I don't think it's the players, though. In terms of going forward, they still have the most talented pool of players on the planet.

But they've been playing a bullshit, cynical, plodding shit style of soccer for at least 10 years now.

They need to a radical regression to the days of Zico and Socrates... Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho... Somewhere along the way they've lost samba soccer and the creativity and rhythm that made them so special.
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ESPN sucks so bad. They're reading Dirk Nowitzki's tweets about the game. Who gives a fuck?
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I told my brother-in-law before the match Germany would win 2-0 and he agreed with a German win. It was highly entertaining to text back and forth as the game got out of hand. This Brazil team just hasn't been as fun to watch as past ones and was easy to root against.

Edited because has and hasn't aren't quite the same word...
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Must say, this really couldn't have happened to a more deserving team.

They were in trouble from the moment the ref refused to call fouls when they dove. But great God almighty, they looked like they quit at 2-0. That Kroos goal off the kickoff to make it 4-0...

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Nonlinear FC wrote:I don't think it's the players, though. In terms of going forward, they still have the most talented pool of players on the planet.

But they've been playing a bullshit, cynical, plodding shit style of soccer for at least 10 years now.

They need to a radical regression to the days of Zico and Socrates... Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho... Somewhere along the way they've lost samba soccer and the creativity and rhythm that made them so special.
I agree with everything except the statement about them having such a talented pool of players. If that was the case, then why are their best striker options Fred and Jo? Where are the other players like Neymar that they can plug in in case of injury? They don't exist.

If you look at the players getting taken to Europe, it's functional players like Ramirez, Willan, Luiz and even Oscar. None of these guys are Ronaldinho or Rivaldo or even Robinho. Like you said, for the past 10 plus years, Brazil has been sending less talented players to the big Euro leagues and it's affected their play. They either don't have the talent or are not developing the flair players like they used to. They've chosen winning over entertaining and that's to everyone's detriment.
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Nonlinear FC wrote:I don't think it's the players, though. In terms of going forward, they still have the most talented pool of players on the planet.

But they've been playing a bullshit, cynical, plodding shit style of soccer for at least 10 years now.

They need to a radical regression to the days of Zico and Socrates... Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho... Somewhere along the way they've lost samba soccer and the creativity and rhythm that made them so special.
I agree with everything except the statement about them having such a talented pool of players. If that was the case, then why are their best striker options Fred and Jo? Where are the other players like Neymar that they can plug in in case of injury? They don't exist.

If you look at the players getting taken to Europe, it's functional players like Ramirez, Willan, Luiz and even Oscar. None of these guys are Ronaldinho or Rivaldo or even Robinho. Like you said, for the past 10 plus years, Brazil has been sending less talented players to the big Euro leagues and it's affected their play. They either don't have the talent or are not developing the flair players like they used to. They've chosen winning over entertaining and that's to everyone's detriment.
This.

If you ever watch the Brazillian league, it's crap. 90 minutes of fouling and cheating.

Lucas Moura, Miranda, Felipe Luis, Coutinho, Marquinhos, Sandro, and Lucas Leiva were left behind.
Fred's playing in Brazil, Bernard is playing in Ukraine! Scolari still picked them.
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WTF just happened? I had the game on my iPod, but was working and not really paying attention. Saw the first goal, and lost connection to my server. Got back on and rebooted the Watch ESPN app, had to sign in with cable provider... caught Khedira' s goal. Wow, 2-0. Look up at the score, HOLY FUCK!

I listened to the second half on the radio driving home. Listening to JP Dellacamera was like going home again. As much as I love Sir Ian Darke, and I love him more than I love love, JP is still the voice of US soccer to me. JP and Ray were convinced that Ozil purposely shot wide at the end of the game when he had an easy goal? True?

So, it looks like Fred is not going to win any popularity contests. Why did they only take out their frustration on Fred?
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The Sybian wrote:WTF just happened? I had the game on my iPod, but was working and not really paying attention. Saw the first goal, and lost connection to my server. Got back on and rebooted the Watch ESPN app, had to sign in with cable provider... caught Khedira' s goal. Wow, 2-0. Look up at the score, HOLY FUCK!

I listened to the second half on the radio driving home. Listening to JP Dellacamera was like going home again. As much as I love Sir Ian Darke, and I love him more than I love love, JP is still the voice of US soccer to me. JP and Ray were convinced that Ozil purposely shot wide at the end of the game when he had an easy goal? True?

So, it looks like Fred is not going to win any popularity contests. Why did they only take out their frustration on Fred?
nah, that Ozil shot was a bit of an angle and Julio Cesar cut down the angle, he actually played quite well.
Why Fred?, he's sucked the entire tournament. Everyone else at least tried and had some moments this month.
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