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brian wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:46 pm
P.D.X. wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:28 pm
mister d wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:17 pm Ignoring the humanitarian aspects, why would you concede ("pick your battles") anything with an administration whose goal is to flood the zone and who will later use these concessions as precedent?
because D, they flood the zone with shit to get the opposition to reacting to everything and thus being spread thin and disorganized. if you react how your opponent wants you to, you're losing. concessions were inevitable when the election was lost. it's absolutely a good approach to pick battles (not to mention a lot easier to create messaging around as the opposition party)
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And I prefer blowjobs from supermodels but you can’t will what you want into reality as unfortunate as that might be.

The political reality is that the Dems don’t control any of the federal government so they have to be strategic not fighting 100 battles willy-nilly. USAID isn’t as important as at least a dozen other things Trump’s fascist goon squad is targeting right now.

Hopefully there’s some kind of plans being made to hit back. Maybe there isn’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t. But USAID is not the hill to die on.
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brian wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:52 pm But USAID is not the hill to die on.
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brian wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:52 pm And I prefer blowjobs from supermodels but you can’t will what you want into reality as unfortunate as that might be.

The political reality is that the Dems don’t control any of the federal government so they have to be strategic not fighting 100 battles willy-nilly. USAID isn’t as important as at least a dozen other things Trump’s fascist goon squad is targeting right now.

Hopefully there’s some kind of plans being made to hit back. Maybe there isn’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t. But USAID is not the hill to die on.
The fuck it isn't.

It's amazing how isolationist we can get in the face of a pissant fascist.
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EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:48 pm
brian wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:52 pm And I prefer blowjobs from supermodels but you can’t will what you want into reality as unfortunate as that might be.

The political reality is that the Dems don’t control any of the federal government so they have to be strategic not fighting 100 battles willy-nilly. USAID isn’t as important as at least a dozen other things Trump’s fascist goon squad is targeting right now.

Hopefully there’s some kind of plans being made to hit back. Maybe there isn’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t. But USAID is not the hill to die on.
The fuck it isn't.

It's amazing how isolationist we can get in the face of a pissant fascist.
I don’t think the issue is whether USAID is important, but whether it’s an issue that will get the public to oppose MAGA.

Unfortunately, the voters aren’t happy that we spend twenty-five percent of our budget on foreign aid. They think it should only be ten percent.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:46 am

Unfortunately, the voters aren’t happy that we spend twenty-five percent of our budget on foreign aid. They think it should only be ten percent.
Was it here I saw that stat before, but the truth is that we spend only about 1 percent on aid?
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A_B wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:50 am
Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:46 am

Unfortunately, the voters aren’t happy that we spend twenty-five percent of our budget on foreign aid. They think it should only be ten percent.
Was it here I saw that stat before, but the truth is that we spend only about 1 percent on aid?
That’s what it’s been since I’ve been paying taxes. There are pie charts when you pay taxes indicating the revenues and expenditures.

I think Steve was referencing the stupidity of TGF and his supporters.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:57 am
A_B wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:50 am
Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:46 am

Unfortunately, the voters aren’t happy that we spend twenty-five percent of our budget on foreign aid. They think it should only be ten percent.
Was it here I saw that stat before, but the truth is that we spend only about 1 percent on aid?
That’s what it’s been since I’ve been paying taxes. There are pie charts when you pay taxes indicating the revenues and expenditures.

I think Steve was referencing the stupidity of TGF and his supporters.
Yes. Though this particular stupidity goes way beyond MAGA.
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I'm absolutely in no way suggesting AB doesn't know shit.
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dunno... feel like that appeasement strategy hasn't worked well in the past..
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elflaco2 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:18 am dunno... feel like that appeasement strategy hasn't worked well in the past..
No, I'm fine with being a no shit knower. I see no reason I can't be appeased with the random chuckle and a general dismissiveness.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:46 amI don’t think the issue is whether USAID is important, but whether it’s an issue that will get the public to oppose MAGA.
And if there's one group who you should default to trusting on how to best court the public, its the Dems.
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I'm still avoiding the news as much as possible...but the bits I've seen of the Anti-Trans Hate Fest yesterday were some of the most disturbing things I've seen in a long time. And a pox on the parents that allowed their young children to be used as props as President DipShit signed his executive order against trans-athletes.
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Sorry DiS, but that's a demo that just isn't important enough for serious Dems to focus on. Pick your battles.
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mister d wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:51 am Sorry DiS, but that's a demo that just isn't important enough for serious Dems to focus on. Pick your battles.
Yeah. Not a hill to die on.
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ahh keyboard activism
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A_B wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:26 am
elflaco2 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:18 am dunno... feel like that appeasement strategy hasn't worked well in the past..
No, I'm fine with being a no shit knower. I see no reason I can't be appeased with the random chuckle and a general dismissiveness.
Always though you were more of a sensible guy.

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P.D.X. wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:57 am ahh keyboard activism
Love to be held more responsible for action than elected officials.
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EnochRoot wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:54 am
mister d wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:51 am Sorry DiS, but that's a demo that just isn't important enough for serious Dems to focus on. Pick your battles.
Yeah. Not a hill to die on.
Yeah, stupid me.

Wondering what exactly is a hill worth dying on...

That's enough for me...back to "Sticking To Sports"...

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P.D.X. wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:57 am ahh keyboard activism
I’d rather pick a side than pussyfoot on the sidelines.

I’ve called my senators.

What have you done?

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Well you've certainly earned the right to tell people that they're wrong in their hypothetical priorities in a system they have zero control over.
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P.D.X. wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:50 pm Well you've certainly earned the right to tell people that they're wrong in their hypothetical priorities in a system they have zero control over.
I’m never voting again until there’s a candidate who shits orange Skittles.
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mister d wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:38 am
Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:46 amI don’t think the issue is whether USAID is important, but whether it’s an issue that will get the public to oppose MAGA.
And if there's one group who you should default to trusting on how to best court the public, its the Dems.
If by "the public" you mean "political junkies who follow this stuff on Twitter and Bluesky and talk about it in sports forums," you're right.
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Back to more personal stuff… Elon and his fucking droogies are such scumbags. My federal employee daughter tells me that they’re receiving regular emails from them. At first, it was politely suggesting they resign. Now they’re getting increasingly insulting. Telling them that federal employees are worthless and soon to be replaced by AI. Telling them that if they don’t resign, they’ll all soon be fired. I just wanna throttle those assholes.
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sancarlos wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:52 pm Back to more personal stuff… Elon and his fucking droogies are such scumbags. My federal employee daughter tells me that they’re receiving regular emails from them. At first, it was politely suggesting they resign. Now they’re getting increasingly insulting. Telling them that federal employees are worthless and soon to be replaced by AI. Telling them that if they don’t resign, they’ll all soon be fired. I just wanna throttle those assholes.
That sucks...what a bunch of assholes...

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Trump to sign executive order forming DOJ-led task force to root out 'anti-Christian bias'
Trump said he would be launching a presidential commission on religious liberty and signing an executive order putting Attorney General Pam Bondi over the DOJ initiative, which he said he was creating to confront "weaponization" and "religious persecution" of Christians in the United States.

The mission of the task force will be to "immediately halt all forms of anti-Christian targeting and discrimination in the federal government," including at the Department of Justice, the FBI, the IRS and other agencies, Trump said in a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast.

"In addition, the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society, and to move heaven and earth to defend the rights of Christians and religious believers nationwide," he said.
This is the kind of shit that's going end up radicalizing me, and no I have no idea what a radicalized me looks like, but it will be totally rad I'm guessing.
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please let there be a hotline
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sancarlos wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:52 pm Back to more personal stuff… Elon and his fucking droogies are such scumbags. My federal employee daughter tells me that they’re receiving regular emails from them. At first, it was politely suggesting they resign. Now they’re getting increasingly insulting. Telling them that federal employees are worthless and soon to be replaced by AI. Telling them that if they don’t resign, they’ll all soon be fired. I just wanna throttle those assholes.
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Jerloma wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:33 pm Trump to sign executive order forming DOJ-led task force to root out 'anti-Christian bias'
Trump said he would be launching a presidential commission on religious liberty and signing an executive order putting Attorney General Pam Bondi over the DOJ initiative, which he said he was creating to confront "weaponization" and "religious persecution" of Christians in the United States.

The mission of the task force will be to "immediately halt all forms of anti-Christian targeting and discrimination in the federal government," including at the Department of Justice, the FBI, the IRS and other agencies, Trump said in a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast.

"In addition, the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society, and to move heaven and earth to defend the rights of Christians and religious believers nationwide," he said.
This is the kind of shit that's going end up radicalizing me, and no I have no idea what a radicalized me looks like, but it will be totally rad I'm guessing.
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Finally, someone willing to protect Christians in this country! At least they didn’t bill it as targeting Muslims, Jews and brown people religions. They still have to slightly veil shit. Or this is retribution for the IRS “targeting” churches that collect money for the GOP and RW political causes. If you maintain your tax free status as a religious mob-profit, you can push political goals. Enforcing the law on Christians breaking the law is weaponizing government now.
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brian wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:59 pm
P.D.X. wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:50 pm Well you've certainly earned the right to tell people that they're wrong in their hypothetical priorities in a system they have zero control over.
I’m never voting again until there’s a candidate who shits orange Skittles.
It’s not about me telling you you’re wrong. It’s you telling me I’m wrong for speaking up.

“Not the hill to die on” might be the biggest pussy comment I’ve ever heard in my life. Parroting it doesn’t help, either.

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Well, I can report that gutting the Dept of Ed is going to cost a shitload of private sector jobs, my wife's being one of them.
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I’m well-aware how bad killing USAID is I’m reiterating it’s nowhere near as bad as killing the Department of Education, the US Forest Service and a dozen plus other things these Nazi fucks want to axe.
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brian wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:44 pm I’m well-aware how bad killing USAID is I’m reiterating it’s nowhere near as bad as killing the Department of Education, the US Forest Service and a dozen plus other things these Nazi fucks want to axe.
Dog damn dude. Talk about a distinction without a difference.
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Speak up all you want but it doesn’t change any political realities one iota.
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The hits keep coming...

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brian wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:11 pm Speak up all you want but it doesn’t change any political realities one iota.
Bullshit.
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A_B wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:54 pmand henceforth I imagine I’ll be Old …we…t spot AB.
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I’m persuaded.
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