2024-2025 NHL Hockey season

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:52 pm

Nova Scotia 2, Sweden 0 in the first period.
My enthusiasm for this event has gone from "nice, they've fixed the all-star game" to "oh baby that's the good shit" real quick. Like right around McDavid-to-Crosby-to-McKinnon one minute in.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:23 pm

Canada looking really dominant…

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:58 pm

Sweden shifted the momentum for most of the 2nd period but that Crosby guy is not bad.

Post by **brian** » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:39 pm

I bet Sweden +210 just bc that’s where the value was. So I’ll take 3-3 with 10 mins left.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:43 pm

I wonder how long it would take Roberto Luongo to get ready to play?

Post by **brian** » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:53 pm

sancarlos wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:43 pm I wonder how long it would take Roberto Luongo to get ready to play?

Canucks need to be running Adin Hill out there instead. Been half a decade since Binnington played in a big game.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:54 pm

Its amazing how fast questionable picks are proven questionable

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:36 pm

One of Finland’s assist coaches (Mikko Manner?) has great personal style.

Post by **brian** » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:27 pm

That escalated quickly.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:18 pm

WTF? The San Francisco ABC affiliate is pre-empting the Canada/USA game for the Lunar New Year parade! Aaugh!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:20 pm

Impossible to root for the US against Canada right now without feeling a little gross.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:21 pm

sancarlos wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:18 pm WTF? The San Francisco ABC affiliate is pre-empting the Canada/USA game for the Lunar New Year parade! Aaugh!

It was lunar new year 2 weeks ago...

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:27 pm

What am I missing here?

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:28 pm

I just tuned in...with no sound...did both Tkachuk brothers get into fights at the start of the game?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:29 pm

You've missed 3 fights

Tkachuk vs Hagel
Tkachuk Jr vs Bennett
Miller vs Parekyo

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:30 pm

Yeah can someone explain this to me like a 5 year old?

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:30 pm

Old Time Hockey

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:30 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:28 pm I just tuned in...with no sound...did both Tkachuk brothers get into fights at the start of the game?

I thought the CBS Sports game tracker was glitching.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:31 pm

The GMs must be excited about this compared to a bull shit 15-12 all star game.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:36 pm

I love Brandon Hagel so much.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:40 pm

degenerasian wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:29 pm You've missed 3 fights

Tkachuk vs Hagel
Tkachuk Jr vs Bennett
Miller vs Parekyo

No...I caught them, but since I didn't have the sound on, I thought they kept showing replays of the first one!

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:05 pm

After seeing the USA jerseys my initial reaction is to say, 'GO CANADA!'

garyclark · Post by **garyclark** » Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:12 pm

This has been very fun to watch.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:44 am

If they do this 4 Nations (or more if they can have the Czechs and and a good team to replace Russia) thing instead of an All-Star game moving forward, this would be no doubt about it the best ASG in sports. That USA-Canada game was fun as hell, and this is coming from someone who basically only watches the New Years Day game and then the playoffs.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:43 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:44 am If they do this 4 Nations (or more if they can have the Czechs and and a good team to replace Russia) thing instead of an All-Star game moving forward, this would be no doubt about it the best ASG in sports. That USA-Canada game was fun as hell, and this is coming from someone who basically only watches the New Years Day game and then the playoffs.

They're not, it's going to be All-star game in odd years and Olympics/World Cup in even years.

The NHL wants 8 teams for the World Cup in February 2028. However, they didn't talk to the IIHF about it, so how are players going to be released mid-season from European teams? And which 8 teams? Is it an invitational for NHL players only? Qualifying? Made up teams?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:55 pm

degenerasian wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:43 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:44 am If they do this 4 Nations (or more if they can have the Czechs and and a good team to replace Russia) thing instead of an All-Star game moving forward, this would be no doubt about it the best ASG in sports. That USA-Canada game was fun as hell, and this is coming from someone who basically only watches the New Years Day game and then the playoffs.
They're not, it's going to be All-star game in odd years and Olympics/World Cup in even years.

The NHL wants 8 teams for the World Cup in February 2028. However, they didn't talk to the IIHF about it, so how are players going to be released mid-season from European teams? And which 8 teams? Is it an invitational for NHL players only? Qualifying? Made up teams?

Eight teams would be tough for all the reasons mentioned. Czechia and Germany make six. What to do about the Russia issue? And there is no obvious 8th team (Swiss?), especially if you don’t include the European leagues.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:00 pm

If it's an NHL tournament (i.e. World Cup), you need at least 23 NHL players from each country playing in the NHL. Finland barely makes that cut. I think there's one Finnish defenseman in the league who isn't on the Finland team. I don't see a World Cup being any more than six teams (add. Russia and Czechia).

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:14 pm

Finland also has three injured defensemen who would have made the team if they were healthy.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:08 pm

sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:14 pm Finland also has three injured defensemen who would have made the team if they were healthy.

Still cutting it very close. I don't even know if there are enough Czechs to fill a squad right now.

ETA - if quant hockey dot com is to be believed, there are only 4 Czech D in the league right now. 8 goalies and 16 forwards. If you can't get players from other leagues (and why would/how could) you for a non IIHF tournament, I don't see how this expands.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:14 pm

I think we all agree on that.

Post by **brian** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:17 pm

Fin indeed. We get a Canuck-Yankee rematch.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:32 pm

The US can rest some guys who might need it, with a good conscience, since the game is now meaningless for both sides.

Post by **brian** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:35 pm

sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:32 pm The US can rest some guys who might need it, with a good conscience, since the game is now meaningless for both sides.

If I’m not mistaken isn’t there only two “extra” spots for skaters? I mean yeah rest whoever but there’s not a lot of guys to rest.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:12 pm

brian wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:35 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:32 pm The US can rest some guys who might need it, with a good conscience, since the game is now meaningless for both sides.
If I’m not mistaken isn’t there only two “extra” spots for skaters? I mean yeah rest whoever but there’s not a lot of guys to rest.

True, but you can also “rest” to a lesser degree by limiting ice time.

Post by **brian** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:16 pm

sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:12 pm
brian wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:35 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:32 pm The US can rest some guys who might need it, with a good conscience, since the game is now meaningless for both sides.
If I’m not mistaken isn’t there only two “extra” spots for skaters? I mean yeah rest whoever but there’s not a lot of guys to rest.
True, but you can also “rest” to a lesser degree by limiting ice time.

Also true but I didn’t feel like they were loading anyone up too much though I admit I didn’t look at the stats.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:05 pm

govmentchedda wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:08 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:14 pm Finland also has three injured defensemen who would have made the team if they were healthy.
Still cutting it very close. I don't even know if there are enough Czechs to fill a squad right now.

ETA - if quant hockey dot com is to be believed, there are only 4 Czech D in the league right now. 8 goalies and 16 forwards. If you can't get players from other leagues (and why would/how could) you for a non IIHF tournament, I don't see how this expands.

The Velvet Divorce was clearly a mistake.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:05 pm

Add Quebec!

Only one Quebec born player on team canada, the 3rd goalie.

Post by **brian** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:19 pm

4 teams is fine. If Russia ever gets its shit together (not fucking likely) drop the Finns for Russia.

In 2027 they should run it back but play all the games in Stockholm and Helsinki. (Again, not likely but would be cool).

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:12 pm

degenerasian wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:05 pm Add Quebec!

Only one Quebec born player on team canada, the 3rd goalie.

Actually, how about
Quebec
Ontario
Canada (other)
Minnesota
Massachusetts (or Michigan)
USA (other)
Finland
Sweden

Post by **brian** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:21 pm

You guys are just drilling too far deep. Only three states have more than 30 players in the NHL (Minnesota (46), Michigan (36) and Massachusetts (33).

And as much as I love Paul Cotter no one wants to see him as as a third-liner in a major international tournament with the worlds eyes on it.

In the summer? Sure, maybe! Get nuts if there’s a demand but this 4 Nations thing is a real chance to reach out to people other than hockey nerds.