We Doing This Shit Again? (Trump Admin Meltdown II)

[sancarlos]

[Gunpowder]

You know, the danger is in how he words it. An Executive’s legitimate power. He’s sort of right, but if the Judge declares his action Unconstitutional, it’s not legitimate, but they will claim the Judge’s decision illegitimate and the base will all cry that Radical Liberal judges are trying to steal power.

Bigger question, what happens when Trump ignores the judges? Lisa Murkowski could have impeached, but she said Trump learned his lesson and would follow the law. How’s that working, Lisa?

Lincoln did it and we put him on a mountain

Funny though that this is suddenly a problem for people now after cheering it for the past four years

[The Sybian]

You know, the danger is in how he words it. An Executive’s legitimate power. He’s sort of right, but if the Judge declares his action Unconstitutional, it’s not legitimate, but they will claim the Judge’s decision illegitimate and the base will all cry that Radical Liberal judges are trying to steal power.

Bigger question, what happens when Trump ignores the judges? Lisa Murkowski could have impeached, but she said Trump learned his lesson and would follow the law. How’s that working, Lisa?

Lincoln did it and we put him on a mountain

Funny though that this is suddenly a problem for people now after cheering it for the past four years

When did Biden ever ignore the courts or declare they don’t have authority over the President? When did Biden ignore the Separation of Powers, the central tenet of our democracy, and cut off Congressionally appropriated funds or abolish agencies without Congressional approval after removing all inspector generals and oversite?

[Gunpowder]

I'm saying nobody seemed to have a problem with random state judges blocking a President until just now

[DaveInSeattle]

Posting this here to see if Johnnie's head explodes...

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[GoodKarma]

When did Biden ever ignore the courts or declare they don’t have authority over the President? When did Biden ignore the Separation of Powers, the central tenet of our democracy, and cut off Congressionally appropriated funds or abolish agencies without Congressional approval after removing all inspector generals and oversite?

I personally don't know but one of the right-wing claims (re: one of the student loan forgiveness moves) is that Biden said "I ignored the Supreme Court and did it anyway." Executive Orders have always been overreach, acting via fiat or whatever facist-y term you want to use when Democrats do them.

Because in today's world where context, nuance and just plain ability to think are dead, jaywalking and capital murder are both crimes and therefore equivalent in the eyes of many.

[The Sybian]

I'm saying nobody seemed to have a problem with random state judges blocking a President until just now

Ah, gotcha. I didn’t think you’d make the argument I thought you made. To be slightly pedantic, they aren’t state judges, but federal judges named by the state in which their district resides.

[Jerloma]

I can't with these fucking people.

[A_B]

This one is good

[degenerasian]

The Trump administration is expected to purchase $400 million worth of armored Tesla vehicles, according to a new State Department document detailing procurement for fiscal year 2025.
After reports circulated Wednesday night of the State Department's intent to purchase Tesla vehicles, the document was edited, at 9:12 p.m., and now says the federal contract is for $400 million worth of "armored electric vehicles," but the word "Tesla" was removed.



Canada may actually be able to defend the land with slapshots.

[A_B]

Just dig a two foot wide, one foot deep trench at the border. Then all you'll have to defend against is the Amazon Stealth Fighter Drones/ Package delivery system.

[Jerloma]

RFK confirmed and we've apparently reached the point where the moral conscience of the GOP is Mitch McConnell.

[Gunpowder]

I'm saying nobody seemed to have a problem with random state judges blocking a President until just now

Ah, gotcha. I didn’t think you’d make the argument I thought you made. To be slightly pedantic, they aren’t state judges, but federal judges named by the state in which their district resides.

Ok judges in random states (*cough* Texas)

[EnochRoot]

[mister d]

[sancarlos]

[Jerloma]

Threatening to prosecute a member of congress for informing people of their constitutional rights seems like a pitch worth swinging at.

Trump Border Czar Tom Homan is not backing down from his suggestion that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez could have broken the law by holding a webinar informing immigrants of their rights during encounters with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Homan said on Fox News last week when discussing the webinar, "Is that impeding our law enforcement efforts? And if so, what are we going to do about it? Is she crossing the line? So, I'm working with the Department of Justice and finding out. Where is that line that they cross? So, maybe AOC's gonna be in trouble now."

[mister d]

Better chance of Dem party leadership assisting.

[Steve of phpBB]

[tennbengal]

No, seriously, we are all gonna die. Well, a lot of us anyway. I am definitely the wrong age for the descent to the dark ages. People didn't live to 54 back then.

[TankFarm2023]

I mean, I was expecting all this fuckery, but every day, every news item, each and every line crossed, is still managing to make me feel positively bewildered. Worse yet, it simply won't stop.

The daily soundtrack has become the voices of Gira, Alan & Mimi (R.I.P.) of Low chanting, LUNACY! LUNACY! LUNACY!

[tennbengal]

I mean, I was expecting all this fuckery, but every day, every news item, each and every line crossed, is still managing to make me feel positively bewildered. Worse yet, it simply won't stop.

The daily soundtrack has become the voices of Gira, Alan & Mimi (R.I.P.) of Low chanting, LUNACY! LUNACY! LUNACY!

I think because some portion of them genuinely wants a lot of people to die. I think that is the literal aim of this.

[P.D.X.]

he's dismantling the health system because being blamed for covid deaths hurt his feelies, right?

[L-Jam3]

I mean, I was expecting all this fuckery, but every day, every news item, each and every line crossed, is still managing to make me feel positively bewildered. Worse yet, it simply won't stop.

The daily soundtrack has become the voices of Gira, Alan & Mimi (R.I.P.) of Low chanting, LUNACY! LUNACY! LUNACY!

I think because some portion of them genuinely wants a lot of people to die. I think that is the literal aim of this.

I don't even understand this line of reasoning. I can see attacking the EPA and the SEC for bottom-line reasons. Those agencies directly affect an oligarch's profits. But wanting people to die makes no sense to me. You need people to work in your factories and buy your shit. I get these guys don't give a shit about history, but if they knew about the Black Death, wages skyrocketed because there was a decreased supply of labor. It was the death knell of feudalism. Did they not think this through? Don't answer that.

[The Sybian]

I mean, I was expecting all this fuckery, but every day, every news item, each and every line crossed, is still managing to make me feel positively bewildered. Worse yet, it simply won't stop.

The daily soundtrack has become the voices of Gira, Alan & Mimi (R.I.P.) of Low chanting, LUNACY! LUNACY! LUNACY!

I think because some portion of them genuinely wants a lot of people to die. I think that is the literal aim of this.

I don't even understand this line of reasoning. I can see attacking the EPA and the SEC for bottom-line reasons. Those agencies directly affect an oligarch's profits. But wanting people to die makes no sense to me. You need people to work in your factories and buy your shit. I get these guys don't give a shit about history, but if they knew about the Black Death, wages skyrocketed because there was a decreased supply of labor. It was the death knell of feudalism. Did they not think this through? Don't answer that.

I think Trump is pissed at the WHO, CDC, NIH and all global health initiatives because "they made him look bad." He wanted to abolish all of them during COVID, because he didn't want them tracking the spread of COVID. He didn't are that people were dying, he cared that people dying looked bad for him. And he said frequently that if we stopped reporting COVID cases, the numbers would go down. I really don't think any of this is thought through, but the Emperor has no clothes and nobody is willing to tell him. And everyone who does gets fired and publicly humiliated.

ETA: Missed PDX's post which sums it up perfectly and in much fewer words.

[P.D.X.]

and if there's no 'official' spokesagency when the next pandemic hits, it'll just be 'fake news'

[The Sybian]

I mean, I was expecting all this fuckery, but every day, every news item, each and every line crossed, is still managing to make me feel positively bewildered. Worse yet, it simply won't stop.

The daily soundtrack has become the voices of Gira, Alan & Mimi (R.I.P.) of Low chanting, LUNACY! LUNACY! LUNACY!

Nothing that has happened should be a surprise, I mean it was published in Project 2025, even if Trump ran saying it wasn't his plan, he appointed all the authors into cabinet positions. The shock is how fucking fast it's all happening. It shouldn't be a surprise that none of the GOP in Congress are doing anything to prevent him from becoming a dictator because they all fucking let him run wild for 8 years, but I am still surprised. I would have thought we could get 3 GOP Senators to question his complete end-run on the checks and powers of their own fucking branch!

The other thing surprising me, which shouldn't, is the MAGA response to DOGE and Musk. They all think DOGE is doing amazing work uncovering hidden Liberal fraud. I'm not surprised they are too stupid to realize all of those expenses are public, they were bi-partisan and many were implemented under Trump. The shit I'm reading on social media (I know, I gotta stop!) is insane. First, the shit they are citing is on it's face insane, and sure enough when you look into "$100 million for condoms to Gaza that are used at bombs" it isn't remotely true. More like $50 million in condoms to a country in Africa with high HIV rates. If you disagree with spending the money there, fine, but it doesn't make it fraud. They are acting like Democrats stole the money and kept it. And I keep reading, "the fact that Dems are protesting DOGE is proof of their corruption." I never respond, even to family members or FB friends, because they are brainwashed. So sad to see so many cheer the destruction of Democracy, especially since they are still the biggest flag-wearing dipshits who claim to love the Constitution so much. Saw a great Youtube video a while back where a guy went to a Trump rally, interviewing all sorts of flag wearing "patriots" saying they support Trump being a dictator. Amazing how fucking stupid people are.

As bad as shit gets, I keep being thankful that it could be worse...I could be a high school civics teacher like Cerrano. Actually got certified to teach HS history about 15 years ago, but didn't pursue.

[sancarlos]

As bad as shit gets, I keep being thankful that it could be worse...I could be a high school civics teacher like Cerrano. Actually got certified to teach HS history about 15 years ago, but didn't pursue.

I assume that soon about half of the traditional history and civics curriculums will get forcibly deleted for being too “woke” and “dei-friendly”.

[sancarlos]

[degenerasian]

Hire me, I know some COBOL.

COBOL is still around, that's what Y2K fixed.

[tennbengal]

I mean, I was expecting all this fuckery, but every day, every news item, each and every line crossed, is still managing to make me feel positively bewildered. Worse yet, it simply won't stop.

The daily soundtrack has become the voices of Gira, Alan & Mimi (R.I.P.) of Low chanting, LUNACY! LUNACY! LUNACY!

I think because some portion of them genuinely wants a lot of people to die. I think that is the literal aim of this.

I don't even understand this line of reasoning. I can see attacking the EPA and the SEC for bottom-line reasons. Those agencies directly affect an oligarch's profits. But wanting people to die makes no sense to me. You need people to work in your factories and buy your shit. I get these guys don't give a shit about history, but if they knew about the Black Death, wages skyrocketed because there was a decreased supply of labor. It was the death knell of feudalism. Did they not think this through? Don't answer that.

So...there is a vein of Christian nationalists trying to bring about the end times that are all up in Project 2025 (and, frankly, on the Supreme Court). Literally, mass death fits their worldview. There are also a bunch of the billionaire class that think the world is too populated and think they can ride out a societal collapse and come out on the other side fine. A good number of them are in Trump's orbit as well. So, while it may seem non-sensical to do things likely to bring out much death and suffering, I think a good number of persons literally currently running the country want to bring about just that.

[P.D.X.]

which is also totally batshit to any fundamental understanding of economics. we currently have a top-heavy population with a bunch of boomers retiring and a shortage of workers/taxpayers to fuel the damn thing. sure, kill off the working class... hopefully your robots know how to harvest a cow for your big mac

[Jerloma]

My ex runs a program for underprivileged, limited English people providing ESL classes, career training and job placement that receives federal funding. This is the email she received from the Department of Education yesterday. It feels like it's right out of Project 2025.

Discrimination on the basis of race, color, or national origin is illegal and morally reprehensible. Accordingly, I write to clarify and reaffirm the nondiscrimination obligations of schools and other entities that receive federal financial assistance from the United States Department of Education (Department). This letter explains and reiterates existing legal requirements under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Equal Protection Clause of the United States Constitution, and other relevant authorities.

In recent years, American educational institutions have discriminated against students on the basis of race, including white and Asian students, many of whom come from disadvantaged backgrounds and low-income families. These institutions’ embrace of pervasive and repugnant race-based preferences and other forms of racial discrimination have emanated throughout every facet of academia.

Educational institutions have toxically indoctrinated students with the false premise that the United States is built upon “systemic and structural racism” and advanced discriminatory policies and practices. Proponents of these discriminatory practices have attempted to further justify the—particularly during the last four years—under the banner of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” (“DEI”), smuggling racial stereotypes and explicit race-consciousness into everyday training, programming, and discipline. But under any banner, discrimination on the basis of race, color, or national origin is, has been, and will continue to be illegal.

Although some programs may appear neutral on their face, a closer look reveals that they are, in fact, motivated by racial considerations.8 And race-based decision-making, no matter the form, remains impermissible. For example, a school may not use students’ personal essays, writing samples, participation in extracurriculars, or other cues as a means of determining or predicting a student’s race and favoring or disfavoring such students.

Relying on non-racial information as a proxy for race, and making decisions based on that information, violates the law. That is true whether the proxies are used to grant preferences on an individual basis or a systematic one. It would, for instance, be unlawful for an educational institution to eliminate standardized testing to achieve a desired racial balance or to increase racial diversity.

Other programs discriminate in less direct, but equally insidious, ways. DEI programs, for example, frequently preference certain racial groups and teach students that certain racial groups bear unique moral burdens that others do not. Such programs stigmatize students who belong to particular racial groups based on crude racial stereotypes. Consequently, they deny students the ability to participate fully in the life of a school.

The Department will no longer tolerate the overt and covert racial discrimination that has become widespread in this Nation’s educational institutions. The law is clear: treating students differently on the basis of race to achieve nebulous goals such as diversity, racial balancing, social justice, or equity is illegal under controlling Supreme Court precedent.

All students are entitled to a school environment free from discrimination. The Department is committed to ensuring those principles are a reality.

This letter provides notice of the Department’s existing interpretation of federal law. Additional legal guidance will follow in due course. The Department will vigorously enforce the law on equal terms as to all preschool, elementary, secondary, and postsecondary educational institutions, as well as state educational agencies, that receive financial assistance.

The Department intends to take appropriate measures to assess compliance with the applicable statutes and regulations based on the understanding embodied in this letter beginning no later than 14 days from today’s date, including antidiscrimination requirements that are a condition of receiving federal funding.

All educational institutions are advised to: (1) ensure that their policies and actions comply with existing civil rights law; (2) cease all efforts to circumvent prohibitions on the use of race by relying on proxies or other indirect means to accomplish such ends; and (3) cease all reliance on third-party contractors, clearinghouses, or aggregators that are being used by institutions in an effort to circumvent prohibited uses of race.

Institutions that fail to comply with federal civil rights law may, consistent with applicable law, face potential loss of federal funding. Anyone who believes that a covered entity has unlawfully discriminated may file a complaint with OCR. Information about filing a complaint with OCR, including a link to the online complaint form, is available here.

Thank you in advance for your commitment to providing our Nation’s students with an educational environment that is free of race, color, or national origin discrimination.

Sincerely,
/s/
Craig Trainor
Acting Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights
United States Department of Education

[Gunpowder]

First, the shit they are citing is on it's face insane, and sure enough when you look into "$100 million for condoms to Gaza that are used at bombs" it isn't remotely true. More like $50 million in condoms to a country in Africa with high HIV rates. If you disagree with spending the money there, fine, but it doesn't make it fraud.

People are saying the common taxpayer trope of "whatever, I don't want to pay for either one" as if they are going to get their 3 cents back, but this part should be a much bigger deal because it plainly shows that they have no fuckin' clue what they are doing.

I'm sure he would care if one of his engineers re-designed Tesla's glove compartments to specifically hold a pair of gloves.

[Steve of phpBB]

Hey, at least they got the price of eggs back down.

[Jerloma]

He's on my TV and he just said "I have the power to save millions of lives and end this war and I think it's going very well, but now I hear 'Oh, we <Zelensky> weren't invited to the table.' Well you've been there for three years, you should have never started it.

Then he said he doesn't understand how anyone still lives there because the place is in rubble.

I know I shouldn't be surprised but I refuse to normalize whatever fucking dimension we're in right now.

[degenerasian]

But hey he expanded IVF, he gets that vote over people who care about Ukraine.

[sancarlos]

[TankFarm2023]

He's on my TV and he just said "I have the power to save millions of lives and end this war and I think it's going very well, but now I hear 'Oh, we <Zelensky> weren't invited to the table.' Well you've been there for three years, you should have never started it.

Then he said he doesn't understand how anyone still lives there because the place is in rubble.

I know I shouldn't be surprised but I refuse to normalize whatever fucking dimension we're in right now.

I'll whisper or scream it once again, 'I know I shouldn't be surprised', BUT,....

Delusional as it may seem, I guess I just thought there'd be more of a unified FUCK OFF YOU LYING CUNT, everywhere, worldwide, on every major news platform, etc.

(Sorry, I mean, I'm just wound the fuck up, and of course this isn't in any way directed at Jerloma, nor anyone here)

BUT! Why the fucking shit christ is CNN having Stephen Miller on their network? Why are these shit heels being given a modicum of respect, when it's abundantly clear they deserve nothing but the gallows?





(I apologize, honestly, truly, for my despair, and I think you know that, probably like you, my heart is just broken by the cruelty and sadism of these bipedal cretins and their plans to rip what merits we had asunder and watch us all gag on the bile they've brewed for us)

[degenerasian]

The media is in the bag for Trump. All this gets ratings.

Look at the IVF headlines.

"Trump lowers IVF costs"
"Trump expands IVF"
"Trump makes IVF available for more people"

That shit is just lazy or biased reporting. The headlines make it like a fait accompli.

All Trump's executive order does it order a study to look at possible plans. Nothing may come of it. But good luck finding that.